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[Erixxxx]

He4vyMet4l wrote...

I'm not asking for spoilers. Just clarification about thier stance.

Some of us believe in Bioware when they say we wouldn't react like this if we knew what was coming.

[The Razman]

Overule wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Overule wrote...

Alright here's why that argument bothers me: there shouldn't be endings that work any kind of Shepard. Bioware kept on promising us a variety of unique endings, but they wrapped up the series in a fashion that leaves the galaxy at large basically unchanged.

... what game were you playing, exactly ...?

The one where the ultimate fate of the galaxy is to fate out into a credits screen followed by a brief and destructive lightshow. Also well done quoting one part of a larger post out of context and using it to defame someone's integrity.

I'm not trying to defame anyone ... I'm just saying I can't believe you actually typed the sentence that I highlighted. Nobody can possibly say that the galaxy is unchanged at the end of the game.

[Mixon]

My friend liked ending... But he didn't ever played ME... 3 part was his first game, and he also was not interested in dialogues or relations in game... So my opinion is, those who liked the ending are not really interested in this universe.

[OdanUrr]

The Razman wrote...

Overule wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Overule wrote...

Alright here's why that argument bothers me: there shouldn't be endings that work any kind of Shepard. Bioware kept on promising us a variety of unique endings, but they wrapped up the series in a fashion that leaves the galaxy at large basically unchanged.

... what game were you playing, exactly ...?

The one where the ultimate fate of the galaxy is to fate out into a credits screen followed by a brief and destructive lightshow. Also well done quoting one part of a larger post out of context and using it to defame someone's integrity.

I'm not trying to defame anyone ... I'm just saying I can't believe you actually typed the sentence that I highlighted. Nobody can possibly say that the galaxy is unchanged at the end of the game.

I think we can all agree on that count.

[Dragoonlordz]

Mixon wrote...

My friend liked ending... But he didn't ever played ME... 3 part was his first game, and he also was not interested in dialogues or relations in game... So my opinion is, those who liked the ending are not really interested in this universe.

http://social.biowar...0053/3#10463695

[MingWolf]

I didn't like the ending, but I found it moderately acceptable. It didn't make the most sense in the world, but I felt it was reasonably emotional and made an impact. I have also seen worst game endings. So...

[Tazzmission]

i have a question?


why does it matter at all if someone does like it?

[Anaki86]

Mixon wrote...

My friend liked ending... But he didn't ever played ME... 3 part was his first game, and he also was not interested in dialogues or relations in game... So my opinion is, those who liked the ending are not really interested in this universe.

Concerning your friend I would say that is true, but not for everyone. I am an avid Mass Effect fan and I liked the ending quite a bit. 

[Dragoonlordz]

MingWolf wrote...

I didn't like the ending, but I found it moderately acceptable. It didn't make the most sense in the world, but I felt it was reasonably emotional and made an impact. I have also seen worst game endings. So...

I liked it but I agree with the latter part of your statement bolded. The elements that were not treated like a wiki of information actually sparked imagination (which is a good thing and something present since the dawn of these forums and in/about every title and franchise Bioware has created).

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 mars 2012 - 06:48 .

[xsdob]

The endings were emotionally satisfying to me, seeing my shepard finally end the wars and break the cycle was very gratifying. The stuff with the catalyst wasn't really that far out there to me, and everything he says right before the synthetics worked well, the reapers preserved life in the form of reapers and let others grow up to become more advanced civilizations. In a way, there is one hidden reason and one circumstantial reason, more advance civilizations impose their will on others and stifle innovations or change (Prothean Imperialism, Council Not admitting new species onto the council, ETC.), Their innovations up to that point help give the reapers a means of changing themselves, but if left unchecked they would stagnate and eventually create an artificial race that would surpass them and might destroy all the life in the galaxy. ;

Remember that the reapers target only the races on the verge of stagnation and AI creation, while leaving the rest alone, in essence they are farming civilizations to be viable for them. Letting them stay too long would have them rot and become useless, or have them get an infestation that could jeopardize all the crops, but harvesting them too early would result in the products being too substandard for use. And they have kept this balance of harvesting species at just the right time to get a pretty good estimate of when civilizations might be on the verge of dooming everyone, after all, quarians had just finished a 300 year old war with the geth, and various human initiatives had resulted in dangerous AI's to be set lose on the galaxy.

