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[Viyu]

Update, apparently there are no new endings, only clarity to the original ones. This will be going in the OP as well, but in case people who have already read the OP don't think to re-read the edit, here it is:

Modifié par Viyu, 24 mars 2012 - 01:23 .

[Spectre_Shepard]

by all means, keep the old endings. they are viable choices.

just add MORE CHOICES. other choices, like telling the ghost to go shove it or something. choices that reflect the full breadth of mass effect

[Vahe]

the tweet that killed bioware

[Viyu]

I'm with Spectre. A lot of people don't want the endings to go away and want them to be expanded upon, but you guys promised distinct and multiple endings--- like, 16 of them IICR. Even if you expand upon all these 3, you've got quite a few more to go.

[RocketManSR2]

There will be those who do not have the ability to meet BioWare halfway on this. They want their way or nothing at all. Well, you have your answer. The endings will be staying in one form or another. You can either rage and leave, or wait & see what BioWare does.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 24 mars 2012 - 01:45 .

[Chrillze]

I think they will keep the endings and release some kind of DLC that takes place after the game and gives you more closure

[MissMaster_2]

Well lets just see...maybe they are only telling us part of it.

[M8DMAN]

We don't need you to clarify anything Bioware. We want a new ending.

[DonYourAviators]

Explaining the ending won't make it any more satisfying.

[Nathan Redgrave]

I don't want new endings, and in any case that's not exactly something you can just patch in. Depending on the quality of the content and the implementation of it, adding clarification and closure is all I really ask... as long as it's good clarification and good closure.

[DeinonSlayer]

Viyu wrote...

Update, apparently there are no new endings, only clarity to the original ones. This will be going in the OP as well, but in case people who have already read the OP don't think to re-read the edit, here it is:

So, Shepard is still going to puss out at the tail end of everything, no matter what?

Wow... I never thought I'd say this, but I just might have to jump on the IT bandwagon. This is too stupid to possibly be real.

Also, just wait until you see it yourself, Adrian... <_<

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 24 mars 2012 - 02:33 .

[ArthurBDD]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

I don't want new endings, and in any case that's not exactly something you can just patch in.

In most contexts, I agree, but in the case of ME3 there's a number of absolutely golden opportunities where the story could shoot off in a different direction at the last minute - Shepard could be Indoctrinated during the "canon" ending so if you avoid that you get alternate endings, Shepard could refuse to play the Catalyst's game and go for a fourth option of his own making at the final crossroads, and so on. There's a wealth of opportunities to branch off from the current ending whilst leaving the ending we have intact.

[Viyu]

Chrillze wrote...

I think they will keep the endings and release some kind of DLC that takes place after the game and gives you more closure

I think what Bioware isn't realizing is that it seems reasonably apparent that most people here don't just want "clarity" and closure. Sure they'd like that for these three endings, but they want more options.

[DeinonSlayer]

Viyu wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

I think they will keep the endings and release some kind of DLC that takes place after the game and gives you more closure

I think what Bioware isn't realizing is that it seems reasonably apparent that most people here don't just want "clarity" and closure. Sure they'd like that for these three endings, but they want more options.

Every poll taken on this site has told them otherwise. Seems to me they've simply chosen to ignore us, and that's fine. They'll get to suffer the consequences when half of their customer base abandons them. I know I don't care to buy DLC just to make the walk off the end of the plank slightly longer.

[-Skorpious-]

Guys, we must remain both and vocal civil and let Bioware know that clarification alone won't slide. A complete rewrite isn't necessary if we are given additional options in the end-game.

Hold the line.

[fantonell79]

History and final in a trilogy of games of 100 hours of play started and finished in 5 years? ok easy:

I am an investor and take you to be an architect, I have to build a building of 200 floors, spend all you want, size, aesthetics, materials, type of room, furniture, facilities, invents the way you want, it's all your choice, get to work whoever you want and how many you want, tell us, become friends, love them, etc.. etc..

you make many sacrifices and make 1000 choices to finish the construction, to finished construction I come and tell you:

well, you're done, congratulations, now choose:
1) destroy the building with the TNT (Red)
2) destroy the building with a fusion bomb (Blue)
3) destroy the building with the acid (Green)

looks at how nice the result!!! no matter how much you will be involved in constructing the building that you wanted, you will remain only an explosion of your favorite color

Your answer is: Well if I knew before I bought a firework in 10 minutes and I saved 5 years of life

unfortunate architect Sheppard

[Launcifer]

fantonell79 wrote...

History and final in a trilogy of games of 100 hours of play started and finished in 5 years? ok easy:

I am an investor and take you to be an architect, I have to build a building of 200 floors, spend all you want, size, aesthetics, materials, type of room, furniture, facilities, invents the way you want, it's all your choice, get to work whoever you want and how many you want, tell us, become friends, love them, etc.. etc..

you make many sacrifices and make 1000 choices to finish the construction, to finished construction I come and tell you:

well, you're done, congratulations, now choose:
1) destroy the building with the TNT (Red)
2) destroy the building with a fusion bomb (Blue)
3) destroy the building with the acid (Green)

looks at how nice the result!!! no matter how much you will be involved in constructing the building that you wanted, you will remain only an explosion of your favorite color

Your answer is: Well if I knew before I bought a firework in 10 minutes and I saved 5 years of life

unfortunate architect Sheppard

Wait, the Catalyst is Howard Roark? Just when I thought things couldn't get any screwier, someone polluted my brain with Ayn Rand?

