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[Sevrun]

Mazandus wrote...

When you cannot even kill a husk or assault trooper without reloading an automatic, something is terribly wrong with the weapon design. 

Never had this problem, even on Gold without significant latency problems.  And I've only ever been booted from a Gold crew because they felt too l33t to play with a Soldier they'd never played with.  *shrug* That can happen regardless of score.

[Jarmatos]

Saying that assault rifles are viable on a Turian with marksman doesn't make assault rifles good, it just means they are viable on a Turian with marksman.

[Sabresandiego]

Jarmatos wrote...

Saying that assault rifles are viable on a Turian with marksman doesn't make assault rifles good, it just means they are viable on a Turian with marksman.

Exactly, there is only one class in the game which can effectively use sustained fire assault rifles and be competetive. Every other class is better off with another weapon, unless you just want to use something like an avenger for the convience of not having to click while maintaining 200% power cooldowns.

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 22 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[Sevrun]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Jarmatos wrote...

Saying that assault rifles are viable on a Turian with marksman doesn't make assault rifles good, it just means they are viable on a Turian with marksman.

Exactly, there is only one class in the game which can effectively use sustained fire assault rifles and be competetive. Every other class is better off with another weapon, unless you just want to use something like an avenger for the convience of not having to click while maintaining 200% power cooldowns.

This isn't accurate, as I said last time.

[TexasToast712]

 AR's are fine. Pistols are NOT op. Pistols aren't going to be nerfed. GET OVER IT. I take a AR all the time and do just fine. I seriously think people use a weapon one time only then come here and cry.

[SinerAthin]

TexasToast712 wrote...

 AR's are fine. Pistols are NOT op. Pistols aren't going to be nerfed. GET OVER IT. I take a AR all the time and do just fine. I seriously think people use a weapon one time only then come here and cry.

I recommend you get more aquaint with the different weapons, then say that they're balanced

[RiouHotaru]

My Vindicator disagrees with you, OP

[TexasToast712]

SinerAthin wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 AR's are fine. Pistols are NOT op. Pistols aren't going to be nerfed. GET OVER IT. I take a AR all the time and do just fine. I seriously think people use a weapon one time only then come here and cry.

I recommend you get more aquaint with the different weapons, then say that they're balanced

I use ALL weapon types. I switch up all the time. Pistols are far from OP and AR's are far from useless.

[spacehamsterZH]

RiouHotaru wrote...

My Vindicator disagrees with you, OP

Funny, mine does to. Vindicator rules.

[Rifneno]

Between the many folks sharing their personal victories with ARs and math, no offense but I'm going to believe math. And math says ARs (and SMGs holy hell) desperately need a boost. It's surprisingly possible for a weapon group to be underwhelming when people can make an ultra rare weapon work. Especially since it behaves like a sniper rifle without a scope rather than a traditional AR.

[Sevrun]

spacehamsterZH wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

My Vindicator disagrees with you, OP

Funny, mine does to. Vindicator rules.

Ditto, and I only have a Vindicator I

[Naqey]

can you rock with an assault rifle on gold? sure
is it as good / viable as a sniper rifle / heavy pistol ? not really

imo ar dmg should be buffed by ~15%

[Sevrun]

Naqey wrote...

can you rock with an assault rifle on gold? sure
is it as good / viable as a sniper rifle / heavy pistol ? not really

imo ar dmg should be buffed by ~15%

Depends on how you play.  I don't score any better or worse with most weapons, the Revenant and Crusader being exceptions to this.  I've named them both.  Elise (revenant) and Luisa (crusader)

[S9ilent]

I don't use assault rifles to kill things. I use them to weaken things, ammo power combo's or as signalling devices for the team. (pew pew pew pew = TURN AROUND YOUR ABOUT TO BE KILLED. Friendly fire = your doing something wrong, e.g. extract!! stop ruining my combo's, objectives!, (Vick) Do better than you currently doing amegos)

The assault rifle is a versatile weapon, it is the 'jack of all trades, master of none sort' of weapon. (i.e. It can be used in any situation, but for every situation, there is something that does it better).

[kieran.me]

use you're quipment

seriously level 1 cryo or incendiary ammo (cryo personally)
level 1 assault rifle mod
any fullauto assault rifle
bronze or silver
???
profit!

i don't know about anyone else but i'm swimming in equipment i just don't use!
i run gold matches with my human engineer with the above set up with the GPR and level 3 equipment

remove shields
freeze or chill
(chill is when they're light blue, move slightly slower AND take 25% extra damage)

ok incendiary may be better on repears for it's damage to armour but both geth and cerberus i find cyro better

[Duckin50s]

i dig the revenant, its like the AK-47 of Mass Effect its big, powerful, and cant hit anything

[Geakker]

Airmanator wrote...

Grodash wrote...

I love my Mattock.

I love my Saber.

I love my Paladin.



Yeah, its a pistol. Which is really strange.

[Ediblestarfish]

kieran.me wrote...

use you're quipment

seriously level 1 cryo or incendiary ammo (cryo personally)
level 1 assault rifle mod
any fullauto assault rifle
bronze or silver
???
profit!

i don't know about anyone else but i'm swimming in equipment i just don't use!
i run gold matches with my human engineer with the above set up with the GPR and level 3 equipment

remove shields
freeze or chill
(chill is when they're light blue, move slightly slower AND take 25% extra damage)

ok incendiary may be better on repears for it's damage to armour but both geth and cerberus i find cyro better

This is mostly what I use my AR for, debuffs and CC with cryo ammo.  The extra damage is just a bonus on my engineers.

