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#51
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blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/



Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.


It's a poll on a random site where most likely a HUGE portion of the voters never even played the game. That doesn't make you think it's probably a lot more skewed than anything posted in the forum for the game it's about?

#52
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Grasich wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/



Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.


It's a poll on a random site where most likely a HUGE portion of the voters never even played the game. That doesn't make you think it's probably a lot more skewed than anything posted in the forum for the game it's about?


The poll isn't about the quality of the ending; it's about whether or not BioWare should cave into fan pressure and, essentially, re-write their own story.

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. You guys are skewing the results, and it's rather pathetic to be quite honest.

#53
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blacqout wrote...

Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.


Sorry, but this poll, as you can vote as much as you want, has no value. Better skew the results then.

Modifié par Ssation, 22 mars 2012 - 05:48 .


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blacqout wrote...

Grasich wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/



Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.


It's a poll on a random site where most likely a HUGE portion of the voters never even played the game. That doesn't make you think it's probably a lot more skewed than anything posted in the forum for the game it's about?


The poll isn't about the quality of the ending; it's about whether or not BioWare should cave into fan pressure and, essentially, re-write their own story.

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. You guys are skewing the results, and it's rather pathetic to be quite honest.


How dare we vote on a poll when we played the game...? People voting on it who haven't witnessed the atrocity to story telling that is the ending of ME3 will of course not understand why it needs to be changed. ESPECIALLY with a really poorly worded poll that is clearly designed to make people vote "no".

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voted

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A simple yes or no probably would have sufficed... I'm also wondering how many of those voters have finished the game.

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blacqout wrote...

Grasich wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/



Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.


It's a poll on a random site where most likely a HUGE portion of the voters never even played the game. That doesn't make you think it's probably a lot more skewed than anything posted in the forum for the game it's about?


The poll isn't about the quality of the ending; it's about whether or not BioWare should cave into fan pressure and, essentially, re-write their own story.

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. You guys are skewing the results, and it's rather pathetic to be quite honest.


Pointing out the poll to people who have played Mass Effct isn't "skewing the results."

And only people who have played Mass Effect matter in this anyway. People who havn't played it might vote "No its BioWare's story" but if they havn't bought the game anyway BioWare isn't going to profit from listening to them.

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blacqout wrote...

Grasich wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/



Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.


It's a poll on a random site where most likely a HUGE portion of the voters never even played the game. That doesn't make you think it's probably a lot more skewed than anything posted in the forum for the game it's about?


The poll isn't about the quality of the ending; it's about whether or not BioWare should cave into fan pressure and, essentially, re-write their own story.

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. You guys are skewing the results, and it's rather pathetic to be quite honest.


The poll uses leading questions to skew itself. All we are doing is balancing things out. And what, because we are Retakers our opinion doesn't count? The Pro-Ending people have just as much access to it as we do

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Clear your cookies and you can vote again those polls aren't particularly accurate unfortunately.

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1. We're winning

2. The Gamefaqs boards aren't articulate or insightful, it's mostly comprised of 4chan rejects.

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Tbh, I like Gamefaqs ... you just need to avoid the boards ;)

and yea ... we're ahead now, you might wanna change the title OP ;)

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Leading questions. Poll is being directed towards an audience likely to be full of people who have never played the game, and are giving a gut-reaction opinion as if to a generic "should a developer ever change an ending based on fan anger?"

The only polls that work are polls of people who have finished the game or polls that provide an explanation of everything that led to fan complaints, then follow with the questions.

The middle option is a joke, because it assumes there's a way the current ending could even possibly be, "best for the story." The review from the California Literary Review had a great line about the ending being objectively terrible at any level. It is really - objectively - a bad ending. You can't insert a deus ex machina as bad as the Starchild into a game without rendering your previously excellent story into a joke.

Modifié par Tovanus, 22 mars 2012 - 05:58 .


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[quote]Grasich wrote...

[quote]blacqout wrote...

[quote]Grasich wrote...

[quote]blacqout wrote...

[quote]coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/


[/quote]

Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.[/quote]

It's a poll on a random site where most likely a HUGE portion of the voters never even played the game. That doesn't make you think it's probably a lot more skewed than anything posted in the forum for the game it's about?

