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[CroGamer002]

It's IGN.

[tetrisblock4x1]

You can't spell underpants without derp.

[Wompoo]

I wouldn't call finger painting by a 2 year old art, yet that is the quality we were handed. The art argument is smoke and mirrors, for a poorly conceived an executed ending lacking depth, impact and closure. If it was a movie or a book it would of been torn apart by critics. Game sites are less then credible animals. Also do not for get they are just opinions and nothing more (like mine). Art, there is absolutely nothing artistic portrayed by that ending (use of a colour pallet does not equal art) and the argument is insulting. I will say this, the game was exceptional (story wise only) up and until the return to Earth, then it went downhill and fast.

[AkiKishi]

The art thing is kind of stupid. You play the game which has any number of variables and then the ending is somehow art because it's a fixed point. Yeah really don't buy that. Metal Gear , now that may be art but calling a paint by numbers with no numbers art (ME3) never going to fly.

[bleachorange]

I never did like IGN. Too many ads. Lately I learned all the reasons why other people don't like them, and it's like: huh. Now I know what my subconscious was telling me.

[M2S SOLID JOSH]

must...resist...unleashing rage...for..ign ggrrrghhrgh...*assuming direct control* ah crap. but seriousely i cant stand ign and for that matter EA and capcom." ive had enough of their tabloid journalism". now if only i could punch someone.

[Blarty]

cipher86 wrote...

but is okay with post-release changes made to Infamous 2's protoganist, in fact Colin Moriarty (the same guy who says changing ME3s ending sets a "bad precedent") says it's a good sign for the industry:

http://ps3.ign.com/a.../1114043p1.html

Here he is bashing the ME3 ending situation:

http://www.metacafe....rous_precedent/

Their opinions are based on who's paying them that day.

Did you read this bit?

After the battle that was waged when Infamous 2 first popped up, we thought it only fair to poll the IGN editors once again and let them have their say on the new old look. Are they happy that Cole's been touched up? More importantly,Sucker Punch said that it changed Cole the first time because players said they weren't happy with the original design and now the developer's changing it again because of what people are saying; at what point should developers stick to their guns and ignore criticism? 

Changing the aesthetic design of a 'character' is irrelevant next to changing the entire end sequence of an entire series of games. Not like for like comparison.

The reason why it is a bad precedent, is that should Bioware change it's story to suit you, it indicates that fans have editorial veto after the fact of release to an item that they have no true creative input to, and please spare me the platitudes of Bioware working with fans,etc as you so quickly dismiss everything else that Bioware says as lies anyway.

[cipher86]

Blarty wrote...
Did you read this bit?

After the battle that was waged when Infamous 2 first popped up, we thought it only fair to poll the IGN editors once again and let them have their say on the new old look. Are they happy that Cole's been touched up? More importantly,Sucker Punch said that it changed Cole the first time because players said they weren't happy with the original design and now the developer's changing it again because of what people are saying; at what point should developers stick to their guns and ignore criticism? 

Changing the aesthetic design of a 'character' is irrelevant next to changing the entire end sequence of an entire series of games. Not like for like comparison.

The reason why it is a bad precedent, is that should Bioware change it's story to suit you, it indicates that fans have editorial veto after the fact of release to an item that they have no true creative input to, and please spare me the platitudes of Bioware working with fans,etc as you so quickly dismiss everything else that Bioware says as lies anyway.

Caving to fan demands is caving to fan demands.  You better believe that if they fixed Joker's face to look more like the ME2 version it'd be for the better.  Why can't the same be said for improving the ending?  Apparently they thought it was good (lord knows how), plenty of fans who LOVE the trilogy and looked at every detail are saying it's wrong, goes against the lore and needs to be corrected.

The gaming media is looking at this a lot differently than the dedicated fanbase, and some people who like the ending, I have to wonder if they looked at how it synced with the trilogy as a whole or just took it at face value.  The only way the ending "works" is if you don't ask any questions.

Modifié par cipher86, 22 mars 2012 - 04:23 .

[Hoekzema]

Basicly I feel like this. I watch Bob Ross everyday I think he is a lovely painter of forests and stuff. Imagine yourself in my shoes, imagine being extremely passionate about Bob Ross and wanting to follow everything he does!
Then all of the sudden he does one more episode where he paints fruit and then he quits. That would ****** me off.

