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[pfellahX]

I'm OK with death... if you're fighting to save the galaxy against longer-than-long odds, losing squadmates or even Shepard him/herself can be part of a satisfying ending, if done right, if it represents true meaningful sacrifice and choice rather than just checking off a box on the plot. But "A - you die, universe is ambiguously screwed", "B - you die, universe is ambiguously screwed", "C - you die, universe is ambiguously screwed" isn't what most people had in mind.

[daigakuinsei]

It should be an option (probably the default), but living should be available with extra work.

[KrazyKiko]

I'd be OK if it were one of the options; similar to what ME2 had if the "Suicide Mission" lived up to its name. Having him die in all of the potential 'end points' is not something I'd like, but I didn't make the game...I just made him to look like me.

[Brawne]

Yes, and I want all Shep's friends who survived around the coffin crying, not taking off with Joker to some freaking paradise resort.

[SandSkorpion]

The only choices you have are the ones given to you by the writers or else the game would be completely open ended and ridiculous. It is an illusion of choice..the game is still on rails and will follow it's determined path. "Oh my Shepard says the hell with this fight. I'm gonna grab Liara and journey off to planet outside the relay network and live happily ever after...ROLL CREDITS."

Did you have a choice to return to Thessia? Did you have a choice to intervene in the Quarian/Geth conflict? Did you have a choice to visit the Citadel in the first place? (considering you could have teleconferenced all relevant plot points). Did you have a choice to go to London?...and so on, etc.

The point is, this story is predetermined. The gamer is given (not creating) choices to effect outcome within the writers vision.

[Durontan]

Shepard can die, should probably die but not with oh you super kid said I should do one of these 3 and I all of a sudden don't have my own thought pattern and I believe you 100%. I'll just go one of these 3 things then... yea... sarcasm is a ****.

[Xandurpein]

It's not about Shepard living or dying at all. I think it's just fine that he almost always die, but that there is a way to keep him alive if you get max war assets just like now. I just want things to make sense and I don't want him to die because of Space magic...

[Spectre Chris]

MB957 wrote...

well..as i recall in DAO...the sacrifice ending was an option..one of several.

so..I would like the option to sacrifice shep as well as save shep...gives me more fun and replayability

This. It should be one of many options. Or it should be a bad ending, where you didn't make the right choices, a la ME2 ending.

[jstme]

It is a possible outcome of fighting something that murdered unimaginable number of intelligent life form,yes. But it has to be worth it and make sense with the rest of the series.
Seeing what happened to squad members and the galaxy in general will be a must.
And of course pink version of Sheppard surviving for people who are really connected to the character should be considered because "why not it is video game and not going for Nobel prize in literature anyway so artistic freedom is not as important as large bunch of depressed (too) emotional fans".

[sOUZUKEN]

Yes. I am willing to die to save the galaxy. but Not die and blow up the mass relays presumably killing every one in every system, or isolating them in a reaper struck world. Hey who knows maybe raw salarian liver is a real delicacy?

[dfstone]

I don't care if Shepherd dies or not, I just want to know what the heck happened. That ending made no sense and didn't take any of the decisions I made in the 3 games into account. Its not Shepherd's fate that bothers me, its what did I accomplish?? Because the way the endings are now, I accomplished nothing and all those hundreds of hours I spent playing and replaying missions and importing saves meant nothing at all.

[Gorfimus]

I have no problems if Shepard dies in all endings. I just want endings that make more sense and have more closure.

[Dark Specie]

a.m.p wrote...
As many have said self-sacrifice should definitely be among available options. What I don’t understand is why some say that wanting Shepard to survive = demanding sunshine and rainbows.

Not true. Shepard surviving does not make for a happy ending.

If Shepard lives through this and wakes up there aren’t any sunshine and bunnies waiting. The world is in ruin. And they get to see it, see what they had done to it and learn to live with it. Always in doubt, if maybe there was something they could have done different that would save some more people.

That’s the bitter part. The sweet part should have been survivors who stick with you
through all of this.

