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[Grasich]

cedgedc wrote...

Is it just me or is seriously no one in this thread aware that you can survive through the ending?

How many times have larger than life, powerful entities told Shepard that he/she would die? What so the little blue kid says it and suddenly you all believe it?? My Shepard lived.

I would hardly call a 10 second scene of you taking half a breath being an ending where you "live". You should either LIVE or DIE, not take half a breath and cut to credits.

[prizm123]

if it is properly epic enough

[BadlyBrowned]

I bought ME3 fully expecting Shepard to have to make the ultimate sacrifice.

[cedgedc]

Grasich wrote...

cedgedc wrote...

Is it just me or is seriously no one in this thread aware that you can survive through the ending?

How many times have larger than life, powerful entities told Shepard that he/she would die? What so the little blue kid says it and suddenly you all believe it?? My Shepard lived.

I would hardly call a 10 second scene of you taking half a breath being an ending where you "live". You should either LIVE or DIE, not take half a breath and cut to credits.

It absolutely is an ending where you live. That 10 seconds - to me- was the moment that proved that Shepard was larger than life. Not just a mere man, but something greater still. You destroyed a sentient race of civialization ending machines,  blew up the grandest, oldest structure in the galaxy while you were on it and amidst the rubble you still draw breath. That is a f-kin victory right there.

What's more, Shepard there is in better shape than he/she was after the beginning of ME2. Shepard survived death once, and she'll do it again.

Think of it like the ending to Crank, or Crank 2!

[Grasich]

cedgedc wrote...

Grasich wrote...

cedgedc wrote...

Is it just me or is seriously no one in this thread aware that you can survive through the ending?

How many times have larger than life, powerful entities told Shepard that he/she would die? What so the little blue kid says it and suddenly you all believe it?? My Shepard lived.

I would hardly call a 10 second scene of you taking half a breath being an ending where you "live". You should either LIVE or DIE, not take half a breath and cut to credits.

It absolutely is an ending where you live. That 10 seconds - to me- was the moment that proved that Shepard was larger than life. Not just a mere man, but something greater still. You destroyed a sentient race of civialization ending machines,  blew up the grandest, oldest structure in the galaxy while you were on it and amidst the rubble you still draw breath. That is a f-kin victory right there.

What's more, Shepard there is in better shape than he/she was after the beginning of ME2. Shepard survived death once, and she'll do it again.

Think of it like the ending to Crank, or Crank 2!

And you also commited genocide and destroyed all galactic civilization, sending the galaxy back to the stoneage.

[Thatguyky]

I think there should be a potential outcome where Shepard can die, and one where if you did everything right (like in ME2) everything turns out all right.

[NM_Che56]

My over 400 hours of playing these games multiple times say, NO WAY IN F'IN HELL!

[Twilight_Princess]

I wanted one of my end options to have shepard going out in a blaze of glory, giving it his all. A death a krogan warlord would envy, instead I kinda...quietly died away from the fight itself.

[NM_Che56]

Thatguyky wrote...

I think there should be a potential outcome where Shepard can die, and one where if you did everything right (like in ME2) everything turns out all right.

THAT I agree with.

But in no way shape or form should his death be pre-destined.  Even life should be less than wonderful if he lives but you made crappy choices; i.e., you get to witness the destruction of the galaxy...oh, and for poops and chuckles you've volunteered yourself to be the new Reaper.  BEND OVER!

[Ross42899]

Well, first of, I would like to have at least the possibility for an ending, where Shepard clearly is alive and is reunited with his LI/Crewmates.
But overall I could accept Shepard's death, if the ending made any sense and Shepard's sacrifice was not "a waste of life or time". Seeing all Mass relays being destroyed and getting no answer to what will happen to the galaxy, makes his/her death somewhat useless IMO.

I would hardly call a 10 second scene of you taking half a breath being an ending where you "live". You should either LIVE or DIE, not take half a breath and cut to credits.

Totally agree here.

Modifié par Ross42899, 22 mars 2012 - 04:36 .

[Pairikas]

Well, Yeah, I would be finde with that. Ever except that my Paragon-Shepard die to save the Galaxy.

But I think my Renegade-Shepard would maybe save his Ass and Sacrifice someone else... Diffrent Endings, you know.

[shnellegaming]

If I felt her death saved the galaxy and that there was hope at the end for everyone I was fighting for (crew, squadmates, people on Citadel, Earth) and it had given me closure I think I would have been ok with it.

However after recieving that dismal and depressing ending full of plot holes I'm not sure anything could fix it even if they gave us an ending where Shepard could live.

[TheLostGenius]

He has to die. I expected this since ME1. It's foreshadowed endlessly that he will have to sacrifice him to save the galaxy. Anything else is nothing but pathetic fan pandering, and I'm a HUGE fan of the series.

[mikelope]

I want the end to be a big sacrifice, incl. the possible death of Shepard, but I don't want the ability to destroy the reapers just handed to you like magic. I want a big fight.

[OrumLeader]

MB957 wrote...

well..as i recall in DAO...the sacrifice ending was an option..one of several.

so..I would like the option to sacrifice shep as well as save shep...gives me more fun and replayability

This an important point with the endings.  Everyone is so focused on story (including bioware) which overall is not a bad thing.  But, with the endings so similiar, the replayability of the game was damaged.