No disrespect intended towards Bob Ross, also the above argument is fiction I just thought it would be a good example.

[batlin]

I'd like to point out another article from the guy who wrote that

http://m.ign.com/articles/1114043

So fans complaining about Cole from InFamous 2's look and getting it changed as a result is a good thing, but fans complaining about ME3's ending and getting it changed is a bad thing.

This guy is such a tool.

[Hussain_2012]

People in IGN will support BW because they need BW more than angry mob who didn't like the ending. BW gives a lot of news (leaks) and granted IGN interviews with key personal in BW. So what ever IGN is doing now is very predictable ....

[Naughty Bear]

Changing Mass Effect 3 ending is bad for art?

Serously?!

I'm not a deep person so maybe i don't see art the way artists do but to me, that ending is not art. It illogical mess that ripped a hole in space and time and caused the destruction of a innocent young race.

Then again i don't now what i stand on if games are art. Or if i even care.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 22 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[Habs25]

Kekeke

Creating a story and such a universe like in ME is art, no doubt. Just because its mass marketed and a video game does not take away from that. Luckily, video games can be molded a lot more than books or movies for example. Changing or adding to the ending is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as it fits with the creators' vision of their art. If it is forced, then we have a problem.

[Gemini1179]

I have never gone to IGN's website before becoming a member here and seeing links to their site. Even then I've only ever cliked on like two of them. Don't care about IGN, didn't and don't know who Jessica Chobot is and don't care.

The fact that one of their employees is in the game simply discredits anything they try to say off the bat.

[Kandid001]

You can't spell IGNorance without IGN.

[Dezdecaydance]

Ending doesn't need change....it just needs to be expanded on...ur all indoctrinated lol.

[LegendaryBlade]

Mesina2 wrote...

It's IGN.

This

[Oron345]

IGN are entitled to share their opinion, it's just no one cares when they do.

[Dezdecaydance]

Kandid001 wrote...


You can't spell IGNorance without IGN.

lol nice one haha i think i wiol use that.

[Docmeff22]

BobbyDylan wrote...

IGN is just scared Bioware might cut their employee out of the game.

I was actually kind of excited when Jess was put in the game.  I love her on IGN.  She's funny, smart, sexy, etc, but her character and performance in ME3 was just bad.

IGN really does not have any credibility.  The guy who reviewed ME3 didn't even play with an imported character.

IGN's reviews are bought.  Their reviews are not credible. 

[Draythe]

IGN's "review" of Mass Effect 3 was covered top to bottom in nothing but advertisements and "buy it now!" links, as well as all sorts of ME3 background art that looks painstakingly custom made for the "review". High budget blockbuster movies get bashed by the critics all the time when they deserve it. Ever wonder why the same is almost never true for AAA games?



relevant

Modifié par Draythe, 22 mars 2012 - 05:15 .

[The BS Police]

You can't spell "ignorant" without IGN.

[The man of myth]

I think you all feed off of one another. Who ever can trash IGN the most in one sentence is the winner.

[Wise Men]

I hope Bioware changes the endings because then I can start a petition to get the endings of other games changed that I didn't like.

For example:

1. Splinter Cell Conviction (The ending was too sad. I wanted Sam to return to the agency and after playing the Spinter Cell series for 5 games, I deserve to have the ending I want because I am so invested in the character).
2. Heavy Rain (They promised my choices would determine the endings and it's interactive, so I should be able to create the ending I want.  I wanted an ending where the mother was the serial killer not the one they game me)
3. Alan Wake, Flower, and Journey (to vague...not enough details...no clear answers or closure...too many plot holes).
4. Super Mario Brothers (after all of that, all I get is a "thank you" from the princess c'mon what a letdown!)
5. Uncharted 1 and 2 (they added a magical or supernatural aspect to it at the very end. I didn't like that. It's inconsistent with the world)
6. Halo 3 (They promised that I was going to "Finish the Fight" but they lied because now they are making Halo 4.)

Anyway let's hope Bioware changes Mass Effect 3's ending, because I have a long list of games that could benefit from this precedent.
 

Modifié par Wise Men, 22 mars 2012 - 05:31 .