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DHJudas

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For clarification sake, no I've never cheated and i have no intention of starting, but this started emediately after first checking out multiplayer and at first, i thought i was just being a terrible player and somehow "missing" targets resulting in them taking no damage or very little, through to basically being untouchable and for me to be unable to lay a finger on the targets.

Long story short as i give a brief discription of the issue that slowly gets worse the longer you continue to play.

The first encounter was while playing a Quarian Engineer, the moment i realized i couldn't interact with ammo/allies/objectives is when i would clue in that all my shots/skills i was trying to use had no effect because i wasn't "really" there or something. Basically a ghost running around having no impact.

All those situations i would just exit losing all the powerups i had purchased. This can happen on Wave 1 or the Last wave and everything inbetween for zero apparent reason. Once it happens, there is no turning back and it only gets worse.

Out of a few situations where i did stick around a little while, i noticed i wouldn't take damage much or at all. And also noticed that i could confuse and disorient enemies making it much much easier for my allied squad members to destroy them with ease. I could even keep them occupied allow the squad to complete objectives very easily.

It happens on bronze/silver/gold, and when it happens on gold, this makes completing the entire mission VERY ease if it is abused. How it happens i've love to know and I wish it could get fixed, sucks wasting credits/bioware points on bonus ammo and other power ups just to be a mostly useless thing.

Here is a video (original recording is 1920p resized to 720p so that i could fix the entire video in a single file that wouldn't take 6 days to upload)



www.youtube.com/watch

Pay close attention to where things start to get quite apparently wonky at around the 3rd wave, most obviously around the 4 minute and 30 second mark.

Skip to the atlas attacks or the stealth cerburus assassin type enemies, they seem to detect me after such a long time in this glitched state, while typical enemies just completely ignore me.

I uploaded the video specifically for bioware to use for analysis if it would help them understand how or why this might be happen.

If every 3rd mission i play i end up like this.... it's extremely frustrating.

And no, my internet and ISP is flawless, i was running tests on this at the same time, my connection to EA Servers however has been anything but decent from the frequent and unpredictable amount of times i've tried purchasing a pack and get a lost connection or blank screen resulting in my credits/bioware points disappearing and no pack to speak off. Think i'm sitting at about 300,000 credits lost thus far.

Modifié par DHJudas, 22 mars 2012 - 03:45 .


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DHJudas

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I've made a reply on the video making it easier to click on specific time spots that are of perhaps interest. Just click the time and enjoy or be annoyed or whatever.

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I just posted in another thread that a friend of mine has had this bug twice now over the past two or three days. Never occurred during the many hours of playing the demo. It's really frustrating since there doesn't seem to be any warning signs. Just suddenly you can't pick up ammo and you can't really do anything except run around like a fool.

http://social.biowar.../index/10011651

I hope they can fix this! Your video might prove useful.

As for losing credits, I've had that happen to me yesterday. :-/

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thanks.. at least i know i'm not completely alone on this issue..

From what i have determined so far is that it's like caused by whomever is hosting the game.... i don't know.. but having dealt with unreal engine based servers for a few years in the past and kept on them, it seems like everything slowly desyncs and none of the players are getting updated, the host refuses to receive data from you, and refuses to update your position and attacks for others sometimes.

I'd love to find out who the other players are in the match and see what it looked like from their perspective... was i just moving around the map... standing in one spot... what? Clearly the host saw i was moving as the enemies would "occasionally" acknowledge me a thread and try to malee/attack me so at least my position was being updated by the host.. but fireing or picking up ammo or interacting with objectives/squad members was being ignored.

Wonder if this is the new "lag".... kinda sucks how many people have really bad routing or connection issues or just a computer unable to handle the load. I'm WELL above system requirements for my system even while recording. I could have 6 copies of ME3 running at once and still have ram/cpu/hardrive access speeds and bandwidth left over well above what is required.

I've found that people that are hosting games using anything less than say a intel i series cpu or lower performance cpu.... For example someone i know hosted a game using an AMD Athlon 64 x2 5200+ which is a few years old dual core cpu, using 4gb of ddr2 ram and a nvidia 9600gt which plays the game relatively ok.. but leaves a lot to be desired .. still playing at 720p its got as much power as an xbox360.... anywho, if he hosted a game, the other players would experience lag or weird jittering, Sometimes people would just stop on the screen and some would just get a connection lost message, even thought his internet connection is technically better than mine and more reliable. For him everything was still playing fine.

Had another case like that with an E2200 Core 2 duo, not a bad cpu but not great either, better than the 5200+ amd, however similare results.

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I had the some of the same issue's last night. I was unable to pick up any ammo. Biotic powers and weapons had no effect. I was playing my female engineer. Also on one of the matches I was the last survivor and one the other players said it looked like I was crouched down going in a circle but to me I was running all over the map.

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Had the same problem a few times over the past few nights, mainly down to the hosting players connection. We just changed hosts and problems were solved.

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I've had similar issues.
Often I'm able to walk around enemies without them acknowledging me and experience hilarious lags, to the point where I fire point-black headshots and walk away with my target's head exploding seconds after I've walked away.

For me, my unable to harm targets usually means a box pops up and says I've been disconnected. I've also had weird stuff like being unable to do anything but walk sideways, can't fire, revive use powers or take cover.

tbh I'm lucky if I manage to get through a whole match including extraction.

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DHJudas

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funny part is.... that i was able to complete the whole mission.... basically 6 entire rounds of not doing anything but being in ghost mode.... irritating the hell out of enemies when they noticed.