I played ME1 and ME2 several times to experience the story changes.  Its one of the things that made the game great.  But with ME3, i've played it once and really have no desire to play it again.  I've seen the videos of the other endings an there is nothing there that is interesting enough to me to put the time into another playthrough.

[Redbelle]

Would you be fine with Shepard dying? In short Yes.

Shepard has already "died" depending on your choices in ME2. Potentially 2 colleagues die in ME1. Death has always been a part of ME and it continues through ME3. I'm fine with Shep dying as long as the character dies or lives by the choices I make.

[cedgedc]

Grasich wrote...

cedgedc wrote...

Grasich wrote...

cedgedc wrote...

Is it just me or is seriously no one in this thread aware that you can survive through the ending?

How many times have larger than life, powerful entities told Shepard that he/she would die? What so the little blue kid says it and suddenly you all believe it?? My Shepard lived.

I would hardly call a 10 second scene of you taking half a breath being an ending where you "live". You should either LIVE or DIE, not take half a breath and cut to credits.

It absolutely is an ending where you live. That 10 seconds - to me- was the moment that proved that Shepard was larger than life. Not just a mere man, but something greater still. You destroyed a sentient race of civialization ending machines,  blew up the grandest, oldest structure in the galaxy while you were on it and amidst the rubble you still draw breath. That is a f-kin victory right there.

What's more, Shepard there is in better shape than he/she was after the beginning of ME2. Shepard survived death once, and she'll do it again.

Think of it like the ending to Crank, or Crank 2!

And you also commited genocide and destroyed all galactic civilization, sending the galaxy back to the stoneage.

I disagree. I believe the ending wasn't meant to be set in stone or taken at face value. I believe that it is subject to interpretation. The way I see it, that little blue man was feeding you enough half truths and lies to try and force you to make the wrong decision.

Look at your choices: A) try to control the reapers  Join all life with the reapers  C) Kill the reapers.

At any other point in any of the games the choice would have been clear. The second option has been the goal of the reapers all along. The first has been their greatest deception - something they have consistently used as a tool to subvert organics.

The entity tells you that by killing the reapers there will be consequences.. you'll kill all the little metal friends you made! You'll die! It'll suck! 

Keep in mind the following two things:

1) All the greatest mililitary and political leaders of the galaxy, of every species is now in one system. Yes, the relays are gone, but even the Protheans managed in their last hours, to build a relay. And now they have access to heaps of reaper scrap technology to help- every piece of which until presently, has proven to be responsible for leaps and bounds in technological developments.

2) Bioware had made it explicitly clear that while this was the end of Shepard's story, they were just getting started with the ME universe! 

How do you know the next plot isn't about the struggle of this new alliance of races to try and reconstruct what they've lost and return to their home worlds? Sounds pretty compelling to me. What's more, there aren't a great many other points in time to have other games take place, given how new to the scene humanity is.

[K2LU533]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

DrDetective wrote...

I don't care if Shepard dies. I just want it to make some goddamn sense.

This, I pretty much expected Shepard to have to make the ultimate sacrifice, and I think Shep dying is a fitting end to the trilogy. Just make the rest of the ending make sense.

[colateral]

Shepard dying is appropriate, even preferable, for a number of possible endings to the trilogy but having him die in all of the endings is more fatalistic than the series has been before, it doesn't seem to fit with the overall theme of triumph over impossible odds.

[shrimprahmen]

i expected that there would be a bitter sweet ending, i expected that my shepard would probobly die......hoped there was a slim chance of getting out of it...like depending on maybe the war effort..or somthing i dont know.....would have liked shep to survive....but like i said i expected a bitter sweet ending.....we just got bitter....meh.

[Jadebaby]

Namiel wrote...

MB957 wrote...

well..as i recall in DAO...the sacrifice ending was an option..one of several.

so..I would like the option to sacrifice shep as well as save shep...gives me more fun and replayability

This^^^

This again^

[thrashmental]

He should be able to die, but also be able to live. We need more alternate endings

[My-name-is-Paradox]

I think it should depend on the actions you take up until that point. I've heard somewhere that a concern was "There shouldn't be squeal for only some people." That doesn't really make any sense considering you were able to die at the end of Mass Effect 2. To be honest I just want want some closure and an ending that makes sense.

[cedgedc]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Namiel wrote...

MB957 wrote...

well..as i recall in DAO...the sacrifice ending was an option..one of several.

so..I would like the option to sacrifice shep as well as save shep...gives me more fun and replayability

This^^^

This again^

Sure... except the Blight poses a threat equivalent to a reaper fart. A hero fighting to save basically a country in one world should be able to fight and live. Consider the scale of what Shepard was fighting versus the hero of Ferelden. It's a miracle that ANYONE lived at the end of ME3 let alone the lone hero who charged into the enemy compound with a pistol and a dozen bleeding wounds!

[cotheer]

MissNet wrote...

As ONE of the options - yes, i'm fine with it.
As ONLY the option - no, it's just wrong.

I'd really like more people to understand this.