Of course, the reapers are partially to blame for this because it is there relay technology that helps spur the possibility of synthetics being made, but it is also necessary to get races to develop correctly and help the reapers upgrade themselves. It's a paradox they don't realize until the crucible forcibly makes them realize the mistake they've made by repeating this cycle over and over again. Than the catalyst, which I understood to be the collective of the reapers taking a form that suited the writers intent for portraying the reapers as naive, gives the one who made it possible for them to see the errors of their ways, Shepard, the ability to choose how the cycle is broken. In all the circumstances, the reapers see the fact that it is the relays that have attributed to the problems, and their own need to impose their will on the galaxy as the source of organics stagnating and destroying other civilizations, and destroy them.

The only problem I have is the normandy scene, I can't explain that no matter how hard I try, so I would like something that at least explains why the normandy crashes, or why it was damaged and running away.

Or, as so many have tried and label it, LOTS OF SPECULATION!!! But I'm okay with that, after all, I'm a brony and that community is 80% speculation.

[Anaki86]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

MingWolf wrote...

I didn't like the ending, but I found it moderately acceptable. It didn't make the most sense in the world, but I felt it was reasonably emotional and made an impact. I have also seen worst game endings. So...

I liked it but I agree with the latter part of your statement bolded. The elements that were not treated like a wiki of information actually sparked imagination (which is a good thing and something present since the dawn of these forums and in/about every title and franchise Bioware has created).

I also agree with the bolded statement.

[Erixxxx]

Anaki86 wrote...

Mixon wrote...

My friend liked ending... But he didn't ever played ME... 3 part was his first game, and he also was not interested in dialogues or relations in game... So my opinion is, those who liked the ending are not really interested in this universe.

Concerning your friend I would say that is true, but not for everyone. I am an avid Mass Effect fan and I liked the ending quite a bit. 

I'm in the same boat as you on this one. The ending wasn't perfect, but I think it still did a good job of ending what the trilogy was all about. Stopping the Reapers. Plus Bioware has almost free reigns with how the galaxy would look in the future now.

[kalle90]

djarlaks10 wrote...

kalle90 wrote...

Well, it could have been way worse.

Get into the Citadel, try to push Doomsday-button, (Fight Big Boss), Push the button, Win, Party, Credits. That would have been way lamer.

Yes, because having an option (remember, we were promised different endings based on our choices) for a happy ending makes you totally non-cool in your friends' eyes huh?

I didn't say anything about options. I would have liked if there were 100 complex endings that take a huge number of variables in account, assuming it's balanced well and the best endings aren't easy to get.

But if I have to choose the current or that example I stated then I rather have the current. Gears 3 for one had very bland ending no one remembers. Atleast ME3 did something risky (assuming this is the final ending, though I also hope this isn't the very final ending)

[He4vyMet4l]

Dragoonlordz wrote...



http://social.biowar...0053/3#10463695

No disrespect for your opinion, but that is full of your own interpertaion. Some of it, like the one on future space travel can be used for other things. That it fits well with your own imagination is besides the point, even if the indoct theory is true.

Also, in my heart, I also trust Bioware. However, somewhere else I also think that their response is because they had no plans to take this further. This was supposed to be the end, after all.

Edit:
Also, this is not a story about the Mass Effect universe and it's inhabitants. It's about Commander Shepard.

Modifié par He4vyMet4l, 22 mars 2012 - 06:54 .

[Erixxxx]

Anaki86 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

MingWolf wrote...

I didn't like the ending, but I found it moderately acceptable. It didn't make the most sense in the world, but I felt it was reasonably emotional and made an impact. I have also seen worst game endings. So...

I liked it but I agree with the latter part of your statement bolded. The elements that were not treated like a wiki of information actually sparked imagination (which is a good thing and something present since the dawn of these forums and in/about every title and franchise Bioware has created).

I also agree with the bolded statement.

This one as well. I actually appreciate it when an ending challenges the mind. It's a good exercise, and I believe Bioware when they say we haven't seen the last of the Mass Effect universe. It may take a handful of years, but I have no doubt that we'll see something down the line that expands upon the ending of this game.

[Anaki86]

Erixxxx wrote...

Anaki86 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

MingWolf wrote...

I didn't like the ending, but I found it moderately acceptable. It didn't make the most sense in the world, but I felt it was reasonably emotional and made an impact. I have also seen worst game endings. So...

I liked it but I agree with the latter part of your statement bolded. The elements that were not treated like a wiki of information actually sparked imagination (which is a good thing and something present since the dawn of these forums and in/about every title and franchise Bioware has created).

I also agree with the bolded statement.

This one as well. I actually appreciate it when an ending challenges the mind. It's a good exercise, and I believe Bioware when they say we haven't seen the last of the Mass Effect universe. It may take a handful of years, but I have no doubt that we'll see something down the line that expands upon the ending of this game.