[/quote]

The poll isn't about the quality of the ending; it's about whether or not BioWare should cave into fan pressure and, essentially, re-write their own story.

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. You guys are skewing the results, and it's rather pathetic to be quite honest.[/quote]

How dare we vote on a poll when we played the game...? People voting on it who haven't witnessed the atrocity to story telling that is the ending of ME3 will of course not understand why it needs to be changed. ESPECIALLY with a really poorly worded poll that is clearly designed to make people vote "no".

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poorly worded poll that is clearly designed to make people vote "no".

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Yes, how dare you. There isn't really any polite way to phrase this so i'll just say it: Can you read?

This poll is not about the quality of the ending. It's about the contoversy and the larger principle. There is nothing wrong with the wording of the poll either, though they could have cut two of the answers.

What this poll is actually asking is:

Should BioWare give the fans what they want, regardless of their thoughts on the story.
Should BioWare give the fans what they want, but only if they feel they can add to the story in a way that doesn't undermine their original vision.
Should BioWare, under no circumstances, allow the fans to dictate what they do with their story.

You do not need to have played the game to have an opinion. It's not about the quality of the finale, and those of you complaining about the lack of a "yes, 'cause it sucks" option are an embarrassment to the Retake movement.

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It's probably about 50/50

Modifié par BigNastE, 22 mars 2012 - 06:02 .


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Liber320 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Grasich wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/



Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.


It's a poll on a random site where most likely a HUGE portion of the voters never even played the game. That doesn't make you think it's probably a lot more skewed than anything posted in the forum for the game it's about?


The poll isn't about the quality of the ending; it's about whether or not BioWare should cave into fan pressure and, essentially, re-write their own story.

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. You guys are skewing the results, and it's rather pathetic to be quite honest.


The poll uses leading questions to skew itself. All we are doing is balancing things out. And what, because we are Retakers our opinion doesn't count? The Pro-Ending people have just as much access to it as we do


The pro-ending people don't have an army of drones to call upon.

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Not sure how 62% voting yes is a loss, but alright.

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blacqout wrote...

The pro-ending people don't have an army of drones to call upon.


For obvious reasons.

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Clear your cookies and you can vote again those polls aren't particularly accurate unfortunately.


Incredible.

Now we know why such a large percentage doesn't like the ending.

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I like how they split "yes" into three different answers to dilute the results.

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Isn't Yes and Probably the same thing?

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blacqout wrote...

You do not need to have played the game to have an opinion. It's not about the quality of the finale, and those of you complaining about the lack of a "yes, 'cause it sucks" option are an embarrassment to the Retake movement.


Yes you do. Because people who haven't played the game probably assumes that this whole thing is a result of fans not liking the way Bioware ended the series, when the truth is that it's about Bioware releasing a faulty, broken ending that contradicts previous promises made by them.

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Important to understand. When reaction taken into consideration, more points often give to negative.

30% unhappy typically generates greater response than 70% content.

50/50 often enough to warrant change.

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blacqout wrote...

Liber320 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Grasich wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/



Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.


It's a poll on a random site where most likely a HUGE portion of the voters never even played the game. That doesn't make you think it's probably a lot more skewed than anything posted in the forum for the game it's about?


The poll isn't about the quality of the ending; it's about whether or not BioWare should cave into fan pressure and, essentially, re-write their own story.

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. You guys are skewing the results, and it's rather pathetic to be quite honest.


The poll uses leading questions to skew itself. All we are doing is balancing things out. And what, because we are Retakers our opinion doesn't count? The Pro-Ending people have just as much access to it as we do


The pro-ending people don't have an army of drones to call upon.


That the pro ending people aren't as popular dosn't mean the anti ending people should be excluded. That'd be dumb.

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sadako wrote...

Isn't Yes and Probably the same thing?


The "yes" answers are:

"Yes, if the fans want it."
"Yes, if the fans want it."
"Yes, if Bioware feels like it."

The top two answers are completely disingeuous. They're the exact same sentiment in different words. Additionally, the bottom two are identical sentiments save for phrasing.

Modifié par Lankist, 22 mars 2012 - 06:06 .


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GamesFAQs? Really? Like the people who vote Link, Cloud, and Sephiroth characters of the year every year are valid sources for this. Don't get me wrong, I love that site, it's helpful, but the polls aren't very good for gathering opinions.