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[hihey54]

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It was my third gold today, and it was the third time I outscored my teammates by a huge amount.
I am not a good sniper. I believe I am just an experienced player. However I've been outperforming my team every time since yesterday, when I obtained this weapon.
I couldn't manage to do even 1/3 of those points when I was using my Mantis X; and then, all of a sudden, I am the best DPS among my mates.

I am not the kind of player who likes nerfing. BUT I believe something has to be done about this weapon. It is simply too powerful. Nerfing just one of its pros would be good in my opinion. The recoil, the reload, the fire rate, the damage or the weight: all is good about this weapon, even on gold.
Not to mention that even a mediocre SI could solo geth on silver/bronze with this weapon.

Thoughts?

[Titan98RG]

if anything, it's energy drain that needs a slight nerf. try doing the same with a HI.

[DrekorSilverfang]

You probably think that because you don't have a Widow or BW.

[Slappy Mancuso]

No, but I'm sure it'll be close to the top of the next nerf list with all the threads like this popping up.

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

Please do not nerf it - improve other guns to a comparable level(that is, if you agree it needs doing anything to). It is super-rare, only a quarter of all the people that successfully extracted on silver could have it, and there are a lot of players who cannot manage silver - as my random lobbies keep showing me.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Titan98RG wrote...

if anything, it's energy drain that needs a slight nerf. try doing the same with a HI.

>Slight nerf
>Slight
>lol
No that **** needs to be nerfed to the stoneage, or cloak or the infilly sniper damage or i guess they could nerf all 3 slighlty. 

[OblivionDawn]

*ignore this post*

Modifié par OblivionDawn, 22 mars 2012 - 06:16 .

[Artillery371]

Yes, nerf this gun to Falcon status

/trollface

[OblivionDawn]

There is nothing OP about the Valiant. Any upgraded Black Widow will outperform it.

Seriously, what does it say about Bioware's weekend events if they just nerf the "special" prizes a week after they come out? Not gonna happen.

[CJon428]

No. Quit nerfing sh*t.

[A Wild Snorlax]

I got 130k points in a gold game with the mantis with ap mod and extended barrel, mantis is OP, derp.

[BlackDoomShadow]

Last night all three of my teammates died and I proceeded to whoop the entire wave with nothing but the Valiant. I love it.

[OMGimAnoobLOLOL]

The fast rate of fire and fast reloading will let you keep a good pace, but its not any more crazy than the Widows.

It wasn't hard to tell that the valiant is the only worthwhile collector's edition weapon. (If you've ever tried them in sp)

[Zhuinden]

Oh come on, stop nerfing guns. I have a Valiant, and I'm still a crappy sniper.

[hihey54]

Titan98RG wrote...

if anything, it's energy drain that needs a slight nerf. try doing the same with a HI.

Energy Drain is a wonderful ability. That's why I wrote "a mediocre SI" and not "a mediocre infiltrator", as it would be pretty hard to solo silver geth with a non-salarian infiltrator (doable, but hard nevertheless).
However, the fact is that when you are cloacked you can OHKO any regular unshielded enemy with a hs. And, if you miss, you can fire at least another shot before camo disappears.
This, coupled with the brief cd of Tactical Cloack (4 secs with the Valiant), makes you able to clean up the first 3-4 waves in gold with almost no effort.
At least, with the mantis, I had to aim carefully before shooting. And the same goes for the Widow. Now, with the Valiant, I simply pull the trigger anytime a head pops up in my sight.
Not to mention that the valiant is good even in CQC, due to its quick reload and fire rate.

Modifié par hihey54, 22 mars 2012 - 06:35 .

[hazarkazra]

Look, stop being reasonable about your own stuff. The way forums work is everything you have needs buff, anything the other people have is OP and needs nerfs so bad.

On that note: Something has to be done about Black Widows and Krogan melee. So much damage is simply not fair to us Asari Adepts. I propose our melee attack should set off biotic explosions.

Modifié par hazarkazra, 22 mars 2012 - 06:30 .

[Elecbender]

Doesn't affect me as I don't have the weapon.

Don't care.

[robarcool]

Yeah, keep asking for nerfs. Gold will soon become from a challenge to a frustration.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

robarcool wrote...

Yeah, keep asking for nerfs. Gold will soon become from a challenge to a frustration.

