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[FarynUEA]

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/

Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.

Since when was bringing the attention of a poll concerning a video game, to the audience of that video game, skewing the results.

I'd say the 50000 odd people registering on the Retake FB page and the $78000 raised for charity in the name of that movement paints an accurate picture of player reaction.
 

You posted this thread so those that share your views could manipulate the results.

It's interesting that a significant portion of those 50,000 players didn't donate. I strongly suspect that the movement is quite so strong, and that many people signed up multiple times under different names. Just as you clear your cache and vote twice on opinion polls.

Wow and people call us Retakers Paranoid ...

[robarcool]

That poll is just a lame attempt to give EA PR the data they can use to show that fans are devoid of logic and shouldn't be listened to. The poll has options that tend to portrait the retake moment as an illogical and emotionally driven campaign with no basis.

[blacqout]

coolbeans wrote...

blacqout wrote...

anlk92 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

You do not need to have played the game to have an opinion. It's not about the quality of the finale, and those of you complaining about the lack of a "yes, 'cause it sucks" option are an embarrassment to the Retake movement.

Yes you do. Because people who haven't played the game probably assumes that this whole thing is a result of fans not liking the way Bioware ended the series, when the truth is that it's about Bioware releasing a faulty, broken ending that contradicts previous promises made by them.

No, you don't. You may like to think of yourself as horribly misunderstood, but trust me when i say that anyone who follows gaming is intimately aware of your issues.

The first answer on the poll sums up your thoughts quite succinctly.

Anyway, thanks for posting this thread OP. It has proven that the Retake movement is full of poor readers and cheats.

Congrats, Sweeping statements make arguments good, right?

Enough people in this thread have shown themselves to be either stupid, or willing to manipulate opinion polls using underhanded tactics, to make my statement correct.

I didn't say that everyone in the movement was like you, but i have a big enough sample size to estimate that many are.

[Blarghonk]

MissNet wrote...

it's strange poll.
i managed to vote twice o_O

Yup, throws any integrity out the window.

[robarcool]

I will say don't vote on that poll if you want to maintain the retake movement's integrity. That poll is just not worth it to give our opinion to.

[coolbeans]

pomrink wrote...

It appears we are winning

No blacqout caught me out with his mindreading skills, I've done nothing but sit here all afternoon, clearing cache and voting to bump up the results in favour of Retake

Well played good sir, well played;)

[Ghost of a Messiah]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

Rickin10 wrote...

What a sh*t poll. Doesn't give you decent options, like, 'yes I think they should change it because it's an atrocity.'

Yeah, it sort of seems to be taking the 'art' defense. Either users demand it and they should get it, or Bioware can do what they'd like and keep their integrity. No 'they should change it or clarify it so that it makes some sense within the lore that they themselves created' option.

Fine if the game is simply art then let it be viewed as art... Just put it on display for everyone as is done with art... But don't try to sell anyone art under false pretenses..

[MassEffecter132]

We be winning now

[HWM BlacKnight]

I voted, kind of biased poll though :/

[blacqout]

coolbeans wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/

Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.

Since when was bringing the attention of a poll concerning a video game, to the audience of that video game, skewing the results.

I'd say the 50000 odd people registering on the Retake FB page and the $78000 raised for charity in the name of that movement paints an accurate picture of player reaction.
 

You posted this thread so those that share your views could manipulate the results.

It's interesting that a significant portion of those 50,000 players didn't donate. I strongly suspect that the movement is quite so strong, and that many people signed up multiple times under different names. Just as you clear your cache and vote twice on opinion polls.

Ok then, back that up with some proof and we'll be getting somewhere, if the movement is not so strong then I'm sure the people content with the endings can vote in that poll and even out the results

As Mordin would say: No proof, but theory fits evidence.

You posted a thread in which to rally the troops in order to manipulate an opinion poll. Several members admitted to finding ways to vote more than once. You are actively attempting to give your movement a bigger voice than it actually has... so why wouldn't you do similar things to bolster your numbers?

Modifié par blacqout, 22 mars 2012 - 06:26 .

[Ghost of a Messiah]

robarcool wrote...

I will say don't vote on that poll if you want to maintain the retake movement's integrity. That poll is just not worth it to give our opinion to.

Especially sice that site is clearly not creditable. They just do what they're paid to do. They don't really care about gamers.

[Terumitsu]

Another thing about the poll is that it is open to all people and not just those who played ME3. So, the data they are collecting is going to be skewed anyway based on the fact that any regular joe can hit a button. It is not representative of the groups it tries to, well, represent.

[coolbeans]

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/

Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.

Since when was bringing the attention of a poll concerning a video game, to the audience of that video game, skewing the results.

I'd say the 50000 odd people registering on the Retake FB page and the $78000 raised for charity in the name of that movement paints an accurate picture of player reaction.
 

You posted this thread so those that share your views could manipulate the results.

It's interesting that a significant portion of those 50,000 players didn't donate. I strongly suspect that the movement is quite so strong, and that many people signed up multiple times under different names. Just as you clear your cache and vote twice on opinion polls.

Ok then, back that up with some proof and we'll be getting somewhere, if the movement is not so strong then I'm sure the people content with the endings can vote in that poll and even out the results

As Mordin would say: No proof, but theory fits evidence.