There needs to be some sort of additional checks put in place for the host, Obviously i wasn't disconnected... and really i shouldn't have been, clearly the 3 other players weren't having any issues (that i could see.. maybe they were.... ).... i know there are several games i've played where the lag or the host themselves are lagging it looks like...

Need some better checks in place to figure out if something wonky is happening. I'd take a full wave restart in order to resync up over this crap.

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Just updating this thread with a link to a player reporting the same issue:

http://social.biowar...4952/1#10459709

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DHJudas

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yeah i just noticed that as well..

Modifié par DHJudas, 22 mars 2012 - 05:18 .


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Yesterday I had a long issue which caused many players to get annoyed with me, but they did not explained me what they were experiencing from their view. What happened to me is that I started having lots of lag and then my character started acting as if the real terrain and world would be a different one that the represented, meaning there were invisible walls I could not pass through and in which I could take cover. Then my character went up and stood over some barrels at the Firebase Ghost. I was stuck there for around 3 waves. Mostly enemies did not notice me, until they started firing to me (I could not fire them or use any powers), but got bored before killing me (something I was looking for hoping my character could be refreshed when resurrecting). Eventually I was spawned to the evacuation/beginning area, but several meters up and my character started falling to the underworld literally, going down the map to die and then automatically resurrect up again to fall again and again. The issue never finished as it continued until the rest of the team succeed in the mission.

As others have said it never ever had happened to me before and I started playing multiplayer with the demo. I haven't played as much as some people, but enough times to know that had never happened to me before in that map. Hope this long post without video helps to understand the issue. Next time I will make sure to record it as the OP did.

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I've yet to witness the falling through the world issue..... which from my understanding is the most frequent thing to occur.... bizarre as it seems.

Pathing issues would explain the invisible walls and passing through objects giving the other players a wtf moment. That's if they actually saw it.

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I should add that once I got stuck on an upper position the only thing I was able to do was moving the camera. And yeah bizarre at least was :s

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I just talked to another friend of mine and found out that he has experienced the same thing a handful of times, even as a Leader/host! So it is not just other players experiencing this due to a laggy leader, but the leader himself can get glitched too.

As for the falling through the world thing, it has happened to my friend after he got revived at the end of a wave.

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Yriss wrote...

Just updating this thread with a link to a player reporting the same issue:

http://social.biowar...4952/1#10459709

Thanks for linking the threads together.
When I first saw the issue, I had not seen any other posts on it, I haven't seen posts since, and nobody updated my thread, and I have never seen it again, so I figured it was rare.

However, last night I did see one person stuck in a corner running straight the whole time for the last 3 Waves.
I don't know if they were stuck with the W and Space key

They drew the ire of a Geth Prime and I revived them twice in that corner.

I think I was the host.

After reading other descriptions, it could be that guy was experiencing this glitch, or they were just AFK, I can't be certain.

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DHJudas

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I would suspect that it was likely the glitch.......

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This is most likely not a "glitch" as much as it is an EA Server Communication issue. I have been having problems for 4 days now, and have seen this happen to me multiple times. Basically, the EA servers have been horrible lately and it has been causing strange problems on EVERYTHING related to them. Even to the EA Help Live Chat (had that bug out on me twice in the past 20 mins).

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really strange how they have it setup to connect and host... kinda silly really...

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Well, there is apparently a mystery 25mb patch for the game that you have to manually check for (right click the game in origin and check for updates) that *SEEMS* to have fixed my multiplayer disconnect issue (which I think is tied to the topic from the OP). So try downloading that and see if you see the issue again...?

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actually did that just now.. and no update....

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Weapons and powers not working as well as no ammo pickup is not an uncommon issue, especially when the game gets "laggy." It is either latency related or server load related, I do not know. This is not my area of expertise. But this has happened several times to myself and friends in the demo and now the full version.

As for invulnerability, I have only had this happen to me once and that was in the demo. Again, there started be be problems with "lag" which may have been server related. But the entire team was basically invulnerable and had infinite ammo. The infinite ammo occurred because reloading didn't seem to reduce your thermal clip count if I remember correctly. But like I said, that has only happened to me once. Weapons not having affect has been more common for me, as has getting floated or stuck in the ground as Vanguard.

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Anyone think this is getting worse recently?

First game i joined last night and BAM.. happened on the 5th wave.... only to exit mission.... join a new one... and happened almost emediately again.

so i went and played some single player .... *sigh* only to experience the invisible liara bug on one of the missions involving jacob and then this weird bug with the doctor in the medical lab on normandy where the dialogue starts and she turns around but it looks like she wasn't supposed to causing her neck and head to constantly try to twist around in a deformed unnatural way lol.

So many issues...

Still i thought that taking edi/javik with me on the jacob mission resulting in jacob acknowledging liara for no apparent reason and invisible liara saying "oh hi jacob" blew my mind.

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Just had it happen twice out of three matches, managed to stick around and finish one of them, but felt like I was letting the squad down. Anyone have any ideas for fixing this?

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I've had this happen to me once, was playing with 2 russians and a chinese guy.

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Yup, happened to me 2 games in a row.
- same host and players
- asari adept on bronze
- 1st time, i could still shoot to kill and get ammo, but biotics had no affect on anything
- 2nd time, i could not interact with anything... EXCEPT die from enemy melee. once i died and re spawned, my character was find again
* - i also noticed that the shuttle was visible... i'm not sure i'm that's associated with the bug or not