[DeinonSlayer]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Guys, we must remain both and vocal civil and let Bioware know that clarification alone won't slide. A complete rewrite isn't necessary if we are given additional options in the end-game.

Hold the line.

I think Indoctrination Theory may well be part of the problem. They took one look and thought we were asking for too much revision to bother with.

It would be EASY to add additional options in the end-game. The proposal in my signature adds four of them, ranging from costly victory to total defeat, and all it would take on Bioware's part is a few new lines of dialogue and a few pre-rendered space battle scenes. They wouldn't even need any new maps. 12,000 people have voted on it. Nearly 70% approve of it.

I'm not abandoning the line just yet, but god damn it this is frustrating...

[dreman9999]

Another point to the indoctrination theory..

[fantonell79]

Launcifer wrote...

fantonell79 wrote...

History and final in a trilogy of games of 100 hours of play started and finished in 5 years? ok easy:

I am an investor and take you to be an architect, I have to build a building of 200 floors, spend all you want, size, aesthetics, materials, type of room, furniture, facilities, invents the way you want, it's all your choice, get to work whoever you want and how many you want, tell us, become friends, love them, etc.. etc..

you make many sacrifices and make 1000 choices to finish the construction, to finished construction I come and tell you:

well, you're done, congratulations, now choose:
1) destroy the building with the TNT (Red)
2) destroy the building with a fusion bomb (Blue)
3) destroy the building with the acid (Green)

looks at how nice the result!!! no matter how much you will be involved in constructing the building that you wanted, you will remain only an explosion of your favorite color

Your answer is: Well if I knew before I bought a firework in 10 minutes and I saved 5 years of life

unfortunate architect Sheppard

Wait, the Catalyst is Howard Roark? Just when I thought things couldn't get any screwier, someone polluted my brain with Ayn Rand?

you can't criticize my art, is my IP

[dreman9999]

Viyu wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

I think they will keep the endings and release some kind of DLC that takes place after the game and gives you more closure

I think what Bioware isn't realizing is that it seems reasonably apparent that most people here don't just want "clarity" and closure. Sure they'd like that for these three endings, but they want more options.

Yes, they do...Most of the problem is that know one knows what happened. Making it clear works....And based on what I think may happen....It may blow most peoples minds..

[Deadmac]

BioWare should not alter "Mass Effect's" ending. Regardless about how hard the other side pushes, BioWare should stand firm on their piece of work. When people go into a bookstore, they usually read a book's first chapter before purchasing. How many different types of genre are there? How many offshoots does a genre have? Imagine protesting against every book in existence, for they do not meet a particular person's expecations? Could you imagine the stupidity?

Modifié par Deadmac, 24 mars 2012 - 03:51 .

[Squallypo]

I'm with Spectre. A lot of people don't want the endings to go away and want them to be expanded upon, but you guys promised distinct and multiple endings--- like, 16 of them IICR. Even if you expand upon all these 3, you've got quite a few more to go.

this.

[Alexraptor1]

Deadmac wrote...

BioWare should not alter "Mass Effect's" ending. Regardless about how hard the other side pushes, BioWare should stand firm on their piece of work. When people go into a bookstore, they usually read a book's first chapter before purchasing. How many different types of genre are there? How many offshoots does a genre have? Imagine protesting against every book in existence, for they do not meet a particular person's expecations? Could you imagine the stupidity?

Not a valid comparison, since the problem with ME3's ending is that it just tramples all over what ME was all about.... which is pretty much why the majority of players are pissed.

ME3's problem is that the ending did not live up to the expectations based on Biowares previous works and promises.

[DeinonSlayer]

Deadmac wrote...

BioWare should not alter "Mass Effect's" ending. Regardless about how hard the other side pushes, BioWare should stand firm on their piece of work. When people go into a bookstore, they usually read a book's first chapter before purchasing. How many different types of genre are there? How many offshoots does a genre have? Imagine protesting against every book in existence, for they do not meet a particular person's expecations? Could you imagine the stupidity?

Books are a static medium. You don't shape the outcome. You're not promised on the back cover that your actions will shape the outcome. That said, there's precedent for even books to be changed. Ever heard of Sherlock Holmes?

Bioware can stick by their "art." From the outside, it would appear to be a bad business move to alienate half of your customer base by providing them a product with no replay value, but ultimately, Bioware are the only ones who will pay a real-world price for it in the form of lost business in the future.

They're driving off a cliff. If they choose to ignore our warnings to change course before it's too late, I won't be in the car with them.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 24 mars 2012 - 03:58 .