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[MongoChuck]

AlanC9 wrote...

He4vyMet4l wrote...

MongoChuck wrote...
There are a lot of people who keep talking about plot holes. Most of them are because of the information was given in ME2 or from your companions in ME3. I liked the endings from my first playthrough but had no idea what the hell was going on to be honest, untill I played the game for the second time and played ME2 again. There are a lot dots and strings to put together but they all give you an insight on a scale that most people can't from a single gameplay or only by playing ME3.

Are you actually saying that if I play all the games, there are no plot holes at the end?

That'd be a first for Bio. Or any other game company.

I think they created the codex', DLC's and side quests for the purpose of filling out the holes.

[Sharn01]

There is no pro ending movement, there is just the change the ending movement and the anti change the ending movement.

[Radwar]

This video will answer your question:



And this video starting from 18:10


Shows this was planned all along.

[wileydsp]

Sharn01 wrote...

There is no pro ending movement, there is just the change the ending movement and the anti change the ending movement.

There in is the problem for me.  The idea of a "movement" is very strong akin to equal rights and women's suffrage.  This is a video game with an ending that doesn't satisfy a portion of it's community at the end of the day.  Are movements really truly the best way to go about things?  I truly hope that these movements don't jeapordize the quality of BioWare's next title, or the future content for this game. 

[MongoChuck]

To talk about the ending. None of the endings are considered "Good" or "Bad" it's up to you to decide.
The Reapers are an instrument of balance. The synthetics play a major part of the ME-trilogy. Almost wiping out the Protheans themselves and the Quarians, in The Metacon War and The Geth War. The Reapers sort to restore balance to the galaxy by killing the intelligent life forms and by doing that removing any possible threat of synthetics destroying the galaxy. Morbid indeed. This is explained by The Child, Javik about The Metacon War, The Geth War is from Tali and codex'.
Since Shepard entered The Citadel/Crucible he is left with the choices of either destroying the Reapers and thereby "dooming the galaxy", wiping out intelligent life forms, become synthetics or by taking control of the synthetics. The control thing is the least morbid one and therefor portrait as Paragon. While the Destroy the Reapers to save your own skin is Renegade which will have dire consequences when the synthetics return to glory. The metamorphose with synthetics is a neutral path since there will be harmony between organics and synthetics.

Modifié par MongoChuck, 22 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Why the Reapers didn't just destroy synthetics or refrain from giving anyone technology to advance to that point is beyond me.

[HTTP 404]

The end by itself is very open ended. I didn't dislike it as much as everyone else. In fact the problem with the ending is how the game ended is that there wasn't much variety to it based on your decision.

[HTTP 404]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Why the Reapers didn't just destroy synthetics or refrain from giving anyone technology to advance to that point is beyond me.

well they gave technology to civilization so that civilization can evolve in a predictable pattern.  a predictable pattern is far easier to fight than an unknown.  At least thats how I look at it.

But I can agree, if I read in between your lines, that there really are no concrete answers to why reapers reap.

[MongoChuck]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Why the Reapers didn't just destroy synthetics or refrain from giving anyone technology to advance to that point is beyond me.

The real threat are intelligent life forms. The did wage war against The Geth, but people like The Illusive Man who used The Reapers own technology against them were by far a bigger threat and was therefor indoctrinated.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

HTTP 404 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Why the Reapers didn't just destroy synthetics or refrain from giving anyone technology to advance to that point is beyond me.

well they gave technology to civilization so that civilization can evolve in a predictable pattern.  a predictable pattern is far easier to fight than an unknown.  At least thats how I look at it.

But I can agree, if I read in between your lines, that there really are no concrete answers to why reapers reap.

Problem is with the whole thing is they're treating the symptoms not the source, if that is their goal. Basically they're terrible at what they do.

Modifié par MelfinaofOutlawStar, 22 mars 2012 - 09:13 .

[tetrisblock4x1]

I think the Reapers might be more interested in evolving and reaping than in protecting the galaxy from robots though. The reapers have no use for the robots because the robots have no use for organics so having robots and organics existing in the same galaxy won't do the Reapers any good. They even gave Javik a 2 minute conversation about this very subject in which he states his belief that the robots have no reason to not rise against and totally annihilate their organics masters, undoing the 50,000 years of organic evolution and I think that this is why the Reapers intervene every now and then, not to "protect" the galaxy. If you played the overlord DLC it shows you exactly how dangerous AI can be: so dangerous that even a single pissed off AI can damn near destroy the entire galaxy. If that is what the catalyst was trying to tell us it was written in a rather clumsy way.

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 23 mars 2012 - 01:27 .