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[kermitthefrog3]

I made my character as a warrior tank, but he seems to be incredibly weak.

He does very little damage, granted he is a tank, but even as a tank hes doing below average damage.

Even when hes trying to tank, he still takes a lot of damage even from white mobs. If I leave him to fight alone against a single white enemy he will actually have to be healed or he will lose, even against an archer in melee!

Im playing on normal (my arse normal) and he has pretty decent gear.

Can anybody explain this to me? I dont get my mages can annihilate an entire roomfull of enemies with 2 aoe abilities without ever being brought into combat while my tank cant take on a single white mob without being killed.

P.S: I know theres a few threads flying around about mages OPness, I wouldnt mind that so much if my Warrior could do his tanking job, and im trying to get to the bottom of this.

P.S.S: I am playing atm in Denehrim at lvl 9, ive heard its a pretty nasty place, this may be something to do with it, but ive had trouble elsewhere.

[DaeFaron]

Meh, you could not freak about the whole tanking business....

[Rythuria]

Did you build your tank primarily as a dex or con tank? I'm an avid supporter of team dex, con tanks tend to just be big mana sponges.

[valis123]

Would have been better if you replied in another thread concering this your giving Stanley woo more work but anyway i'm not having any trouble with my warrior and it's pretty fun.. make sure to put points in dexterity so that you actually avoid hits and just always keep the heal over time spell on him (Can't remember the name.. renewal?)

[Sylvius the Mad]

If he's tanking, I assume he's carrying a shield. Don't forget to have him use his CC (like shield bash) abilities to reduce the damage being doled out.

You could do this with a 2H warrior, but it takes a lot more planning and micromanagement.

[EtherealS1n]

Dex tanks are best, rogue dex tanks.

[Lortext]

Be sure to spend some stat points on dex to avoid attacks. Also, use sustained skills to buff armor and defense.

I ran a Sword and Shield warrior and didn't even focus on tanking other than leaving threaten on. As long as I didn't fight a ton of guys I never had a problem.

Without giving any spoilers there are some rough fights in Denehrim where not having at least one mages will make them very difficult.

Modifié par Lortext, 30 novembre 2009 - 10:14 .

[soteria]

I don't know what the problem is with your tank, but I can tell you how I built mine, and this worked really well: 2 points in strength and 1 in dexterity at each level until I hit 42 strength. Then 2 in dexterity and 1 in constitution for the rest of the game, and you'll have a fairly balanced tank that does good damage, hits often, dodges a lot, and can survive curse of mortality.



Also, make sure you get taunt, get the talents that stop you from being flanked, and the talent that stops you from getting knocked down while shield wall is active. Shield Pummel and Overpower are, imo, the two best offensive attacks for you (Overpower is good because of its ability to shatter). I found I was hitting almost as hard as Sten, but a lot more often by the time I got done with the circle tower.

[TileToad]

I know exactly what you mean.
My warrior dwarf, while starting out pretty decent, can hardly put a dent in the armor of my opponents now. I even tried numerous combinations of weaponry without much difference. He usually does about 20 damage on average, which is pretty bad considering the toughness and hordes of enemies my party normally faces.

[GunSlinger_83]

I am around the same level tank as you, I have a human warrior tank. I have not really had any problems mainly due to the shield I believe. If you get the shield bash and the shield pummel and then alternate using them, then you can stun and knock different opponents to the ground then hack on them while they are lying down while others are stunned. I use my shield as a weapon in almost every single encounter. Also put a lot into constitution and strength.

Modifié par GunSlinger_83, 30 novembre 2009 - 10:37 .

[Kuraiken]

As for damage, you might like to check out my warrior. At around level 16 when I started putting runes in my weapons, I really started to dish out enormous amounts of damage.
Currently, my character has a dps of 122 with haste + 2 selfbuffs. (1h+shield)

As for tanking, don't go for con. I've tried con in the beginning, but all you get is 5 hp per point in con. All it does is raise the margin of how much damage you can take without getting healed.

At first I tried to balance gear & fatigue, but it's not worth it. Go for the real armor and defense items to put the stats as high as possible. Certain defensive techniques like shield wall will make your life much easier as well. I played the game through the hard, and it wasn't really that difficult.