[Izithel]

All I can say is that Assault rifles are very weak against armor while almost no weapon or class is weak against shields.
Why take and AR when most other weapons do the job almost just as good?

Shotguns, pistols and snipers can easily remove shields while still having a lot of power against armor, and even when they do not most classes got some anti shield ability anyway,
Meanwhile assault rifles get almost all their damage negated by armor, have no significant advantage against shields...

And they bearly even stagger opponent so their not even good at that.
not to mention that you have to keep yourself exposed all the time to even aproach the damage of any other weapon class.

The Only ARs worth having are the Avenger, because it wieghts nothing, the Mattock and Saber because they can at least punch trough armor and some times the vindicator.


Assault rifles in my opinion are only really good to spread debuffs around...

Modifié par Izithel, 22 mars 2012 - 11:26 .

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

TexasToast712 wrote...

 AR's are fine. Pistols are NOT op. Pistols aren't going to be nerfed. GET OVER IT. I take a AR all the time and do just fine. I seriously think people use a weapon one time only then come here and cry.

Pistols are not OP. Except maybe the Paladin. 
Snipers on the other hand....

But ARs suck donkey balls and need a serious buff. 

[TexasToast712]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 AR's are fine. Pistols are NOT op. Pistols aren't going to be nerfed. GET OVER IT. I take a AR all the time and do just fine. I seriously think people use a weapon one time only then come here and cry.

Pistols are not OP. Except maybe the Paladin. 


But ARs suck donkey balls and need a serious buff. 

LOL. Paladin isn't OP. It is just a slightly stronger Carnifex. Besides, Phalanx > Carnifex/Paladin. 

It is like the .45 ACP of Mass Effect now. Great balance between firepower, accuracy, and mag size.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 23 mars 2012 - 01:04 .

[Sevrun]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 AR's are fine. Pistols are NOT op. Pistols aren't going to be nerfed. GET OVER IT. I take a AR all the time and do just fine. I seriously think people use a weapon one time only then come here and cry.

Pistols are not OP. Except maybe the Paladin. 


But ARs suck donkey balls and need a serious buff. 

LOL. Paladin isn't OP. It is just a slightly stronger Carnifex. Besides, Phalanx > Carnifex/Paladin. 

It is like the .45 ACP of Mass Effect now. Great balance between firepower, accuracy, and mag size.

+1 for the Toast!

If I pull a pistol, that's the pistol of choice for me for exactly that reason, and I have the Paladin.

P.S. nothing wrong with ARs except the people who can't use them properly

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 AR's are fine. Pistols are NOT op. Pistols aren't going to be nerfed. GET OVER IT. I take a AR all the time and do just fine. I seriously think people use a weapon one time only then come here and cry.

Pistols are not OP. Except maybe the Paladin. 


But ARs suck donkey balls and need a serious buff. 

LOL. Paladin isn't OP. It is just a slightly stronger Carnifex. Besides, Phalanx > Carnifex/Paladin. 

It is like the .45 of Mass Effect now. Great balance between firepower, accuracy, and mag size.

I haven't looked at the Phanlax dps numbers so i can't comment on it.

But the Paladin is silly powerful, and it's weight is silly low. There's no reason not to use it over the carnifex unless your a really bad shot or don't know the location of ammo boxes. It needs a downside. 

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Sevrun wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 AR's are fine. Pistols are NOT op. Pistols aren't going to be nerfed. GET OVER IT. I take a AR all the time and do just fine. I seriously think people use a weapon one time only then come here and cry.

Pistols are not OP. Except maybe the Paladin. 


But ARs suck donkey balls and need a serious buff. 

LOL. Paladin isn't OP. It is just a slightly stronger Carnifex. Besides, Phalanx > Carnifex/Paladin. 

It is like the .45 ACP of Mass Effect now. Great balance between firepower, accuracy, and mag size.

+1 for the Toast!

If I pull a pistol, that's the pistol of choice for me for exactly that reason, and I have the Paladin.

P.S. nothing wrong with ARs except the people who can't use them properly

We've told you exactly whats wrong with ARs multiple times now and why skill has nothing to do with it, you simply just cover your hears and shout "L2play" 

Slow fire weapons are better in literally everyway, does that mean ARs are useless? no. Does it mean they are inferior? Yes. 

[Sevrun]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 AR's are fine. Pistols are NOT op. Pistols aren't going to be nerfed. GET OVER IT. I take a AR all the time and do just fine. I seriously think people use a weapon one time only then come here and cry.

Pistols are not OP. Except maybe the Paladin. 


But ARs suck donkey balls and need a serious buff. 

LOL. Paladin isn't OP. It is just a slightly stronger Carnifex. Besides, Phalanx > Carnifex/Paladin. 

It is like the .45 of Mass Effect now. Great balance between firepower, accuracy, and mag size.

I haven't looked at the Phanlax dps numbers so i can't comment on it.

But the Paladin is silly powerful, and it's weight is silly low. There's no reason not to use it over the carnifex unless your a really bad shot or don't know the location of ammo boxes. It needs a downside. 

Something to keep in mind... those DPS numbers don't account for playstyle.  This is something that occured to me on the drive home, a sniper style player isn't going to get as much use out of a sustained fire weapon as someone who leans outta cover and stays there longer.

  I think that's something we've all been kinda overlooking.