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[Dreaming Dead]

Iwillbeback wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch 

This made my day

[ConradsLaces]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

What exactly does a screenshot of a text file prove? It's your PC, so you can manipulate the document in any way you want to create the screenshot. For conclusive proof you have to open the link yourself (it's gibbed's domain, gib.me so it's the real guy)

Here's an ammended screenshot...
EDIT - if you want to zoom in, just right click, and use "Copy Link Location" and put it into a new broser tab/window.

Modifié par ConradsLaces, 22 mars 2012 - 08:56 .

[Justicar]

How did you guys interpret this as wrong?

What I read was "The child is either Human or Asari, SPECULATE"

[Militarized]

I'm not surprised.... artistic integrity!! -.-

[Malanek]

bwFex wrote...

 Crossposted to r/masseffect for examination. Anyone come up with an explanation for this yet?

• biod_end002_100opening
• biod_end002_200tunnel
• biod_end002_300timconflict_loc_int
• biod_end002_400guardian_loc_int
• ???
• biod_end002_600epilogue_loc_int

More interesting than the thread title imo. How are earlier files numbered? Are there other gaps?

Modifié par Malanek999, 22 mars 2012 - 08:56 .

[Myrmedus]

Asnine112 wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

People are 100% misunderstanding the unhappiness with the ending. Seriously, how many people are going to just assume it's about fairy tale endings without any evidence?

Are you suggesting that no one within the retake ME2 movement would still be unhappy if an ending came out that was bleak and despondent, despite making sense?


Now don't get me wrong, I didn't like the endings, but let's be realistic here. There exists a significant number of people who want a happy ending where Shep goes and has little blue babies (or whatever).

Why not?

Game was advertised as having multiple endings so one of them could be a happy one

[ConradsLaces]

Malanek999 wrote...

bwFex wrote...

 Crossposted to r/masseffect for examination. Anyone come up with an explanation for this yet?

• biod_end002_100opening
• biod_end002_200tunnel
• biod_end002_300timconflict_loc_int
• biod_end002_400guardian_loc_int
• ???
• biod_end002_600epilogue_loc_int

More interesting than the thread title imo.

Think it needs it's own topic for discussion.
gonna make one.

[Klijpope]

Even the very best ending should have an unbearable cost. These were the End Times. Everything continuing on as before with blue babies on top would just make the Reapers look, well, small and feeble for millions of years old 2km tall ascended-organic-robot-god-babies.

That would make the games as empty as having a too short, confusing, non-epic ending, if not more so.

[bwFex]

ConradsLaces wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

bwFex wrote...

 Crossposted to r/masseffect for examination. Anyone come up with an explanation for this yet?

• biod_end002_100opening
• biod_end002_200tunnel
• biod_end002_300timconflict_loc_int
• biod_end002_400guardian_loc_int
• ???
• biod_end002_600epilogue_loc_int

More interesting than the thread title imo.

Think it needs it's own topic for discussion.
gonna make one.

Sure thing. If you guys come up with anything interesting, have an ambassador come tell us over on reddit.

The only thing we've come up with so far is that 500 most likely represents the "explosion" scene, as well as the Normandy scene.

If we assume that this is a mocap script, then it would explain the explosion scene (which had no mocap), but not the normandy scene (which went back and forth between prerendered and mocap).

[ConradsLaces]

bwFex wrote...

Sure thing. If you guys come up with anything interesting, have an ambassador come tell us over on reddit.

The only thing we've come up with so far is that 500 most likely represents the "explosion" scene, as well as the Normandy scene.

If we assume that this is a mocap script, then it would explain the explosion scene (which had no mocap), but not the normandy scene (which went back and forth between prerendered and mocap).

Here's the link to the new post - before it gets buried in the fourms... no doubt, it's on page 12 by now.. lol

http://social.biowar...2501/1#10472523

[FS3D]

Klijpope wrote...

Even the very best ending should have an unbearable cost. These were the End Times.

No... This is not religion. If I wanted End Times, I'd go read Revelations and be happy with it.

