Namiel wrote...
MB957 wrote...
well..as i recall in DAO...the sacrifice ending was an option..one of several.
so..I would like the option to sacrifice shep as well as save shep...gives me more fun and replayability
This^^^
Would you be fine with Shepard dying?
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Veggiesofmanycolors
, mars 22 2012 02:08
#126
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:10
#127
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:10
Sure. I'd be fine with a sacrificial ending for Shepard...as one possible ending.
#128
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:10
I would be OK with it as long as it makes sense and stays true to ME (which probably rules out a forced death of Shepard but anyway).
#129
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:10
DrDetective wrote...
I don't care if Shepard dies. I just want it to make some goddamn sense.
This, absolutely this
#130
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:10
I thought Shep was suppose to die given the dream foreshadowing and farewell speech before the end. So I accepted that long before I reached the end...
What I didn't expect is Shep's death is caused by gibberish philosophy lectures dominated by circular logic. No heroes deserves to die this way.
What I didn't expect is Shep's death is caused by gibberish philosophy lectures dominated by circular logic. No heroes deserves to die this way.
#131
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:12
Absolutely, a noble sacrifice to save the universe is well within Shepard's character.
#132
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:13
as an option yes
forced on me? NO
I want the option to save him and make good on his promises to his LI
forced on me? NO
I want the option to save him and make good on his promises to his LI
#133
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:14
Yes, in an ending that makes sense and is not riddled with plotholes.
You can;t win everything but atleast make it fit.
You can;t win everything but atleast make it fit.
#134
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:14
to those talking about DAO
Remember if you died in the final fight against the archdemon, you were somehow cured of death for the DLC.
Remember if you died in the final fight against the archdemon, you were somehow cured of death for the DLC.
#135
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:14
Nope, my shepard cant die, physically impossible, he's like chuck norris, but better. (Outdated chuck norris reference? Yes please.) Besides he made liara a promise to settle down and have little blue babies! Lol. I'd rather he live, thanks!
#136
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:15
I am fine w/ having Shepard die a heroic death provided that I can actually believe his reasons for jumping into the proverbial volcano. Genocide, enforced homogenization, etc. don't exactly read as choices that jive w/ the commander's decisions from the other two games (or the greater themes found w/in their narratives). The trilogy ends w/ ME3 so there really should have been a larger amount variation within its ultimate conclusion. Live? Die? Why not both?
#137
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:15
I want an option to murder my Shep and to make her be the ultimate living hero who stands after the battle on her own two feet. More options. Hero does not have to die to become a legend. Shepard is a legend already!
#138
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:15
^ thisdaigakuinsei wrote...
It should be an option (probably the default), but living should be available with extra work.
#139
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:15
Not a problem if it's ONE out of MANY different endings that we can basically CHOSE according to the decisions we take in ME3 (at the very least). Seeing Shepard die, or seeing the Relays blow up has never been the problem. The problem is not having enough different, distinguishable endings. I myself have three Shepards. One of them WOULD have actually been fitting very well within the Control ending that we do have. I'd still like to see more closure from some epilogue after that ending however, but basically that Shepard wouldn't mind dying at all, and he does have a LI (Miranda).
Another Shepard I have would probably fit with the Destroy ending, but right now we are not quite sure if that scene at the end implies that Shepard survives, in any case, if that Shepard in my game would actually die anyway from the Destroy ending then I wouldn't mind much. My "main" Shepard would NOT fit ANYWHERE in there and would have done everything until the end to debate against that entity and if anything would have let herself die there without choosing to do anything, watching the War Assets battling it out until the end, rather than being forced to chose anything and being forced to accept and submit.
I don't mind Shepard dying for a "better future" or even "without saving much" (as it is right now). I just want more endings, and them being distinguished from each others very clearly.
Another Shepard I have would probably fit with the Destroy ending, but right now we are not quite sure if that scene at the end implies that Shepard survives, in any case, if that Shepard in my game would actually die anyway from the Destroy ending then I wouldn't mind much. My "main" Shepard would NOT fit ANYWHERE in there and would have done everything until the end to debate against that entity and if anything would have let herself die there without choosing to do anything, watching the War Assets battling it out until the end, rather than being forced to chose anything and being forced to accept and submit.
I don't mind Shepard dying for a "better future" or even "without saving much" (as it is right now). I just want more endings, and them being distinguished from each others very clearly.
Modifié par Lyrandori, 22 mars 2012 - 03:17 .
#140
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:16
crimzontearz wrote...
as an option yes
forced on me? NO
I want the option to save him and make good on his promises to his LI
100% this ^^^
#141
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:18
I'm fine with Shep dying in some endings but there should be the option for him to live in others. I'm fine for there to be a negative consequence for choosing the shep live option in order for all thwe different endings to balance eachother with different rewards and consequences. Also if Shep lives i want to see more than just a silly easter egg of him taking a breath. Have him stumbling through the rubble to be re-united with friends/LI etc.
#142
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:18
I wouldn't even mind if Shepard died in all 700 endings, as long as those 700 endings made sense.
I personally don't want the endings scrapped and made anew, so I don't think the DA:O kind of finale is an option.
I personally don't want the endings scrapped and made anew, so I don't think the DA:O kind of finale is an option.
Modifié par AlexiusDAlex, 22 mars 2012 - 03:20 .
#143
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:21
I don't want Shepard to live after the Ending. The only purpose he has and the only reason in life is to defeat the reapers. He should give his life to archieve that goal, especially considering he is living on borrowed time, because he was allready dead.