Instead… well.

That's exactly what I'm always trying to say when that argument rears it's ugly head! Even if Shepard survives, the Earth (not to mention the rest of the galaxy) is in ruins, billions are dead and there's be years of rebuilding as well as fightning and mopping-up action (even if the husks died along with the Reapers, there's no gurantee that there won't be hordes of indoctorinated fanatics left after the Reaper's demise) and with the goverments of the Earth in ruins, Earth's bound to be as chaotic as the world of the Fallout games for the years to come. That's happy? Nah, wouldn't quite say so. But Shepard's be alive, his friends would still be around and he could find some happiness with his LI at least...

[Thorn Harvestar]

Spectre Chris wrote...

MB957 wrote...

well..as i recall in DAO...the sacrifice ending was an option..one of several.

so..I would like the option to sacrifice shep as well as save shep...gives me more fun and replayability

This. It should be one of many options. Or it should be a bad ending, where you didn't make the right choices, a la ME2 ending.

I would prefer it to be one of several options.

If it happens, it has to mean something. And there should be catharsis where we see our crew/LI express feelings over your fate. We got none of that

[Giantdeathrobot]

Yes, so long as it's one or two choices out of several and that the sacrifice means something. There should be both a possibility that s/he lives (really lives, none of that ''taking a gasp who knows where'' BS) and a possibility that s/he dies.

[RustyMcBlade]

Hell, let us choose if he lives or die. Screw that "u need to take this path B.S."

[DESTRAUDO]

Same.

SandSkorpion wrote...

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

If his sacrifice resulted in an ending better than the one we saw?

Personally, I think having Shepard die to save galactic civilization and stop the Reapers would've been a better way to have a "bittersweet" ending.

I think it worked well in Dragon Age:Origins with the Ultimate Sacrifice ending so I think if we had an ending that was otherwise happy with Shepard dying then that would be a good way to conclude it, especially since this is the last Mass Effect game with Commander Shepard.

My Shepard did die to save a galactic civilization and it's future by stopping the Reapers.

[Wildhide]

Brahlis wrote...

No.

In a game like Mass Effect, there shouldn't be any of, "Shepard has to ___"

That and they've killed him once already, then brought him back.  Which would cheapen the feel of it.  Combined with the fact we've already had 3 other sacrificial deaths of main characters in ME3 alone.

[Hunter_Wolf]

Brahlis wrote...

No.

In a game like Mass Effect, there shouldn't be any of, "Shepard has to ___"

Well he does kind of need to beat the game....


But I agree,  it should be an option. Killing Shepard in ME2 was possible and you had to be really full on Renegade to do it but people still did even though it required such relatively low effort. So it should be an option.

[webrakefornobody]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

DrDetective wrote...

I don't care if Shepard dies. I just want it to make some goddamn sense.

[Stalker]

Of course I would prefer him to live, but I wouldn't protest against his death either.
Both outcomes can close his story worthy, IF done correctly.

[carnage4u]

I am fine if all possible endings still have shepard dying.If the endings are well written and are done well it is ok.. If his/her sacrifice saves the galaxy, then ok. When I walked into that beam of light I assumed death on the other side.

[Unlimited69x]

And besides my choices. If Shepard HAD to die to make the endings better then so be it. Anything to make these endings better.

[Xarathos]

I don't believe Shepard's death should be beyond our control or ability to prevent, no. Shep can do whatever Shep wants, including live a 'normal' life if the opportunity presents itself. Heck, maybe a severe injury would force retirement? Then again, probably not... cybernetic prosthesis. Hm.

I DO believe that I could accept an ending in which Shepard dies, as long as it was more meaningful and provided more emotion than what we have now - something more in line with the other meaningful deaths in the game.

[Stigweird85]

I'm cool with Shep dying in the right circumstances.

What I don't want to happen is the messianic ending where he dies at the hands of the reapers only to come back to life and instantly kick reaper ass

Otherwise known as the matrix ending