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[cedgedc]

Something tells me that the destruction of the Mass Relays is something that is integral to the overall direction that Bioware wants the universe to go in. As is the destruction of the citadel.

I don't think they made those decisions on a whim. I believe they have plans for future games which will revolve around these elements, and the new- very different- condition of the universe.

Thus, those of you hoping for Bioware to re-write the ending such that they don't get destroyed, are likely out of luck.

What we are going to get are epilogues. Answers to questions, and visions of what happened to our crew, friends, allies, and enemies. They're not calling martin sheen and seth green back into the studios and bringing back entire crews to redo the entirety of the ending.

Modifié par cedgedc, 22 mars 2012 - 05:15 .

[cedgedc]

Balmung31 wrote...

Since there's already an ending with him living, they can EXPAND on that.

Don't see why Shepard having to die no matter what is even being argued at this point.

Agreed. This is more or less what people can reasonably come to expect.

[Olive Oomph]

sure, if it's just a little every day

[Sunnie]

Actually, I would not be fine with Shepard being killed. I've played the game since ME1 first released becasue she is a strong hero, an impossible but very human hero who is able to do what nobody else in the galaxy can do. Not only do I expect the series to end on a high note, but Shepard herself deserves a chance at seeing the results of her accomplishments.

[megabug7]

I've said way back that I don't want Shepard (hereafter referred to as she) to die as not every hero HAS to die.

She gave her life so that others could live - is a cop out -

Why deprive her the experience in witnessing the aftermath of her actions - good or bad?
Are we (the gamer) Shepard too, and died with her, as we weren't able to witness the aftermath of her actions either?

Death is final, and a hero's embrace would be confined to memory in those who live.

If she has to die then give her a good send off and allow us to witness it.

If she lives -- a 'one breath' scene doesn't quite cut it -- to me that is cliffhanger material --. and implies Shepards' story isn't over, which I actually don't mind -- because I never wanted her story to end in the first place, but it does give some kind of (false) hope that the developers aren't done with Commander Shepard yet.

Modifié par megabug7, 22 mars 2012 - 05:30 .

[Scalpels]

If this was one of the possibilities and it was based on your previous decisions. Then I don't mind.

If this was the only option based on your previous decisions. Then no. I don't like it.

Considering that you can pull through the suicide mission with all squad members intact, ME3 should carry the theme. If you do everything and choose certain paths then you should have an "everyone lives and now here is how they are doing" ending. If you do little and choose other certain paths there should be an ending that shows the next cycle. Perhaps a Yahg finds Liara's time capsule.

[Heather Cline]

No I agree with what Sunnie said. Shepard living should be one of the possible endings and seeing the fruits of her labors. Being able to be with her LI and friends is also something she should have the option of doing as well.

[KeldorKatarn]

“Forgive the insubordination, but your boyfriend has an order for you...come back alive. It'd be an awfully empty galaxy without you….”

[megabug7]

Scalpels wrote...

If this was one of the possibilities and it was based on your previous decisions. Then I don't mind.

If this was the only option based on your previous decisions. Then no. I don't like it.

Considering that you can pull through the suicide mission with all squad members intact, ME3 should carry the theme. If you do everything and choose certain paths then you should have an "everyone lives and now here is how they are doing" ending. If you do little and choose other certain paths there should be an ending that shows the next cycle. Perhaps a Yahg finds Liara's time capsule.

Unfortunately the game is not set up that way that you could choose a different COA (Course Of Action) unless you collect minimal war assets which would affect the ending (which didn't really) but that would be boring.

ME2's suicide mission was genius as were the loyalty missions. It's a shame something similar couldn't have been achieved in ME3.

Aside from Tali and Garrus - the other sqaud members weren't loyal in the sense - would have been nice to do a story mission for each of them.

[jellobell]

cedgedc wrote...

Something tells me that the destruction of the Mass Relays is something that is integral to the overall direction that Bioware wants the universe to go in. As is the destruction of the citadel.

I don't think they made those decisions on a whim. I believe they have plans for future games which will revolve around these elements, and the new- very different- condition of the universe.

Except that Casey explicitly said that any future Mass Effect games were most likely going to take place before the ending. "Prequels", essentially.

[EsterCloat]

I'd really, really dislike being forced to die. I get the whole messiah archetype but my Shepard doesn't want to be that at all. He's got too much to live for.

So yeah, I'd probably be upset but at least if he died for a cause he believed in I could at least accept it. I wouldn't ask them to change it if it's done well.

[Hussain747715]

MB957 wrote...

well..as i recall in DAO...the sacrifice ending was an option..one of several.

so..I would like the option to sacrifice shep as well as save shep...gives me more fun and replayability

this

[Mushufasa1512]

Hmm as I have stated in other threads, I am perfectly fine with the heroic sacrifice story mechanic. I just do not feel it really fits in this particular story. If the devs decided shep HAS to die, and there is nothing you can do about it, I think an ending that makes sense would tide me over. Like if the game ended with Shep and Anderson dying together while watching the crucible do something other than space magic to defeat the reapers, I could have lived with that ending although I would have still been disappointed in the lack of ability to save yourself no matter what.

Modifié par Mushufasa1512, 22 mars 2012 - 05:50 .

[Twistedfaith]

Yes and no. - If people want a happy ending, after everything -and- have chosen the vast majority of 'correct' decision, I say.. "why the hell not?"..- People having done full completions of all 3 games, or even those that haven't should still be given the option. - And yes, because it was expected, I expected my Shep to die in an 'all guns blazing' sort of way. ~ In the end, I just want closure.

