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[spirosz]

Gamespot is trying to look "good" in the fan's eyes.

[Gigamantis]

The new ending better be a DLC and better cost money if it happens. I want the real endings after every playthrough, not whatever hugs and rainbows garbage you pansies forced them to make.

[CroGamer002]

Overule wrote...

How is working to please the masses "selling out"...? That's the exact opposite of selling out. Selling out would mean ignoring us to please big business...

Well they are sell outs to Gamespot.

They're not their b*tches nor to any other big business that has nothing to do with gaming.

[Brockololly]

tobito113 wrote...
Its 3 endings, they might be similar but each of them has VERY diferent implications for the future of the galaxy.  

I'm color blind. I only saw one ending.


Whoop-dee-doo, the potential ramifications or implications have on the future of ME are completely irrelevent until we actually see the consequences of that choice. We don't see any significant different changes from any of those endings in game, we just see a palette swap.

[Kanon777]

Brockololly wrote...

tobito113 wrote...
Its 3 endings, they might be similar but each of them has VERY diferent implications for the future of the galaxy.  

I'm color blind. I only saw one ending.


Whoop-dee-doo, the potential ramifications or implications have on the future of ME are completely irrelevent until we actually see the consequences of that choice. We don't see any significant different changes from any of those endings in game, we just see a palette swap.

Thats what i understand they promised, they will add a few more scenes to to show the impact of the 3 choices to the future. That will help people without much imagination understand th diference between the choices  

[BourneBengal]

Did Gamespot even have to pay money to pay Mass Effect 3?

I didn't think so.

[slimgrin]

tobito113 wrote...


Thats what i understand they promised, they will add a few more scenes to to show the impact of the 3 choices to the future. That will help people without much imagination understand th diference between the choices  

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 mars 2012 - 09:29 .

[Rockworm503]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

So basically this thread boils down to "Gamespot said something I don't like, they must be paid off, I don't know by who but it must have happened!"

And the Retake movement descends further into self-parody.

So basically this post boils down to "i'm going to put words into people's mouths to make them look bad"
Whats that you said about self-parody?

[Barbarossa2010]

tobito113 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

tobito113 wrote...
Its 3 endings, they might be similar but each of them has VERY diferent implications for the future of the galaxy.  

I'm color blind. I only saw one ending.


Whoop-dee-doo, the potential ramifications or implications have on the future of ME are completely irrelevent until we actually see the consequences of that choice. We don't see any significant different changes from any of those endings in game, we just see a palette swap.

Thats what i understand they promised, they will add a few more scenes to to show the impact of the 3 choices to the future. That will help people without much imagination understand th diference between the choices  

Well, momentarily ignoring your swipe at the supposedly unimaginative, the future will matter little if it's derived at expense of a sizeable portion of the present consumer base.  There simply won't be a future for Mass Effect if BW fails to please those in the present. 

But, feel free to call those who don't share your assumptions and preconceived notions as "unimaginative." Just don't be surprised if you fail to rally players to your point of view though.

[bleetman]

Again. It's Gamespot. They have all the journalistic integrity of roadkill. I'd consider being slammed by them as some kind of badge of honour.

Modifié par bleetman, 22 mars 2012 - 09:34 .

[Rockworm503]

Gigamantis wrote...

Troll alert guys.
I could smell it off him from his first post.
Do not feed.

[Icinix]

OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

My favorite ones:

Kevin VanOrd‏: 
The Internet accused Bioware of selling out. Then, it demanded Bioware sell out. Congratulations, Internet: you got what you wanted. 

Brendan Sinclair:
So if the government comes knocking, games are art. But when we hate the ending, they're products and the customer is always right. Got it. 


http://www.gamespot....hanges-6367380/

These look like troll arguments from someone who sits on a forum their whole life.

When will reporting and journalism return to gaming websites? Quite frankly I'm sick of our 'professional reviews / opinions' being done by bloggers and rabid ran bois.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

So wait, why wasn't Bioware accused of selling out when they sold out to EA for dumptrucks full of cash? Or how bout when they rushed to change the ending in the first place because of an assets leak to begin with? Were they selling out then? How bout the day 1 Prothian DLC only available to CE editions of the game or 10 dollars extra? Is that selling out?

Odd that both IGN and Gamespot had pre launch or near launch tie ins and come out and say this now. Go figure.

[Rafe34]

This is actually really awesome.

It's absolutely fantastic to truly see how all these gaming "journalists" view gamers. That entire article is simply a bunch of "holier-than-thou" bull**** along the same lines as the atrocious argument that if we don't like the game, we should just go make one ourselves. They are clearly sitting up there on their high horse, looking down at us mere "peasants" who dare to point out that the emperor has no clothes.

