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[RocketManSR2]

Why should anyone have to justify their opinion?

- TC, you're implying it's criminal in some way to like the ending.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 22 mars 2012 - 05:45 .

[Siegdrifa]

Please, op, this is a non spoiler forum and you actively asking about what people liked in the ending, ask you thread to be move on the spoiler section.

[jamesp81]

Anaki86 wrote...

I enjoyed the endings. I will also enjoy any ending DLC that Bioware will produce.

Why do you like them?

The point of this thread is to learn why people liked these endings, not that they did like them.

[I TV Casualty I]

Why did I like the ending?

Indoc Theory.

[Samtheman63]

No one can say why they liked the ending without spoilers

[Murkman4683]

The ending is the ending, it is a game, what else has to be said. Is that not enough, we were delivered a product, we are now finished with that product, end of story.

[Anaki86]

Icemix wrote...

Anaki86 wrote...

I enjoyed the endings. I will also enjoy any ending DLC that Bioware will produce.

Why? I would like to see your POV.

One of the things that I liked about the endings was that the three choices were not merely paragon/renegade choices. As I saw it each choice could be justified for either a paragon or renegade character based on the players own personal viewpoint. For example, one of my friends chose Destroy for his paragon whereas I chose Synthesis for mine. After talking we discovered that our Renegade characters would be the oposite: Synthesis for his and Destroy for mine.

If you have any particular aspects of the end just ask and I'll give you my POV.

[wileydsp]

This is the wrong place for this thread unfortunately. I found an ending to the game that I enjoyed. I went middle, and I think it was more along the lines of this kept all groups involved intact in some way, and I didn't want to separate my pilot from where he wanted to be. I also found that ending to be interesting. I wasn't going in depths to look for exactly what it meant, simply because I'm not going to immediately judge anything until all the DLC packages are released and the true next step for the Universe is revealed. The ending scene did make me smile, since really I was looking for two interested individuals to stay together, and my LI to remain alive. Overall, was I blown away by the endings provided? Not really, but I also found one that I can relate to. I can say that the action my Shep took was something that I would have done. Unfortunately a lot of people can't say the same as me to which I do find unfortunate and is why I support paying for additional DLC to satisfy that segment of the community.

[Icemix]

Murkman4683 wrote...

The ending is the ending, it is a game, what else has to be said. Is that not enough, we were delivered a product, we are now finished with that product, end of story.

We were promised something in that product, it was not delivered. People have all the rights to be mad about it and to demand what was advartised.

[Overule]

Anaki86 wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Anaki86 wrote...

I enjoyed the endings. I will also enjoy any ending DLC that Bioware will produce.

Why? I would like to see your POV.

One of the things that I liked about the endings was that the three choices were not merely paragon/renegade choices. As I saw it each choice could be justified for either a paragon or renegade character based on the players own personal viewpoint. For example, one of my friends chose Destroy for his paragon whereas I chose Synthesis for mine. After talking we discovered that our Renegade characters would be the oposite: Synthesis for his and Destroy for mine.

If you have any particular aspects of the end just ask and I'll give you my POV.

So you like that the choices were completely out of left field and can work for any Shepard? Not trying to belittle you, but that's what I'm hearing...

[Murkman4683]

Most people are afraid to post anything remotely close to an explanation, because this said "camp" of yours is ready to jump down their throats.

Look at the boards, every thread, every forum is occupied by aggressive posters looking for a fight.

[He4vyMet4l]

I never said the HTL camp was full of angels. It's not the purpose of this topic.

All I get from this is those who like it either don't care (or just hate on the haters) or like the idea of indoct theory. None of them give thought to the consequences of it.

[Murkman4683]

Icemix wrote...

Murkman4683 wrote...

The ending is the ending, it is a game, what else has to be said. Is that not enough, we were delivered a product, we are now finished with that product, end of story.

We were promised something in that product, it was not delivered. People have all the rights to be mad about it and to demand what was advartised.

95% of the people just don't care, there is a reason 50,000 voters voted on the ending poll, beacuse those are all the users of BSN.  The rest of the group that have completed ME3 are fine with it, or just do not care to post on the forums, because in all honestly this is a massive time sink.

[Dragoonlordz]

Link is in my signature which leads to my reasons why I loved it. A large and popular thread in which I go into extreme detail and answer some questions for clarification. Be aware it contains large spoilers and I do mean large.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 mars 2012 - 05:30 .

[wileydsp]

He4vyMet4l wrote...

I never said the HTL camp was full of angels. It's not the purpose of this topic.

All I get from this is those who like it either don't care (or just hate on the haters) or like the idea of indoct theory. None of them give thought to the consequences of it.

I like the indoc theory.  I think it's a very interesting twist, but I don't need it to be that or something else different from what we've got already.  Maybe it's the years of Half life and never really having endings for those games, and then waiting a gagillion years for the next installment.  I think that some people just relate to the endings provided in ME3 a little more then others.  Some people need to have thier version of closure in front of them for satisfaction.  That's perfectly acceptable and I understand it.  I found closure of my own in what we were given.  If/when they release DLC I'll jump at it just because I love the universe and want more of it in the basic sense, and also that I would like to experience what they create be it new endings or mid point story-missions.  

[Mylia Stenetch]

wileydsp wrote...