I believe (though I can't confirm) that they also hinted that it wouldn't be a bad idea to hang on to our ME3 saves.

[He4vyMet4l]

^There is nothing philosophical at all the excuses being made to explain the plot holes. The phylosophy is only there when you choose between three colors. After that it makes no sense.

[AkiKishi]

Erixxxx wrote...

Anaki86 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

MingWolf wrote...

I didn't like the ending, but I found it moderately acceptable. It didn't make the most sense in the world, but I felt it was reasonably emotional and made an impact. I have also seen worst game endings. So...

I liked it but I agree with the latter part of your statement bolded. The elements that were not treated like a wiki of information actually sparked imagination (which is a good thing and something present since the dawn of these forums and in/about every title and franchise Bioware has created).

I also agree with the bolded statement.

This one as well. I actually appreciate it when an ending challenges the mind. It's a good exercise, and I believe Bioware when they say we haven't seen the last of the Mass Effect universe. It may take a handful of years, but I have no doubt that we'll see something down the line that expands upon the ending of this game.

Although XXX is gone in every case, the results of the colours are very different even if you don't see the implications. They will have to pick a canon choice (most likely red) because every colour would require a different Mass Effect 4.

This means either Bioware will completely ignore how you ended ME3, or have to go into prequels.

[MongoChuck]

warriorN7 wrote...

i'm tired of people and there different opinions

Welcome to democracy Kim Jong-Il

[Dragoonlordz]

He4vyMet4l wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...



http://social.biowar...0053/3#10463695

No disrespect for your opinion, but that is full of your own interpertaion. Some of it, like the one on future space travel can be used for other things. That it fits well with your own imagination is besides the point, even if the indoct theory is true.

Also, in my heart, I also trust Bioware. However, somewhere else I also think that their response is because they had no plans to take this further. This was supposed to be the end, after all.

Edit:
Also, this is not a story about the Mass Effect universe and it's inhabitants. It's about Commander Shepard.

Everything you say or I say about what you or I did and did not see is our own personal interpretation of what we saw. If you have something against personal interpretation and anothers perspective based on imagination or perception then why did you bother creating this thread and ask question which have to rely on such. The story is also about what I wish for it to be about as the player through subjective opinion.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 mars 2012 - 07:00 .

[Da_Lion_Man]

I don't like to be put in a "camp", sorry OP.

The ending has severe flaws but there were some good things:

The graphical presentation was good
Anderson scene is poignant
Best of all: the music, it was great
I also like the mystery of it, though perhaps it was too mysterious for its own good

[Erixxxx]

He4vyMet4l wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...



http://social.biowar...0053/3#10463695

No disrespect for your opinion, but that is full of your own interpertaion. Some of it, like the one on future space travel can be used for other things. That it fits well with your own imagination is besides the point, even if the indoct theory is true.

Also, in my heart, I also trust Bioware. However, somewhere else I also think that their response is because they had no plans to take this further. This was supposed to be the end, after all.

Edit:
Also, this is not a story about the Mass Effect universe and it's inhabitants. It's about Commander Shepard.

The bolded part is definitely what I believe as well. This was the end of a trilogy, which wrapped up the storyline in that trilogy. And I honestly hope they don't change it.

Which leads me to the underlined part. Truer words have not been spoken since this whole mess began. These games were about Shepard stopping the Reapers. And in the end he did just that.

[MongoChuck]

I doubt that most people have actually played the game twice. So judging the game from one single gameplay is like an American police officer shooting at sight.

[Erixxxx]

Anaki86 wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...

Anaki86 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

MingWolf wrote...

I didn't like the ending, but I found it moderately acceptable. It didn't make the most sense in the world, but I felt it was reasonably emotional and made an impact. I have also seen worst game endings. So...

I liked it but I agree with the latter part of your statement bolded. The elements that were not treated like a wiki of information actually sparked imagination (which is a good thing and something present since the dawn of these forums and in/about every title and franchise Bioware has created).

I also agree with the bolded statement.

This one as well. I actually appreciate it when an ending challenges the mind. It's a good exercise, and I believe Bioware when they say we haven't seen the last of the Mass Effect universe. It may take a handful of years, but I have no doubt that we'll see something down the line that expands upon the ending of this game.

I believe (though I can't confirm) that they also hinted that it wouldn't be a bad idea to hang on to our ME3 saves.

That too. They have stated it several times. I'm definitely not letting go of mine, I truly believe they have amazing things in store for us.

[Iamnotahater]

I thought the ending was homage to Craig Dykstra.