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[Jonto0]

Why are assualt rifles nearly useless? You need to fire an entire magasine into an enemy before they die (roughly between 40-80 shots) Basically there is no use for them, since peeking out from cover to take down one expose you to long to be efficient, even if you got high lvl weapon and mod.

This is really an issue at silver and gold, i understand it shouldn't be easy to kill enemies, but this is ridiculous.

[Grodash]

I love my Mattock.

[Airmanator]

Grodash wrote...

I love my Mattock.

I love my Saber.

[Tangster]

Airmanator wrote...

Grodash wrote...

I love my Mattock.

I love my Saber.

Same.<3

[safrrr]

The falcon was the strongest assault rifle before the nerf, together with the turian rate of fire bonus ability it could even catch up with a widow. But now i agree, all assault rifles suck. I end up using asari with its biotic explosions, or the infiltrator with sniper damage bonus more. The soldier class has no use anymore.

[Plakmasta]

Think about it this way, most guns take an entire clip to kill enemies on gold. Sniper rifles, some pistols, and some shotguns. If the AR was different it would be OP, also headshots make em drop much faster.

[Elecbender]

Mattock, Vindicator, Saber, and Revenant (with Turian Soldier) are fine. They're usable on Gold.

[tvih]

I liked the Mattock in SP. But now in MP since I can't seem to get it past level I due to the ridiculous store lottery system, it just feels weak. Really better off using a Carnifex I, which in addition to being lighter does more damage per clip and seems to do at least as much "DPS" too. I play Soldier just to have something to use the Mattock with, but just like the Mattock, the whole Soldier class feels weak. Meh.

[Foxtrot813]

Plakmasta wrote...

Think about it this way, most guns take an entire clip to kill enemies on gold.

You gotta start aiming for the head man.

[MrGuse]

It helps, but some ARs (like the Phaeston) start showing that they're underpowered as low-down as silver. Luckily you can fire 70 rounds before reload...

[swjobson]

Put on proper weapon mods. Barrel extension raise general damage by up to 25%, piercing mod will ignore up to 65% Armored damage resistance, stability mod for recoil kick, scope for accuracy.

And there are a lot of different rifles. Some are fast firing, some have huge clips, others reload quickly, and then there's the kind that have high per-bullet damage.

Stop complainimg about the assault rifles. They're fine.

[Rifneno]

Tangster wrote...

Airmanator wrote...

Grodash wrote...

I love my Mattock.

I love my Saber.

Same.<3

And there's a reason.  Because those are two of the highest damage per shot ARs, if not THE two highest.  Armor is retarded in this game.  Retarded.  It takes off a certain number of damage from each hit down to a minimum of 1.  Meaning high damage means everything and firing rate is a distant second.  I've been an online RPG fan since the early 90's.  I've seen that system used many times.  It is a recipe for disaster.  It's just that simple.  It cripples smaller, quicker weapons to the point of uselessness.  This is why nobody uses SMGs.  The problem extends to ARs because most of them are rapid fire, low damage too.  Notice how everyone rags on the geth pulse rifle for being trash?  Look at its stats.  It's the lowest damaging but it also pumps out bullets at an incredibly rate.  There's no reason it should suck from looking at the stats.  The real problem is that it's the AR being hit hardest by the craptastic combat mechanics.  The saber is being hit the lightest, of course.

For the most part, yes, assault rifles do indeed suck.  They need to change this system.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

swjobson wrote...

Put on proper weapon mods. Barrel extension raise general damage by up to 25%, piercing mod will ignore up to 65% Armored damage resistance, stability mod for recoil kick, scope for accuracy.

 

Then it will be equal to the Carnifex 1 without any mods <_<

ARs are terrible. That includes the Sabre. 

[Sevrun]

Funny, I can do just fine with the automatic Rifles. the Avenger performs well regardless of situation due to a high RoF and rapid reload. The Revenant holds so many rounds that it's hard NOT to kill multiple targets before being forced to reload...

Overall, if you're having a problem killing things you're either A.) Not controlling your fire or B.) Using a low damage per shot rifle against armor.

Either way is the same, the weapon's fine, YOU are the problem.

[Rifneno]

Sevrun wrote...

Funny, I can do just fine with the automatic Rifles. the Avenger performs well regardless of situation due to a high RoF and rapid reload. The Revenant holds so many rounds that it's hard NOT to kill multiple targets before being forced to reload...

Overall, if you're having a problem killing things you're either A.) Not controlling your fire or B.) Using a low damage per shot rifle against armor.

Either way is the same, the weapon's fine, YOU are the problem.

Bull.  Just because something CAN be done one way doesn't mean it isn't vastly easier another way.

[Foxtrot813]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

swjobson wrote...

Put on proper weapon mods. Barrel extension raise general damage by up to 25%, piercing mod will ignore up to 65% Armored damage resistance, stability mod for recoil kick, scope for accuracy.

 

Then it will be equal to the Carnifex 1 without any mods <_<

ARs are terrible. That includes the Sabre. 

Saber is the ultimate disappointment. It sounds like a treat for anyone who values high-precision combat... until you see its stats and realize it's heavier than the Carnifex and LESS accurate. The only advantage is the boost to ammo capacity, which is minor. Want a Saber? Just slap a scope and barrel onto a Carnifex. There. Now you can out-perform any Saber user. Suddenly GLAD I'm up to the Carnifex VII.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Sevrun wrote...

Funny, I can do just fine with the automatic Rifles. the Avenger performs well regardless of situation due to a high RoF and rapid reload. The Revenant holds so many rounds that it's hard NOT to kill multiple targets before being forced to reload...