This is a Space Opera, a Heroic Epic, in terms of storyline. A satisfactory conclusion is warranted as an option at least.

Everything continuing on as before with blue babies on top would just make the Reapers look, well, small and feeble for millions of years old 2km tall ascended-organic-robot-god-babies.

That would make the games as empty as having a too short, confusing, non-epic ending, if not more so.

Hasn't there already been a high cost? Planets ravaged by an enemy who can only be killed by targeting their weak spots, or killing whoever has been indoctrinated in order to bring down their shields (as in Mass Effect 1 with Saren)? You want even more destruction? Are you going to be happy with the collapse of civilization due to the loss of the Mass Relays? There's victory with a cost, and there's victory that is as bitter as defeat, and they are two different things.

I'm not trying to be confrontational or adversarial here, I'm just saying there's a limit to how depressing you should make the options.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

dointime85 wrote...

A very limited genepool leads to some very disturbing developments

 

[Montana]

So 10'000 years later, the galaxy still hasn't recovered?

Wow, makes me even more sad...

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I'm convinced it's more "end times" propaganda crap trying to deprive people of any hope so that these "end times" happen.

[Liec]

"4: IM uses a bit of control mojo on Shepard.."

LOL

[Zalitara]

Yeah, I don't even want to begin speculating on how exactly the Asari genes suddenly weren't dominant anyone. I guess evolution could cause that, eventually, but I mean, what's the point? It's impossible to see that from the scene itself so it's pretty damn pointless.

[Piarath]

"Lots of speculation!"

<_<

[Militarized]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I'm convinced it's more "end times" propaganda crap trying to deprive people of any hope so that these "end times" happen.

It's a self fulling prophecy because these nuts want it to happen. 

No offense to the moderate ones(though letting it slide doesn't help, speak up.) 

[Sporothrix]

"They" used in text is about kid alone. It's to dodge gender pronounce. And it's not said kid looks like half asari, half human hybrid, just that maybe it is asari, or maybe a human.

Looks like a way to introduce Shepard's progeny no matter if it would be Asari or human. Take a note that grandfather is in quotation marks. 

It's reasonable to think that in Normandy's inbred colony there would be human and asari populations (descendents of Liara).

Modifié par misoretu9, 22 mars 2012 - 09:52 .

[Klijpope]

FS3D wrote...

Klijpope wrote...

Even the very best ending should have an unbearable cost. These were the End Times.

No... This is not religion. If I wanted End Times, I'd go read Revelations and be happy with it.

This is a Space Opera, a Heroic Epic, in terms of storyline. A satisfactory conclusion is warranted as an option at least.

Everything continuing on as before with blue babies on top would just make the Reapers look, well, small and feeble for millions of years old 2km tall ascended-organic-robot-god-babies.

That would make the games as empty as having a too short, confusing, non-epic ending, if not more so.

Hasn't there already been a high cost? Planets ravaged by an enemy who can only be killed by targeting their weak spots, or killing whoever has been indoctrinated in order to bring down their shields (as in Mass Effect 1 with Saren)? You want even more destruction? Are you going to be happy with the collapse of civilization due to the loss of the Mass Relays? There's victory with a cost, and there's victory that is as bitter as defeat, and they are two different things.

I'm not trying to be confrontational or adversarial here, I'm just saying there's a limit to how depressing you should make the options.

The only alternative is to let the Reapers win - total, utter annihilation, galaxy wide, for all 'civilised' species. The Reapers are a scifi equivalent to Armageddon (note, I'm an atheist - not trying to evangelise here), and the only response to them is a blind faith in the Crucible, with no idea what that might entail (foreshadowed by prothean VI that use of the Crucible could result in a dark age).

If, in the end, everything went back to normal, that would be way more disappointing. It is not possible to defeat the Reapers conventionally - that is said time after time in the game. The entire massed fleets of pretty much all the spacefaring civilisations were matched against maybe a dozen or more reapers in orbit around Earth, and got thoroughly chewed up. Even if it was victory above the Earth - they've then got to repeat this task maybe hundreds of times over, without replacements. Inconceivable (to me).

