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#76
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Machines Are Us wrote...

That scene should never have existed in the first place. Clichéd and out of place is the only way to describe it.


It looked like a hallmark postcard moment...

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Giskler wrote...

The second interesting thing is that the child is of human and asari descent. Child from Liara's melding in London carried on Shepards bloodline?

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Heather Cline wrote...

Yeah right. Sorry but I don't think they'd re-write the entire Asari to have male Asari or have half human/half Asari children. Or half Asari/half some alien children either.


Quite frankly, after the ending, there are no limits of how bad I can believe BioWare could screw up.

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Iwillbeback wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch 


I cried.

Best ending ever.

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shinobi602

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Just when I thought the ending couldn't get any worse.

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The Angry One

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I'll take your word on the Anderson vision, I sure as hell aren't playing the ending or watching spacebrat again to confirm.

The fact remains though that the description says "maybe THEY look a little Asari and a little human." Both of them.
Also the kid sounds like a boy to me... though let's ignore that the silouette is that of a scaled down man, that's yet more cheapness.

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you are all jumping to some big conclusions just because a note says a kid looks a little asari and a little human.

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Asnine112

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Once again, what species they are isn't what's interesting about this tidbit.



It's the fact that 10,000 years into the future galactic civilization is still non-existent, seeing as how people haven't made it back into space yet

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RazorrX wrote...

it is because the reapers won, wiped out the civilized advance societies and the stargazer is a different race (thus the looks maybe asari, maybe human). They have found the time capsules left by Liara and are not yet able to travel in space. So "The Shepard" is a mythological figure to them at that time.

The ending is (as I think) you die at the reaper blast, everything after is your mind allowing you to let go and move on (including the space magic) and the last gasp if you have 5k EMS. The Reapers finish the cycle and the Stargazer is the NEXT cycle.


lol

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I think it just goes to show that all the endings for ME3 are basically the same (since they all conclude with this one cut-scene). No matter what you do, the galaxy is dorked back into the stone age and even 10,000 years later they've not managed to recover to anything even close to what they were.

Yeah, that is certainly a personalized outcome based on my prior decisions...

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So what we can gather from this is: They are supposed to be related to the races of the current cycle. Yet they do not know of space travel or other species.
It can't be a distant planet that just received a time capsule as they wouldn't look like Asari/humans. They can't be regular survivors of the cycle cause they'd still have eezo tech. So they have to be descendants of the Normandy crash crew in some way and completely forgotten where they came from.
On the bright side: it does not say anything about the state of the galaxy post ME3. Just that the QEC on board the Normandy was fubar'd.

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Were assuming the star child is male? The voice is kind of muddled and androgynous no?

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KroganShields

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Well-.. No-.. I don't belie-..

WE'RE ALL BEING INDOCTRINATED!

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The scene is a DLC plug...nothing more. It doesn't add to the story at all.

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This makes sense really. ME4 is set 10 000 years in the future, when every single character in the game is a possible LI, no matter what gender you PC is. Bioware's wet dream...

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Can somebody point me to a method to rip this cutscene out of the game without breaking the game? Please? I hate this scene so much more now than I ever thought I could. And I thought it was the biggest middle finger of all time to have the final scene in the game be exactly the same for everyone, and tell us that Shepard is a fairy tale they tell kids now.

And then try to extort us for DLC. I want to rip this scene out of the game. Seriously. Just... never be forced to watch it again.

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The Angry One wrote...
The fact remains though that the description says "maybe THEY look a little Asari and a little human." Both of them.
Also the kid sounds like a boy to me... though let's ignore that the silouette is that of a scaled down man, that's yet more cheapness.


You added the "and".  The original quote was "look a little bit Asari, a little bit human."

It's just an art direction note.  The point is not that the kid is an Asari/human hybrid.  It's that the species of the child is unclear.

And it is.  I cannot tell you if that kid is Asari or human.

Modifié par ajm317, 22 mars 2012 - 06:55 .


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Giskler

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Really goes to show that your choices never really mattered. Canon is galactic dark age and franchise reboot 10,000 years in the future.

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Art note or not thats pretty dumb considering the lore. I hope its not authentic.
And 10,000 years would be Liara's great,great,great.great,great,great,great,great,great granddaughter would it not?, seeing as though Asari are supposed to live potentially up to a thousand years.

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4: IM uses a bit of control mojo on Shepard.. jerking Shepard's arm towards Anderson.

I like this part. I want control mojo dlc for Shepard..

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Kilshrek

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Space Magic™, leaving everyone to speculate on everything since ME 3.

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10,000 years is a LONG time. It could be simply a handwave for people who obliterated earth [and presumably Normandy]. It would be a new species that discovered the time capsule.

Although honestly, I have no idea. I'm think that's what they meant. Liara could have died after all. ["died" I guess.]

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see it's " asari/humanish " look...in description, because it's a totally new species and no new name.

the cycle went on anyway, everything is gone, this is the first major advance of the new cycle who found the thing liara made.

that how I take it

" everyone died, this is the new cycle, buy dlc? "

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Asnine112 wrote...

Once again, what species they are isn't what's interesting about this tidbit.



It's the fact that 10,000 years into the future galactic civilization is still non-existent, seeing as how people haven't made it back into space yet


How does this bit surprise you?
You murdered everyone in the entire galaxy. The few inbred descendants of the crew of a single frigate aren't going to do much by themselves.

If anything this lends support to the argument that the mass relays wiped out their home star systems.

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ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Giskler wrote...

Gibbed (the guy whos made the savegame editors and multiple other tools) found this in the game files. I doubt its fake.


Some said the same thing about the child model being named Harbringer.  Always wait for multiple sources.

If it turns out true, well, someone smoked their breakfast that day.


The Child/Harbinger model WAS faked - I dug out the same 3d Model that the doctored picture was made from... it clearly does NOT say, or reference Harbinger - in any way.

This isn't faked. It's straight data (apparently for art direction, according to others) pulled from the ME3 game files.
Gibbed isn't going to troll anyone...

Go read it all for yourself - click the link, read the document... we can have thousands of sources in just a few minutes, if everyone would do that.