[legion999]

If it's mandatory no. If it depends on choices and EMS then yes.

[Dragoonlordz]

I want him and her dead, nothing more conclusive than death (with exception of Lazerus projects).

He or she has been present and the main lead for three games. Three is enough and as my Shepard appeared and rightly so he was tired of war and death. Let him or her rest in peace and give us a new protagonist for new title. Also I do think there is many new titles that could be developed in the ME universe with or without the relays, change in title but keep the lore.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 mars 2012 - 05:55 .

[cinderburster]

I'd be fine with Shepard dying if it made sense, but I don't think that should be the ONLY option. Hudson did promise different endings, after all.

[KeldorKatarn]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I want him and her dead, nothing more conclusive than death (with exception of Lazerus projects).

He or she has been present and the main lead for three games. Three is enough and as my Shepard appeared and rightly so he was tired of war and death. Let him or her rest in peace and give us a new protagonist for new title. Also I do think there is many new titles that could be developed in the ME universe with or without the relays, change in title but keep the lore.

You may not believe this, but we soldiers actually DO dream about retiring with our loved ones. We don't dream of glorious scrifice or suicide.

[Aslanasadi]

I don't mind to sacrifice one of my Shepards, because I chose the route in my previous games. But I want at least one of my Shepards to survive and have a chance to have a future with her LI and some of her crew/friends.

I don't expect a "Disney ending", even so I wouldn't mind that either, because it's a game and it's meant to entertain and not to frustrate me

But to be serious again I think Shepard faces a lot of losses during her journey. Most of the galaxy is a debris field. So what's so bad about a Shepard surviving with his or her LI in the end. Why not include a little light in the darkness. This little bit of hope in the end, would have wanted me to play the game over and over again.

I always think about DA:O...Do you remember how many choices we had? These were great endings. I loved it and even sacrificed one of my Wardens, because I chose this way. I want this option for my Shepards as well. I want the option to sacrifice Shepard, but also I want one option of Shepard surviving in the end. 

Modifié par Aslanasadi, 22 mars 2012 - 06:06 .

[Dragoonlordz]

KeldorKatarn wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I want him and her dead, nothing more conclusive than death (with exception of Lazerus projects).

He or she has been present and the main lead for three games. Three is enough and as my Shepard appeared and rightly so he was tired of war and death. Let him or her rest in peace and give us a new protagonist for new title. Also I do think there is many new titles that could be developed in the ME universe with or without the relays, change in title but keep the lore.

You may not believe this, but we soldiers actually DO dream about retiring with our loved ones. We don't dream of glorious scrifice or suicide.

It is not retirement if you want him alive so can appear in new games. Not unless the next game is merely Chess Effect with him and your LI sitting on a porch playing chess or the adventures of Shepard and the great trip to the local hardware store to buy some shelving. I want him gone because it will prevent many and I already seen some saying wish he lived because want to continue playing him in future, it's the Warden element all over again.

If they leave him alive the fans will want more of him in future and this has already been seen here people hoping to continue playing him in the future.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 mars 2012 - 06:10 .

[Rocktel]

It should be possible but it shouldn't be the only way.

I chose to sacrifice my warden because I like the heroic sacrifice better in DAO, but I'm glad there was another option.

Modifié par Rocktel, 22 mars 2012 - 06:09 .

[Viper371]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

If his sacrifice resulted in an ending better than the one we saw?

Personally, I think having Shepard die to save galactic civilization and stop the Reapers would've been a better way to have a "bittersweet" ending.

I think it worked well in Dragon Age:Origins with the Ultimate Sacrifice ending so I think if we had an ending that was otherwise happy with Shepard dying then that would be a good way to conclude it, especially since this is the last Mass Effect game with Commander Shepard.

I just don't see how else it could end. Honestly, I would have felt cheated had Shepard survived the final battle and simply rejoined his friends for a drink.  It had to be that way.
Not that I agree 100% with the ending, but I feel the bittersweet ending was the only way to go, considering all that has been said since ME1, and especially in ME3.

this is supposed to be the last ME game with Sheppard.  Sheppard's story is over.  Now, if there was a guy like Sheppard alive and kicking, would he permantly retire?  There's a new crisis out there, some leftovers of reaper indoctrination, some new Illusive Man reviving Cerberus... would Sheppard idly sit by enjoying a few girly drinks on a beach?  Would he let someone else pilot the Enterprise - I mean, the Normandy?   I don't think so.

So Sheppard has to sacrifice himself, imho.  But if there's a way to keep Sheppard alive while still making it great and not rosy-rosy like some Harlequin novel, I might be willing to change my mind

[lokiarchetype]

Yes, I fully expected it.

I couldn't imagine any other way Shepard would be retired by Bioware.

[cedgedc]

I love the irony of the fact that Shepard goes on many times to say that everyone needs to be willing to die to win the fight... but almost none of the shepards were actually willing to die xD

My Shepard met her end gloriously and without hesitation! Suck it, reapers!

[Dragoonlordz]

cedgedc wrote...

I love the irony of the fact that Shepard goes on many times to say that everyone needs to be willing to die to win the fight... but almost none of the shepards were actually willing to die xD

My Shepard met her end gloriously and without hesitation! Suck it, reapers!

lol nice one. Touché.