You cannot use the reasoning that games are art to excuse terrible writing. The fact that the majority of them make snide comments about gamers wanting "kittens and rainbows" in their ending, shows that these so-called journalists have absolutely no clue what the controversy is actually about- they haven't actually practiced journalism by researching the story, they have merely jumped to conclusions. Not only that, but they then descend into greater depths of idiocy by using fear tactics more suited to politicians, by decrying this whole thing as Bioware opening up the floodgates so that now any time someone has a problem with an ending, the gaming company will be forced to change it. This completely ignores history, Fallout 3 changed their ending with the DLC Broken Steel, and I don't recall anything like this vitriol from the gaming press on that occasion. How dare we, as consumers, hold companies to a certain standard! How dare we ask for the product that we were promised! What do we mere gamers know about true gaming, true art!

This whole debacle over the ME3 endings is opening my eyes to the gaming press and their elitist attitude regarding the consumers who pay for their products, instead of being paid to review them. I can cross Gamespot off of my (short and getting shorter) list of sites that I will visit for gaming opinions.

Modifié par Rafe34, 22 mars 2012 - 09:53 .

[Kanon777]

slimgrin wrote...

tobito113 wrote...


Thats what i understand they promised, they will add a few more scenes to to show the impact of the 3 choices to the future. That will help people without much imagination understand th diference between the choices  

This is an exemple of someone with little imagination. The reapers are killing INTELIGENT organics to stop the destruction of EVERY organic like for in existence. They didnt kill us in the last cycle because we werent inteligent enough to make synthetics.

But i supose people need that information spoon feed to them or the endings "suck"

[jackyboy666]

Promising an ending that dosent have typical choices like A,B or C and then getting an ending when you have to choose A,B or C and then say It's art. I'm sorry, we arent complaining as though this this is a typical narrative piece of gaming here, we are talking about ME, an interactive narrative that has countless times been said that YOU the player decide how it plays out, ends etc. Well I can safely say thats not the case to ME trilogy.

[Paulinius]

So listening to fans and making Tali a romanceable character is also spineless?

[Rockworm503]

tobito113 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

tobito113 wrote...


Thats what i understand they promised, they will add a few more scenes to to show the impact of the 3 choices to the future. That will help people without much imagination understand th diference between the choices  

This is an exemple of someone with little imagination. The reapers are killing INTELIGENT organics to stop the destruction of EVERY organic like for in existence. They didnt kill us in the last cycle because we werent inteligent enough to make synthetics.

But i supose people need that information spoon feed to them or the endings "suck"

LOL if it make sense in your head roll with it.  Don't fart in my face and tell me I'm smelling roses.

[flexxdk]

"Bioware revisiting the Mass Effect 3 ending is literally the worst thing to happen since World War 2."

I stopped reading there.

That just goes too far.

Modifié par Whacka, 22 mars 2012 - 10:07 .

[chiliztri]

How is the deus ex machina ending we got "art"?

That's not art, that's just terrible writing.

[Paulinius]

chiliztri wrote...

How is the deus ex machina ending we got "art"?

That's not art, that's just terrible writing.

Have you made a AAA title video game?

No.

Then you have no right to complain. Stop being so entitled. If you don't like the ending, don't buy the game.

/sarcasm.

[LegendaryBlade]

If you want to make your voices heard to Gamespot remember to tweet at them, the majority of responses they have received on their twitter support the ideals of the article. The hashtag to use it at the end of the article.

[Icinix]

Paulinius wrote...

chiliztri wrote...

How is the deus ex machina ending we got "art"?

That's not art, that's just terrible writing.

Have you made a AAA title video game?

No.

Then you have no right to complain. Stop being so entitled. If you don't like the ending, don't buy the game.

/sarcasm.

lol

[Rafe34]

tobito113 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

tobito113 wrote...


Thats what i understand they promised, they will add a few more scenes to to show the impact of the 3 choices to the future. That will help people without much imagination understand th diference between the choices  

This is an exemple of someone with little imagination. The reapers are killing INTELIGENT organics to stop the destruction of EVERY organic like for in existence. They didnt kill us in the last cycle because we werent inteligent enough to make synthetics.

But i supose people need that information spoon feed to them or the endings "suck"

Why do you accept the Reaper's word that this must be done?

How do they know this will happen? It obviously has never happened before, or we wouldn't be here.

Why don't the Reapers just TELL people that's going to happen?

Why don't they just come in and wipe out the SYNTHETICS?

This ending makes no sense. 95% of the people who think it does are just CoD folk who can't comprehend plot anyway. The other 5% are just nuts.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

chiliztri wrote...

How is the deus ex machina ending we got "art"?

That's not art, that's just terrible writing.

It's not unique or as Casey tried to say "Thought provoking" All they did was rip the ending off from a game from 10 years ago that neither fits the narrative of the series, or is particularly well written either.  Well said Chili.