Also if Shepard survives after ME3 it woudl totally screw up any plans for post ME3 games without going far in the future were Shepard is dead.
So I would not only be fine if Shepard dies, I think it is the only sensible way to conclude Shepard's Story.
Also if Shepard survives after ME3 it woudl totally screw up any plans for post ME3 games without going far in the future were Shepard is dead.
So I would not only be fine if Shepard dies, I think it is the only sensible way to conclude Shepard's Story.
#144
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:23
Before the terrible disappointment of the "ending", I would have accepted Shepard dying to save the galaxy. But after that...that....monstrosity, I can't accept Shepard just rolling over and taking a dirt nap. It's so out of character. How many times should Shepard have been dead and gone only to shake it off, even if it took a few years? Shep dying isn't acceptable anymore. Bloody and borderline comatose as the LI pulls him from the rubble is fine, but alive. Nothing less can be tolerated.
#145
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:25
They said they wanted closure, and to move on. I always expected to die. I just didn't expect to go out in a whimper. I want to go out as I should, as Commander Shepard (Shepard means Hero on Tuchanka).
Modifié par jonal11, 22 mars 2012 - 03:26 .
#146
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:26
Shepard should NOT die in ALL of the endings. There should be different outcomes for different consequences of your actions throughout the 3 games.
I support multiple endings. Let there be a desperate, sacrificial ending, one that is bittersweet. Let there be a horrible ending, where the Reapers win. And why the HELL not a happy ending for once? Shepard's EARNED some relaxation for once, with his/her LI.
I support multiple endings. Let there be a desperate, sacrificial ending, one that is bittersweet. Let there be a horrible ending, where the Reapers win. And why the HELL not a happy ending for once? Shepard's EARNED some relaxation for once, with his/her LI.
#147
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:27
Perfectly fine with Shepard dying. I just want the conditionals of Shepard dying to be;
a) Blaze of Glory. Shepard dying = heroic sacrifice by choice. Buying a better future in blood.
You messed up. Didn't get enough war assets. Didn't get enough reputation. Did or didn't do something. See: ME2's suicide mission.
On paper, in analysis, it looks like ME3's ending got it right. Shepard dies... to save the world. Exactly what I asked. Why am I not happy?
I... genuinely don't understand it myself. But what I have realised over the last couple of days is that I don't think the ending *can* be analysed. Because when you're playing through it for the first time, you're not in analysis mode. You're in hands-on experience mode. Not thinking: feeling. The feeling gotten from the sacrificial ending in ME3 was off. Not the dying part itself.
a) Blaze of Glory. Shepard dying = heroic sacrifice by choice. Buying a better future in blood.
On paper, in analysis, it looks like ME3's ending got it right. Shepard dies... to save the world. Exactly what I asked. Why am I not happy?
I... genuinely don't understand it myself. But what I have realised over the last couple of days is that I don't think the ending *can* be analysed. Because when you're playing through it for the first time, you're not in analysis mode. You're in hands-on experience mode. Not thinking: feeling. The feeling gotten from the sacrificial ending in ME3 was off. Not the dying part itself.
#148
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:28
This in a way. There should not be any "Shepard has to ___" but I'd be fine with her dying if my choices as her lead that to being the only way to achieve victory.Brahlis wrote...
No.
In a game like Mass Effect, there shouldn't be any of, "Shepard has to ___"
#149
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:28
I came into this game 100% expecting and prepared for Shepard to die. It to me would have been appropriate. But for it to matter, to me he needed a death in which at the end, with the Reapers defeated, either he is found by the squad you bring with and dies with them, or his body is found and we see the chance to see his team, the people we have grown to love and take on every mission, mourn and celebrate his sacrifice.
I think of Spock's death at the end of Wrath of Khan. When I was growing up I saw Search for Spock before Wrath of Khan. So I already knew that Spock was found and saved later. But it to this day resonates as a powerful, emotional scene. He makes the ultimate sacrifice. His team and friends are with him in the end. They get to mourn him. They celebrate his life. It took all of what, 10m or so tops to leave you with the perfect character death and sacrifice, and celebration.
Imagine if Spock had sacrificed everything, only to have random person talk about him sometime in the future, someone we had no attachment to. Not the same impact.
That's what I expected and hoped for Shepard. Not dying alone, with his team, who had proven time and again they would never leave him, no matter the sacrifice, fleeing.
I think, had they had a scene where Shepard is found, and died, with (for me) Garrus and Liara coming to his side but too late to save his life, and something showing his sacrifice had meant something to those who knew him, I wouldn't have cared about the R/G/B endings.
I think of Spock's death at the end of Wrath of Khan. When I was growing up I saw Search for Spock before Wrath of Khan. So I already knew that Spock was found and saved later. But it to this day resonates as a powerful, emotional scene. He makes the ultimate sacrifice. His team and friends are with him in the end. They get to mourn him. They celebrate his life. It took all of what, 10m or so tops to leave you with the perfect character death and sacrifice, and celebration.
Imagine if Spock had sacrificed everything, only to have random person talk about him sometime in the future, someone we had no attachment to. Not the same impact.
That's what I expected and hoped for Shepard. Not dying alone, with his team, who had proven time and again they would never leave him, no matter the sacrifice, fleeing.
I think, had they had a scene where Shepard is found, and died, with (for me) Garrus and Liara coming to his side but too late to save his life, and something showing his sacrifice had meant something to those who knew him, I wouldn't have cared about the R/G/B endings.
#150
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:29
I'd be OK with Shep dying as long as it makes sense, reflects my decisions, and my love interest is cooking my bad-ass eggo in her toaster.





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