Overall, if you're having a problem killing things you're either A.) Not controlling your fire or B.) Using a low damage per shot rifle against armor.

Either way is the same, the weapon's fine, YOU are the problem.

<_<

How many times does this have to be explained? 

Anything an AR can do with Damage/APmods/ammo a Heavy pistol can do with a lower weight and more accuracy. Sure you can get V level mods and make it decent, but far from good.

ARs suck bro.

[swjobson]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

swjobson wrote...

Put on proper weapon mods. Barrel extension raise general damage by up to 25%, piercing mod will ignore up to 65% Armored damage resistance, stability mod for recoil kick, scope for accuracy.

 

Then it will be equal to the Carnifex 1 without any mods <_<

ARs are terrible. That includes the Sabre. 

Carnifex only carries a few dozen rounds. My Salarian Engineer uses the Phaeston X with Stability/Piercing just fine on gold, and I don't have to camp ammo boxes. u trolling

[Sevrun]

Rifneno wrote...

Sevrun wrote...

Funny, I can do just fine with the automatic Rifles. the Avenger performs well regardless of situation due to a high RoF and rapid reload. The Revenant holds so many rounds that it's hard NOT to kill multiple targets before being forced to reload...

Overall, if you're having a problem killing things you're either A.) Not controlling your fire or B.) Using a low damage per shot rifle against armor.

Either way is the same, the weapon's fine, YOU are the problem.

Bull.  Just because something CAN be done one way doesn't mean it isn't vastly easier another way.

You wanna knock how I roll why don't you try rolling with me to SEE how I roll first before you want to start a pissy fit.

My
Way
Works
For
Me

Not my fault if you can't figure out how to use my favored weapons, in fact, I couldn't care less if you threw a proper snit and never played again.  There is NOTHING wrong with the Assault Rifles if they are used in the roles they were designed for.

[xZBx]

safrrr wrote...

The falcon was the strongest assault rifle before the nerf, together with the turian rate of fire bonus ability it could even catch up with a widow. But now i agree, all assault rifles suck. I end up using asari with its biotic explosions, or the infiltrator with sniper damage bonus more. The soldier class has no use anymore.

My turian soldier has something to say about that with my geth plasma shotgun VI. 

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Sevrun wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Sevrun wrote...

Funny, I can do just fine with the automatic Rifles. the Avenger performs well regardless of situation due to a high RoF and rapid reload. The Revenant holds so many rounds that it's hard NOT to kill multiple targets before being forced to reload...

Overall, if you're having a problem killing things you're either A.) Not controlling your fire or B.) Using a low damage per shot rifle against armor.

Either way is the same, the weapon's fine, YOU are the problem.

Bull.  Just because something CAN be done one way doesn't mean it isn't vastly easier another way.

You wanna knock how I roll why don't you try rolling with me to SEE how I roll first before you want to start a pissy fit.

My
Way
Works
For
Me

Happy it works for you, your free to continue using it. But we're discussing how terrible ARs actually are.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

swjobson wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

swjobson wrote...

Put on proper weapon mods. Barrel extension raise general damage by up to 25%, piercing mod will ignore up to 65% Armored damage resistance, stability mod for recoil kick, scope for accuracy.

 

Then it will be equal to the Carnifex 1 without any mods <_<

ARs are terrible. That includes the Sabre. 

Carnifex only carries a few dozen rounds. My Salarian Engineer uses the Phaeston X with Stability/Piercing just fine on gold, and I don't have to camp ammo boxes. u trolling

Phaeston is a terrible gun on gold, it's the worst of the worst.

You don't even have to camp ammo boxes with the paladin, you just have to know their locations....

[Sevrun]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...


You wanna knock how I roll why don't you try rolling with me to SEE how I roll first before you want to start a pissy fit.

My
Way
Works
For
Me


Happy it works for you, your free to continue using it. But we're discussing how terrible ARs actually are.

FOR YOU.

I work them just fine, hold my own in Gold with an AR wielding Soldier, can top the boards in Silver with the same soldier, and this is without the mods that everyone deems absolutely vital (AP/Extended Barrel).  I personally think the Paladin blows donkey nuts, but you don't see me running around bashing it either.  My results speak for themselves, and they tell me there is nothing wrong with the ARs.  The Phaeston in particular is a nice weapon -unless you're shooting at armor-  THAT'S the only flaw to it, outside that caveat she performs wonderfully.  My Revenant doesn't even have THAT problem.


Edit: Sorry, mucked up the quote there,

Modifié par Sevrun, 22 mars 2012 - 06:36 .

[C.M Liu]

Jonto0 wrote...

Why are assualt rifles nearly useless? You need to fire an entire magasine into an enemy before they die (roughly between 40-80 shots) Basically there is no use for them, since peeking out from cover to take down one expose you to long to be efficient, even if you got high lvl weapon and mod.

This is really an issue at silver and gold, i understand it shouldn't be easy to kill enemies, but this is ridiculous.

agree 100%, who will use Geth Pulse Rifle haha, I think developers should look at COD 4 assault rifles and fix Mass Effect 3's assault rifles for multiplayer mode.

[Ash J. Williams]

My Krogan Sentinel (one of my three most played) rolls with a Mattock (love it to bits), if your fingers are fast enough at clicking you can get off a nice amount of rounds per second & it packs a punch. I use pistols when playing Adept/Vanguard but AR for most other classes.

Not too much of a fan of the Saber, powerful yes but like the Carnifex I'd rather use a faster shooting gun (Arc Pistol). I don't really play with many AR but the Avenger, Phaeston, & Revenant aren't bad from when I've played with them.

Modifié par Ash J. Williams, 22 mars 2012 - 06:45 .