Gold isn't a challenge with an SI though. 

And i imagine it will only get easier as people start carrying up to 10 rockets each<_<

[civheaded]

no nerfing. Infact, all N7 weapons are too heavy.

[hihey54]

hazarkazra wrote...

Look, stop being reasonable about your own stuff. The way forums work is everything you have needs buff, anything the other people have is OP and needs nerfs so bad.

On that note: Something has to be done about Black Widows and Krogan melee.

Look, I actually HAVE the Valiant.
I have a Mantis X and a Widow I too.
The only reason I am asking for a (SLIGHT!) nerf is because it takes almost NO skill to use it.
Using the Mantis requires skill (a mislead headshot will cause you to be useless for 4 seconds, due to the 1shot magazine and due to its long reload speed). Using the Widow requires skill.
Using the Valiant requires NO skill. You miss an enemy? Who cares, I still have 2 shots in the magazine, which can blow up two other heads while uncloacked in bronze/silver.

[Slappy Mancuso]

It's a really stupid circle that countless other games have gone through. I understand and appreciate companies listening to their communities, but catering to the largest group of whiners will only create more whiners. What's fantastic today will be crap tomorrow, and the people who are affected will complain about something entirely different so that it continues. It really detracts from the experience, and in the end no one wins.

Yeah, this gun is pretty good in capable hands. Other guns are better. Others are worse. It all depends on the situation, the player/character and even their team as to how effective it can be. It doesn't need any tweaking; certainly not two days after it was released.

If you ask me, gun changes should be limited to once a month or even every six months at the most. Going week by week like this and conditioning players to expect a batch of nerfs & buffs is only going to make the problem worse.

[Mr_Steph]

hihey54 wrote...

hazarkazra wrote...

Look, stop being reasonable about your own stuff. The way forums work is everything you have needs buff, anything the other people have is OP and needs nerfs so bad.

On that note: Something has to be done about Black Widows and Krogan melee.

Look, I actually HAVE the Valiant.
I have a Mantis X and a Widow I too.
The only reason I am asking for a (SLIGHT!) nerf is because it takes almost NO skill to use it.
Using the Mantis requires skill (a mislead headshot will cause you to be useless for 4 seconds, due to the 1shot magazine and due to its long reload speed). Using the Widow requires skill.
Using the Valiant requires NO skill. You miss an enemy? Who cares, I still have 2 shots in the magazine, which can blow up two other heads while uncloacked in bronze/silver.

I guess you want the black widow nerfed as well then?

[robarcool]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Yeah, keep asking for nerfs. Gold will soon become from a challenge to a frustration.

Gold isn't a challenge with an SI though. 

And i imagine it will only get easier as people start carrying up to 10 rockets each<_<

That is the thing. Keep the rocket limit to like 3-4 max rather than nerfing the powers and weapons. Rockets are to be used in the most dire situations, like I did yesterday in the geth gold in the stay at a spot hacking when we were surronded by 3 hunters. killed 3 of my team and I was the only one standing. With 10 rockets, they will become like the heavy weapon in Mass effect 2, which I ddin't ever use for the fear of making the game from easy to too easy.
Buffing the mobs and nerfing the weapons with the assumption of everyone carrying multiple expendables is a bad move I think. I will see how it pans out.

[hazarkazra]

hihey54 wrote...

Look, I actually HAVE the Valiant.
I have a Mantis X and a Widow I too.
The only reason I am asking for a (SLIGHT!) nerf is because it takes almost NO skill to use it.
Using the Mantis requires skill (a mislead headshot will cause you to be useless for 4 seconds, due to the 1shot magazine and due to its long reload speed). Using the Widow requires skill.
Using the Valiant requires NO skill. You miss an enemy? Who cares, I still have 2 shots in the magazine, which can blow up two other heads while uncloacked in bronze/silver.

You ruined my poor little sarcasm post
I actually have the Valiant aswell and it made me a suprisingly usefull Infiltrator. Because of that fact, I'm convinced that something is wrong with this gun. But I don't think it's really high on the priority list. Thanks to the Valiant I might actually learn the class. Otherwise I would have never tried, because I would score too low to be usefull to the team.

A good infiltrator with a Black Widow (especially an upgraded one) is still far more usefull then me and a Valiant.

Modifié par hazarkazra, 22 mars 2012 - 06:42 .