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arthurhallam

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okay, so, many of the retakers are contiously talking about how they're not entitled,  & i don't want to generalise a very large group of people.

but if people keep talking about their rights as consumers (as many of you do) & about the so-called lies of the company, you really do come across as entitled little brats. maybe it's my leftist political outlook, but i can't help but think of you as the exact sort of people who'd vote for ron paul. 

you speak as though spending some money on a piece of creative fiction gives you the absolute right to determine its fate & if that does not confirm your expectations because of some half-assed marketing spiel, your human rights have in some way been breached.

give it a break. honestly, just stfu.

now, i'm not against the notion of a creative work being changed. i've stated on many occasions that it's great that games can be changed after the fact. don't accuse me of thinking otherwise. nor do i think the mass effect trilogy is a work of art. incidentally, i don't believe games are an art form. (not all narratives, not everything that is beautiful, not all works of creativity are considered works of art.)

but i'm not going to sit here & complain because the creative work did not match my expectations, irrespective of what a company told me beforehand. 

imagine a brattish kid gets promised something for christmas & doesn't get what they want— do they threaten to sue their parents? no, they throw out all the toys from their cots. which is exactly what many of you are doing. it's unbecoming of adults to behave in this way.

Modifié par arthurhallam, 22 mars 2012 - 01:25 .


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ima bump this just so it reaches the attention of the consumer rights goons

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suusuuu

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I should go.

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Could you please state your point without insulting anyone? That way people will at least consider it.

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arthurhallam

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if applies to you, then yes.

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Paragon Auducan

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They missold a piece of interactive media by lieing to our faces.

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Paragon Auducan wrote...

They missold a piece of interactive media by lieing to our faces.


no, they didn't. you built up a vision of what you were getting & it didn't meet your expectations. big deal.

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Oh look, a blanket assumption made by someone postulating for attention on the internet.

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Fame-KIllz

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Worst analogy ever.

Also, it's fine if you want to gobble up any old crap companies throw at you but we certainly won't.

Modifié par Fame-KIllz, 22 mars 2012 - 01:30 .


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alx119 wrote...

Could you please state your point without insulting anyone? That way people will at least consider it.


no. the people i'm describing are intolerable & deserve to be insulted. 

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arthurhallam wrote...

okay, so, many of the retakers are contiously talking about how they're not entitled,  & i don't want to generalise a very large group of people.

but if people keep talking about their rights as consumers (as many of you do) & about the so-called lies of the company, you really do come across as entitled little brats. maybe it's my leftist political outlook, but i can't help but think of you as the exact sort of people who'd vote for ron paul. 

you speak as though spending some money on a piece of creative fiction gives you the absolute right to determine its fate & if that does not confirm your expectations because of some half-assed marketing spiel, your human rights have in some way been breached.

give it a break. honestly, just stfu.

now, i'm not against the notion of a creative work being changed. i've stated on many occasions that it's great that games can be changed after the fact. don't accuse me of thinking otherwise. nor do i think the mass effect trilogy is a work of art. incidentally, i don't believe games are an art form. (not all narratives, not everything that is beautiful, not all works of creativity are considered works of art.)

but i'm not going to sit here & complain because the creative work did not match my expectations, irrespective of what a company told me beforehand. 

imagine a brattish kid gets promised something for christmas & doesn't get what they want— do they threaten to sue their parents? no, they throw out all the toys from their cots. which is exactly what many of you are doing. it's unbecoming of adults to behave in this way.




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Evil_medved

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Nice thread you have here. It will be a shame if someone will... derail it?

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Your post was very insulting and inflammatory. Please rectify this and I will read it again.

Respect is important.

::Edit:: There's a Kitty !! ^^

Modifié par Filby08, 22 mars 2012 - 01:29 .


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You know, you could at least put effort and thought into this... Seriously, I see the 'word' stfu and I just roll my eyes and leave. I don't even BOTHER to read your argument because it simply isn't worth reading if you can't be civil about it.

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 22 mars 2012 - 01:30 .


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Paragon Auducan

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They LITERALLY said no ABC endings, that's EXACTLY what we got.

They said it wouldn't leave any questions, it did. They also advertised freaking DLC in a CLIFFHANGER.

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Everyone who likes the endings insults those who don't.

Everyone who doesn't like the endings envies those who do.


#FACT

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arthurhallam wrote...

alx119 wrote...

Could you please state your point without insulting anyone? That way people will at least consider it.


no. the people i'm describing are intolerable & deserve to be insulted. 

My god you are such an understanding and agreeable person.

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Aesieru wrote...

Oh look, a blanket assumption made by someone postulating for attention on the internet.


not a blanket assumption. do a quick scan of the forum, you'll see countless posts from people complaining about their rights as a consumer

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suusuuu wrote...

I should go.


I need to go

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Wrex.

Shepard.

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''give it a break. honestly, just stfu.''

just stopped reading here.

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Paragon Auducan

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Only game registered is ME3.

We have our answer

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"give it a break. honestly, just stfu." --- ruins your entire case.

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LilyasAvalon

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Evil_medved wrote...

Nice thread you have here. It will be a shame if someone will... derail it?

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LOOK AT DA KITTY~! :wub:

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The accepted norm of consumer rights varies throughout the world, so it rather depends where you are. A lot of American based publications are using the entitled line, but consumer rights in the EU (and perhaps in other places) are actually quite extensive.

If it was a British company who had made the claims that Bioware did and then produced the product they did then it wouldn't surprise me if they ended up being censured by one regulator or another. I'm not saying that they should be, just that it wouldn't surprise me.

It is possible that those coming across as 'entitled' are doing so because were they live they are actually entitled.