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[a.m.p]

As many have said self-sacrifice should definitely be among available options. What I don’t understand is why some say that wanting Shepard to survive = demanding sunshine and rainbows.

Not true. Shepard surviving does not make for a happy ending.

The series has always been about making choices and facing their consequences. You have to leave your crewmate on Virmire and watch them burn. You tell the fleet to save the council and watch people die.

If Shepard lives through this and wakes up there aren’t any sunshine and bunnies waiting. The world is in ruin. And they get to see it, see what they had done to it and learn to live with it. Always in doubt, if maybe there was something they could have done different that would save some more people.

That’s the bitter part. The sweet part should have been survivors who stick with you
through all of this.

Instead… well.

And after all Shepard is our point of view into the universe. The aftermath could have been shown through their eyes. Instead they just die – and we don’t see anything that happens after.

Modifié par a.m.p, 22 mars 2012 - 02:34 .

[TudorWolf]

As long as it's done tastefully it's fine. Can be great.

I thought Ultimate Sacrifice in DA:O was done well for example.

[iTofu]

I always knew that Shepard dying was a likely outcome. I prefer a conclusion that is logical and fits with the story and character of Shepard. Shepard dying can absolutely fit within those parameters.

Modifié par iTofu, 30 mars 2012 - 02:25 .

[czombie]

I don't have a problem with Shepard dying in different ways depending upon the choices you've made in the game. I have a problem with the remarkably similar ways that he dies in most of the endings and with the limited choice set given by the Starkid after professing his bogus philosophy.

[AlienSpaceBats]

I'd be OK with it and expect him/her to die but after dying once already it seems a bit stupid.

[Mims]

I want the option for Shepard to live at a consequence, and to die at a consequence [of...well, death.] I love the sacrifice ending in DAO, and its my 'canon' ending for that character. But in a game of options, you shouldn't be boxed into only playing the messiah role.

As it stands though, Shepard CAN live, so that's not really a problem. I'm not really bothered by the gasping for air sequence. Its everything else.

[I Soya I]

Not only would I be fine with it, I expect it.

[SCSI-Trib]

As an option I say I'm ok with it. But only as an option.
My ideal ending would have Shephard save the universe and live to fight another day.
Heck, that way you could have all the DLC you wanted to exted the franchise.
I did not spend hours upon hours playong ME1 twice through, saving the council, then importing charater into ME2 playing twice through, saving my entire crew, then importing that charater into ME3 just to end like this.

just saying

[Insomnia77]

No! I want her to be there for her blue kids when they grow up. From the moment I saw Liara on Therum, that was my ultimate goal.

[General Jack D. Ripper]

I have no problem with him dying. I just want more than one ending.

[Aiyie]

Brahlis wrote...

No.

In a game like Mass Effect, there shouldn't be any of, "Shepard has to ___"

speak for yourself.

my shep always had to die at the end.  it was just in her nature... noble sacrifice and all that.

but that is exactly why there always needed to be more endings with more variation than red/blue/green.

[Unlimited69x]

Shepard shouldn't HAVE to die. We the players always had a choice in what happens. If I decide in my playthrough he should die, that's because of my decisions or decisions have lead to him dying.

[Luder09]

In a game all about "choices", I would like it to be a choice whether Shep lives or dies, much like DA:O

[WindOverTuchanka]

Surprisingly, if Shepard absolutely HAS to die, then I'm fine with the current ending. After all, she'll be taking the only memory and evidence of Godchild with her to the grave, saving the Galaxy the pain of knowing this abomination ever existed. Sacrificing herself for the good cause, so to speak.

[Serpicos]

Shepard dying is not the issue, I went into the game thinking Shepard was probably going to die, hell I wasn't even sure if actually defeating the reapers was even going to be possible. I was OK with facing impossible odds and losing, as long it made sense, as long as we could fight.

I would have rather watched and let my fleet take its chances against the reaper fleet that accept any of the choices the Duex Ex child offered.

[nexesotaku]

not really, he already died once, dying twice in the same series is just overkill, literally.

[Nenomitrosis]

Yes. Too many soldiers died in that conflict, so I find it is fine if he sacrifice himself. If not it would be weird, killing reapers and walking as nothing happened

[Kalyppso]

I think Shepard should both be able to die, and even able to lose; but also able to live through victory and in any situation be granted a plausible / sensible ending cutscene.

[Aramintai]

I could live with Shep dying for the ultimate cause, but only if it makes sense. With current endings it doesn't. I would also like one option where Shepard can survive, even if it's the hardest thing to achieve in the game.

Modifié par Aramintai, 22 mars 2012 - 02:44 .

[Karrie788]

I don't mind her dying, as long as I have the option to keep her alive even if I have to work my ass off to do that.

[Nassegris]

If the ending had been great, I would certainly have been fine with Shepard dying in some of them and would likely allow some of my playthroughs to meet that end, some to meet another. I’m even fine with her dying, period, if it feels meaningful enough.

If it had felt epic, and heartfelt, and beautiful – if I’d seen the LI or the friends run towards her, fall to their knees and clutch her body in grief, while all around people cry, or celebrate, and dramatic music plays.

Maybe we could watch that friend cradle Shepard close, while we see flashes of those that were lost in the battle – the recognisable faces allowed one last fanfare, and those that survived, too, so that the end is truly bitter-sweet, not merely bitter like a cyanide pill.

Yea, I’m fine with Shepard dying, but it has to feel heroic. I’m not fine with her dying after committing genocide, after being trolled by space magic, and giving up her own personality in order to kowtow to a space baby’s unreasonable demands. As it is, my Shep didn’t go out as a hero – she died in her weakest moment. What a sorry end to my beautiful hero.

[P47 ace]

If I did not do enough and had to, I would be fine, rather not but would be fine.

[weltraumhamster89]

I wouldn't want MY main-Shep to die, no.

It should be an option though, like in DA:O or ME2.

[PeterG1]

Let me preface by saying that I am rocked (in a good way) by the current endings. That said (and after being a part of this community for over a week):

I think it's about choice. As many people in the community have said, the notion that Shepard has to "anything" based on our tens if not hundreds of hours of choices over the last three games are what seem to be the biggest letdown. 16 endings? Yea I may well play the ME franchise 16 times to see every 16 endings--that's gameplay right there. That's storytelling. As I believe Mr. Hudson said in a pre-release interview, if this is indeed the last of Shepard's story (if not the last of the ME universe) then why not allow it to end in 16 different ways?

[dsl08002]

No not really

but if it will be that case then it would be my choice and it will not be written in stone that he/she died as it is in ME3 ending.