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[xentar]

Of course not! Shepard's unavoidable death in the control and synthesis endings is one of my main concerns.

[Montana]

Having Shepard die in his/her moment of triumph, knowing the galaxy and it's community were safe would be the ultimate ending to the series imo.

I'm having trouble accepting the destruction of the relays.
The victory feels so empty with them gone.

[defenestrated]

cotheer wrote...

MissNet wrote...

As ONE of the options - yes, i'm fine with it.
As ONLY the option - no, it's just wrong.

I'd really like more people to understand this.

I agree with the sentiment but I'd also be fine if most endings led to Shepard's death, with a "Shep lives!" ending being harder to earn.

[Silhouett3]

Yes, even further: Shepard should die. Sacrifice is a strong theme of Mass Effect. The distinction between paragon and renegade mostly arranges who to sacrifice. Us or them? Civilians or soldiers? Information or people? Kill the terrorist or save the prisoners? Shepard has been deciding who to sacrifice for too long, too many people under his/her command already, necessarily died.

Why? Only to give Shepard another chance to fight the Reapers.
Time's up, I say.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I would really like it if there was not a static ending.

"Should" is not a concept needed in a game driven by choice.

Modifié par PKchu, 22 mars 2012 - 04:53 .

[Joykilledme]

Shepard dying would not be an issue if it was one or two outcomes.... not EVERY ending should have Shepard dying.

[Grasich]

Silhouett3 wrote...

Yes, even further: Shepard should die. Sacrifice is a strong theme of Mass Effect. The distinction between paragon and renegade mostly arranges who to sacrifice. Us or them? Civilians or soldiers? Information or people? Kill the terrorist or save the prisoners? Shepard has been deciding who to sacrifice for too long, too many people under his/her command already, necessarily died.

Why? Only to give Shepard another chance to fight the Reapers.
Time's up, I say.

Sure, in one ending that should be the case. But in all endings...? I would say choice and overcoming the impossible are at least as important as sacrifice in the series.

[aliengmr1]

If I knew for a while before the end that I had to beam up and press a button that instantly destroy the citadel and me, then I would be able to accept it. Wouldn't like it, but I would accept that given time.
I was going on the citadel to start the Crucible. That was my goal, dying wasn't.

[UKJackMan]

If i was a Bioware ME dev this is what I would take from the past week or so, Shepard lives play another 10 times and buy all DLC if Shepard dies game over.

[AllThatJazz]

I would be .. alright with it, yes. I can see the logic in the 'unstoppable force meets immovable object' argument. It wouldn't be ideal (I would like there to be one option where Shep can reunite with friends etc), but it wouldn't be a huge, not-going-to-buy-any-more-Bio-games thing for me either.

What I am not fine with is not knowing what the hell happened to anyone in the galaxy apart from Shep.

[billida]

i want him to have an option to survive. After all that he did, he deserves something good, something of his own.

[Billabong2011]

Yes.

[Verit]

I'm fine with Shepard dying in some of the endings, but I don't see he/she would have to die in all of them. They already had this is ME2, I don't see why ME3 shouldn't.

[cedgedc]

Silhouett3 wrote...

Yes, even further: Shepard should die. Sacrifice is a strong theme of Mass Effect. The distinction between paragon and renegade mostly arranges who to sacrifice. Us or them? Civilians or soldiers? Information or people? Kill the terrorist or save the prisoners? Shepard has been deciding who to sacrifice for too long, too many people under his/her command already, necessarily died.

Why? Only to give Shepard another chance to fight the Reapers.
Time's up, I say.

I agree. Trillions of people have fought, and sacrificed to try and accomplish what Shepard accomplished. Trillions upon trillions, beyond counting. Shepard accomplished what no one has ever done before, and has asked countless of people to die so she could have the chance. Her time has come.