You posted a thread in which to rally the troops in order to manipulate an opinion poll. Several members admitted to finding ways to vote more than once. You are actively attempting to give your movement a bigger voice than it actually has... so why wouldn't you do similar things to bolster your numbers?

I just skimmed through the thread again, and I can't see anyone advocating multiple votes, merely stating it was possible to do so.

[Jamber]

So, I've voted twice now. I now know this poll is crap. I only have to keep voting to keep the people who want to twist it in the favor that we're the "minority".

[NReed106]

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Results are a little squif as the poll has a few maye/probably options that when added to the definites balance out,  but come on guys, get clicking

www.gamefaqs.com/

Pardon me, but are you drawing attention to this poll so that those "holding the line" can rally together and skew the results of that poll?

You're the reason the various polls and surveys on the Mass Effect 3 ending don't paint an accurate picture of player reacton. Kudos.

Since when was bringing the attention of a poll concerning a video game, to the audience of that video game, skewing the results.

I'd say the 50000 odd people registering on the Retake FB page and the $78000 raised for charity in the name of that movement paints an accurate picture of player reaction.
 

You posted this thread so those that share your views could manipulate the results.

It's interesting that a significant portion of those 50,000 players didn't donate. I strongly suspect that the movement is quite so strong, and that many people signed up multiple times under different names. Just as you clear your cache and vote twice on opinion polls.

Ok then, back that up with some proof and we'll be getting somewhere, if the movement is not so strong then I'm sure the people content with the endings can vote in that poll and even out the results

As Mordin would say: No proof, but theory fits evidence.

You posted a thread in which to rally the troops in order to manipulate an opinion poll. Several members admitted to finding ways to vote more than once. You are actively attempting to give your movement a bigger voice than it actually has... so why wouldn't you do similar things to bolster your numbers?

Yes we have voted 11k times on a poll, I think someone is projecting.....

But tell me, why should I take the poll seriously with a biased question prompt? 

Modifié par NReed106, 22 mars 2012 - 06:31 .

[pavi132]

There is nothing scientific about that poll. It is inconsequential. It has no credibility whatsoever so who cares what it says?

[coolbeans]

Jamber wrote...

So, I've voted twice now. I now know this poll is crap. I only have to keep voting to keep the people who want to twist it in the favor that we're the "minority".

Lol, timing is everything buddy

[Blarghonk]

blacqout wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

blacqout wrote...

anlk92 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

You do not need to have played the game to have an opinion. It's not about the quality of the finale, and those of you complaining about the lack of a "yes, 'cause it sucks" option are an embarrassment to the Retake movement.

Yes you do. Because people who haven't played the game probably assumes that this whole thing is a result of fans not liking the way Bioware ended the series, when the truth is that it's about Bioware releasing a faulty, broken ending that contradicts previous promises made by them.

No, you don't. You may like to think of yourself as horribly misunderstood, but trust me when i say that anyone who follows gaming is intimately aware of your issues.

The first answer on the poll sums up your thoughts quite succinctly.

Anyway, thanks for posting this thread OP. It has proven that the Retake movement is full of poor readers and cheats.

Congrats, Sweeping statements make arguments good, right?

Enough people in this thread have shown themselves to be either stupid, or willing to manipulate opinion polls using underhanded tactics, to make my statement correct.

I didn't say that everyone in the movement was like you, but i have a big enough sample size to estimate that many are.

The bold could easily be said about either side, but thanks for prejudging every one on in a group because of some individuals. I've talked to pleny people on both sides that have had intelligent and compelling arguments.

No I do not want a "yes cus it sucks option" I want a "yes because they flat out lied about the ending" as demonstrated in the link in my sig. I still think they're trolling us and have already had the ending cut for dlc, but we'll fnd out in April, apparently.

And no they are not "intimately aware" of our issues as observed in posts by IGN and the likes. It has nothing to do with artistic integrity or the ending just being bad, atleast imho, but more about the promises they didn't deliver on.

Modifié par Blarghonk, 22 mars 2012 - 06:32 .

[KingNothing125]

lol internet poll.

[Sean]

Problem with that poll is that a lot of people who  haven't played the game will just think Bioware is right since they don't know the context.

[Zardoc]

Wow, prolly the only poll where the "yes, ending needs to be remade" isn't winning by a huge margin (but winning nonetheless). Such significance...

Modifié par Zardoc, 22 mars 2012 - 06:33 .

[blacqout]

Terumitsu wrote...

Another thing about the poll is that it is open to all people and not just those who played ME3. So, the data they are collecting is going to be skewed anyway based on the fact that any regular joe can hit a button. It is not representative of the groups it tries to, well, represent.

No. It's about the larger issue. You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion.

[Christianswe]

Voted. But i know most of the fans want the ending fixed. For different reasons, but somehow the same. We all hold a deep love for the mass effect universe.

[Silveralen]

Ok guys, personal favor? Anything over 4 quotes, start clearing out some of the inner ones. It just gets a bit unwieldy.

[brusher225]

I'm not buying it, Something is screwy with that poll. No way is it that close,