And, while this is obvious, make sure you never tank all enemies alone. 4 and five are doable, but beyond that you will get too much damage, too much damage from behind, and you just can't work such mobs very well. Mob 4-5, use spells to disable the others and use concentrated fire to bring one after another down as fast as possible and you won't have any problems at all.

Modifié par Kuraiken, 30 novembre 2009 - 10:43 .

[ExGym]

Well i have shield warrior human noble,and i have no problem with tanking. He is two times stronger then Alistar. This is my second run so its litlle beter made. I am wearing good equpment on lvl 15, but i havent had any problems on any lvl with him. And put most of points on strength 45, dex 27 con 24.

[F-C]

im playing a shield tank through now and im splitting points between str, dex, and willpower.



i dont seem to be having an issues at all. i can certainly beat the crap out of any single white enemy one on one. keep bouncing him on his backside and he hardly has a chance to do any damage to you anyways.

[JHorwath]

Spells that boost defense + health regen are your friend.

[Zoe Dedweth]

Don't Forget the best armor you can afford. I like Juggernaut myself.

[ScuzzyUsbourne]

For my warrior...I did something a little different. I dabbled one skill into poison. Dual Weilding. A vial of venom, runes in both weapons with my mage running frost weapons. Battles are over pretty quick..toss a vial of acid...then dual sweep them with the weapons. Most whites are GONE at that point. If I get in a little deep, Shale will taunt...and I repeat the process. Dex warriors rock. With every type of damage available being thrown at the enemy all at once...its a bloodbath. Block small passages with two frontliners...poison, ice, acid, electric, fire...its all there. Kill 'em all..let the Maker sort it out.  My constitution is still in the teens. My strength is barely over 35.

Modifié par ScuzzyUsbourne, 01 décembre 2009 - 07:13 .

[Loc'n'lol]

And by "tank" you mean sword and shield, right ? right ?

[FedericoV]

Well, I really don't know what you're doing wrong.



I've builded my tank around strenght, dex and willpower, adding points to constitution now and then. It's really hard to break that kind of charachter. Willpower is important for a main charachter to make use of all the nice talents and have fun. I spam them and enjoy a lot my charachter. Way more fun to play than D&D auto-attack warrior.



I must say that with 40+ points in willpower (I have something like 15 bonus points ) even Holy Smythe begin to shine. I manage to stun most of the bosses. Putting points in constitution past 20-25 is worthless in my opinion.

[Fishy]

Just don't use all of you talent point into Shield/Warrior tree .. Put some of them into 2Hander for dmg or Bow for pulling.



Warrior can be a great classe if you use it correctly.The hardest part's probably Denerim if you go here to quick.Because they flank you .. So make sure to have a decent character before going here.



Also well.just don't put all of your point into Streng..You don,t have to use the most heavy armor.Having a lighter armor increase your mobility and your defense rating.



Also remember that NPC most of the time attack the character with the heavier armor.if you have a very heavy armor you will get hit often because your defense rating will be lower and your stamina will be drained very quicky.Personnaly i think heavy armor= useless in this game.

[Zilod]

Suprez30 wrote...

Personnaly i think heavy armor= useless in this game.

well imo one of the best armors (if not the best) is Evon+Wade heavy boots and gloves (or eventually with diligence ones), due to low fatigue, good armor and other bonuses it fits pretty well to tanks who use action (or who need action regen) and AWs.... and aggro is not a problem at all with the aoe taunt

and btw... warrior is kinda a slow starter as in the early game it will lack enought CC option (Morry can provide some but you have to manage her more than your char) or a good healer (you can turn Morry into healer if you have not Wyn but it still requires some levels). If you have a melee oriented party give haste to your mage as it boosts the dps of all the chars for a good amount

later in the game, with better equip and some stats on your back (be it str or eventually dex) things will go way better... ah and dont spend points in const, with potions, heals (and cc ) you dont need an high const at all

so my advice is basically... go to the mage tower asap, get wyn and give her haste and a few points of will, then you are set

Modifié par Zilod, 01 décembre 2009 - 11:24 .

[Chalenheri]

Lvl 9 and Denerim? Way too early (except for buying the codex xp boost girdle)

Stats were mentioned bevore.

As for abilities, see that you grab Threaten and taunt and focus on getting shield wall. The offensive shield abilities are nice, but your first conern should be about not getting too much damage