What's more, look to the future. If they decide to make games taking place in the aftermath of ME3, which they are almost certain to do, Shepard will be a legendary figure. I suspect no one will truly know what happened to him/her.

Thus even the option where you live, is shrouded in mystery. I you will hear things akin to "Some say the Shepard died in the explosion, others that the hero died of wounds sustained in the battle shortly thereafter, but some persist that the Shepard survived, and went off to live out the rest of their days with those he/she held most dear."

Since whatever happens needs to respect everyone's choices etc, without denying any.

[MinatheBrat]

No.

Not permanently. If that was your ending, you should be able to play through again, improve, tweak, and get another Shepard lives ending like in ME2. Why change a good thing?

Modifié par MinatheBrat, 22 mars 2012 - 05:04 .

[prem0nition]

Shepard dying isn't the thing that has caused me to be upset and disappointed in Bioware (don't get me wrong, I'd be ecstatic if there was an ending where Shep could live and have that cold one on the beach with Garrus, but I can see why having Shep die at the end would be appealing to the writers and how it would complete the Shepard character arc.)

The two things that upset me are the severe nonsensical nature of the ending (all the plotholes, Deus Ex Machina, etc) and the extreme lack of closure given to the huge cast of characters/races that we've come to know and love. That latter one is probably the biggest of the two for me, especially as I know that Bioware can do it. They gave great epilogues for all your companions in Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal, and they expanded it even further in Dragon Age: Origins by adding epilogues to the different races/factions. In both games those epilogues would change depending on how you influenced your companions etc, so it's not like they can't... They just chose not to.

[cedgedc]

aliengmr1 wrote...

If I knew for a while before the end that I had to beam up and press a button that instantly destroy the citadel and me, then I would be able to accept it. Wouldn't like it, but I would accept that given time.
I was going on the citadel to start the Crucible. That was my goal, dying wasn't.

Your goal was made clear. Defeat the reapers at all costs. That's all there is to it!

[MinatheBrat]

-delete double post-

Modifié par MinatheBrat, 22 mars 2012 - 05:04 .

[Mad-Hamlet]

I would never pick 'A Hero Must Die' ending if I had the option. I would never add my voice in agreement to any discussion that advocated a position like that as the only viable one either.

As I said: The Path of The Hero is poison to creative writing.

[Omega Torsk]

Brahlis wrote...

No.

In a game like Mass Effect, there shouldn't be any of, "Shepard has to ___"

MB957 wrote...

well..as i recall in DAO...the sacrifice ending was an option..one of several.

so..I would like the option to sacrifice shep as well as save shep...gives me more fun and replayability

Yes to both of these points. I believe there should be an option for Shep to sacrifice him/herself and also an option to live to see the fall of the Reapers, facing a future with his/her LI.

A forced "bittersweet" ending wouldn't really sit well with me in a game like Mass Effect (hence, the current crisis we are in right now... only what we got was mostly just bitter). I want options! I know the hero returning home is cliche, but I want it! What was ever wrong with the ending where the hero conquers evil and lives to tell about it? I want that for at least one of my Shepards! He's been through a lot of crap and deserves a life with his LI instead of dying as a martyr!

[RUDAL]

I was expecting the "all is lost and everyone dies" ending of ME anyway, so yes I would be fine with Shepard dying

[DonutsDealer]

If BW forces Shepard's death then the rage about the endings will continue. They should give us the chance to be able to keep Shepard alive. Also, I find the "hero has to die" too cliche and just there for the sake of drama.

So in my opinion, we should have the option to have Shepard living or him sacrificing, but we NEED to have that choice like in DA:O, you could choose to die or live.

[Heathen Pride]

Death should be an option for martyr types, but not mandatory.

[Wattoes]

Depends on the way its done. Im fully ok with him dying. In the context of these awful endings though, its pretty weak.

[Balmung31]

Since there's already an ending with him living, they can EXPAND on that.

Don't see why Shepard having to die no matter what is even being argued at this point.