The Mass Relays are Reaper tech. It has been foreshadowed since ME1 (the Conduit) that they could be used, or would be needed, to 'defeat' the Reapers. Legion in ME2 alludes to the fact that it is better to 'improve' on your own merits, rather than use the tainted leg-up from Reaper tech. It is appropriate and fitting that using the relay network to destroy, co-opt, defang, or whatever, the Reapers, should also mean you lose it.

All that blood and treasure was spent so that Shepard could make it to the Catalyst and have the chance to end it, and she needed to climb a mountain of dead to get there. To me, it just doesn't feel right that Shepard gets a happy-ever-after when everyone else has paid so dearly to give her that choice.

That's bitter. The sweet comes from knowing that the krogan can't rampage across the galaxy, if they were so inclined, because they're stuck in their cluster. The rachni can develop in peace without molestation, wherever they end up. The geth and the quarians can get along, or not, without interference. And the Asari and the Salarians cannot go around manipulating 'lesser' species and pretending they're benevolent aunts and uncles, while hoarding all the goodies.

In short, destroying the relay network both ends the reaper threat, and makes all the inbuilt faultlines in galactic society irrelevant. Ergo, brave new galaxy. That's my reasoning, anyhoo.

[Elidor109]

Only read the first page.

You have to realize, its entirely possible to have an Asari who looks a lot like humans. After all, Asari used to have hair until they started 'havin fun' with lizards

After 10,000 years, the genetic diversity of humans could certainly have a large impact on the Asari.

Males however, I don't see how that'd happen.

[InfiniteDemise]

Klijpope wrote...

Even the very best ending should have an unbearable cost. These were the End Times. Everything continuing on as before with blue babies on top would just make the Reapers look, well, small and feeble for millions of years old 2km tall ascended-organic-robot-god-babies.

That would make the games as empty as having a too short, confusing, non-epic ending, if not more so.

Two million people, on Earth alone, being liquified a day is a bearable cost? Multiplied by every race in the galaxy? The entire infrastructure of the galaxy being ripped inside-out?

Yeah, totally insignificant.

Modifié par InfiniteDemise, 22 mars 2012 - 10:05 .

[Kyrick]

HAHAHAHAHA. Hilarious. I mean, simply hilarious. I'm getting the opinion as I find out more and more from the development process of this game that there are some real winners on the writing staff. But hey, it's all good. Apparently humans can look 'a little bit Asari' now, 10,000 years into the future. No reason why the space magic ending can't magically alter the Asari genome and such to produce humans that only 'look a little Asari'.

I mean, seriously now, this is getting absurd. Are these the same writers that did the first two games? Were they replaced by pod people or something? Memory wiped? I expect that the writers and creators of the Mass Effect intellectual property would at least bother to keep up with the 'rules' of their own universe. It's like hiring a carpenter who doesn't know what in the hell a hammer is.

[The Angry One]

InfiniteDemise wrote...

Klijpope wrote...

Even the very best ending should have an unbearable cost. These were the End Times. Everything continuing on as before with blue babies on top would just make the Reapers look, well, small and feeble for millions of years old 2km tall ascended-organic-robot-god-babies.

That would make the games as empty as having a too short, confusing, non-epic ending, if not more so.

Two million people, on Earth alone, being liquified a day is a bearable cost? Multiplied by every race in the galaxy? The entire infrastructure on the galaxy being ripped inside-out?

Yeah, totally insignificant.

Yeah apparently the sacrifices and death made throughout the whole game weren't enough.
We had to have a bleak ending on top of that to make all those previous sacrifices pointless too!

[Militarized]

Where you see Brave New Galaxy I see New Galactic Dark Age, if they haven't recovered after 10k years... I can only imagine most if not all the tech is destroyed and they are dealing with the ignorant struggles we had to deal with before getting to the stars all over again.

Yes there were issues with galactic politics but there are so many more issues that that technology and cooperation had or were fixing... ugh... all this is seriously ruining Mass Effect for me. Reset buttons are SO cliche and dumb.