This is the wrong place for this thread unfortunately. I found an ending to the game that I enjoyed. I went middle, and I think it was more along the lines of this kept all groups involved intact in some way, and I didn't want to separate my pilot from where he wanted to be. I also found that ending to be interesting. I wasn't going in depths to look for exactly what it meant, simply because I'm not going to immediately judge anything until all the DLC packages are released and the true next step for the Universe is revealed. The ending scene did make me smile, since really I was looking for two interested individuals to stay together, and my LI to remain alive. Overall, was I blown away by the endings provided? Not really, but I also found one that I can relate to. I can say that the action my Shep took was something that I would have done. Unfortunately a lot of people can't say the same as me to which I do find unfortunate and is why I support paying for additional DLC to satisfy that segment of the community.

While I did not choose the Green, I went Red in my ending. It would of been the choice I made and was how I felt walking into the game (not cause of it being Renegade, since I was a mix). I felt emotion of loss, and some glee for who I did see at the end, one being my LI. Also just from my own cynism and seeing how recent trends in games went I knew there would be DLC coming down the pipe.

While some of the ending points left me scratching my head, I knew there would be DLC to brings this more into light. Still what I got for an ending worked for me in the mean time till the everything has been released for the game. 

[Icemix]

Murkman4683 wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Murkman4683 wrote...

The ending is the ending, it is a game, what else has to be said. Is that not enough, we were delivered a product, we are now finished with that product, end of story.

We were promised something in that product, it was not delivered. People have all the rights to be mad about it and to demand what was advartised.

95% of the people just don't care, there is a reason 50,000 voters voted on the ending poll, beacuse those are all the users of BSN.  The rest of the group that have completed ME3 are fine with it, or just do not care to post on the forums, because in all honestly this is a massive time sink.

When 95% of the users are not happy with it, there is clearly something wrong with it. Still,people who like it are entitled to their opinion.

[Anaki86]

Overule wrote...

Anaki86 wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Anaki86 wrote...

I enjoyed the endings. I will also enjoy any ending DLC that Bioware will produce.

Why? I would like to see your POV.

One of the things that I liked about the endings was that the three choices were not merely paragon/renegade choices. As I saw it each choice could be justified for either a paragon or renegade character based on the players own personal viewpoint. For example, one of my friends chose Destroy for his paragon whereas I chose Synthesis for mine. After talking we discovered that our Renegade characters would be the oposite: Synthesis for his and Destroy for mine.

If you have any particular aspects of the end just ask and I'll give you my POV.

So you like that the choices were completely out of left field and can work for any Shepard? Not trying to belittle you, but that's what I'm hearing...

Haha, I don't think you're belittling me. It's a good question. Actually I would only argue that the Synthesis ending came out of left field. The entire game we were looking for a way to destroy the Reapers and T.I.M. was looking for a way to control them. So those two made a lot of sense to me. And yes, I liked that (depending on your POV) each ending could work for a Shepard of any alignment. 

[OdanUrr]

Murkman4683 wrote...

There are camps now? Isn't this just a game? A majority of these people/gamers who play ME, play to beat the game and move on. There is no need for an explanation, they are gamers, they play to beat games, that is their goal. This doesn't mean that they are not of a fan of the ME series, with the way society works, most people are ready to consume the next hot title. The game ends and you move on, good or bad, just another notch in the belt.

Plus, 90% of the players do not have time to troll the boards and swift through the BSN forums.

That is the sad reality, yes.

EDIT: And what is HTL and EOTL? Is it something along the lines of "hold the line" and "end of the line"?

Modifié par OdanUrr, 22 mars 2012 - 05:36 .

[Adanu]

ANd then when people actually talk you and everyone else can flame them and belittle them? No thanks.

[Icemix]

Adanu wrote...

ANd then when people actually talk you and everyone else can flame them and belittle them? No thanks.

So wait, people who are dissatisfied with the ending can post their reasons and get flamed, but the ones that like the ending can't post their reasons because they are afraid of being flamed? What?

[o Ventus]

Icemix wrote...

Adanu wrote...

ANd then when people actually talk you and everyone else can flame them and belittle them? No thanks.

So wait, people who are dissatisfied with the ending can post their reasons and get flamed, but the ones that like the ending can't post their reasons because they are afraid of being flamed? What?

Everyone is inherently a hypocrite, in some form.

[The Razman]

I'm not going to pretend I speak for everyone, but personally ... I like the endings because they reveal a brilliant irony about the Reapers and their motivations, the end didn't play out to any stereotypical "kill a boss and celebrate" tropes, the series ended by giving me a decision which affects the entire Mass Effect universe in a major way that games are usually scared of offering to their players, and above all ... it was emotional in a bittersweet, powerful way. That music, saying goodbye to the characters (especially Sheperd himself), so many games don't get that moment right. Mass Effect did.

I also believe that most of the arguments against the ending being riddled with plotholes hold little weight.

So that's my opinion. What's wrong with it?

[Gilmadel]

Without spoiling anything in this forum, this is the best review that I have read thus far that explains why I liked the ending: http://social.biowar...8945/36#9854511

Modifié par Gilmadel, 22 mars 2012 - 05:48 .

[redplague]

I liked the endings and I disliked the endings, so I don't consider myself in a particular camp. I'll explain each of these opinions.

I liked the ending in a purist kind of way without considering the whole 'choices matter' issue. The ending had an emotional effect on me, I can't say to much about why because this is a non spolier forum but basically I thought that the ending was one of the best endings I've seen in a game, book or film concerning Sheperd and her/his sacrifice.

Why I didn't like the ending is easier to explain and that is from the point of view that the whole of being able to import your characters was because of choices, which obviously did not happen. Also there was the Normandy plot hole, the catalysts reason for the Reapers doing what they do (which was less convincing that George Lucas's reason for Anakin Skywalker becoming a mass muderer), and the lack of a Dragon Age style epilogue explaining your effect on the different races.