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[N7Adept]

Are we sure that in that cut scene people have not made it back into space or galactic travel?

I wasn't getting that assumption myself. Am I missing it?

[LucidStrike]

The Angry One wrote...

Asnine112 wrote...

Once again, what species they are isn't what's interesting about this tidbit.



It's the fact that 10,000 years into the future galactic civilization is still non-existent, seeing as how people haven't made it back into space yet

How does this bit surprise you?
You murdered everyone in the entire galaxy. The few inbred descendants of the crew of a single frigate aren't going to do much by themselves.

If anything this lends support to the argument that the mass relays wiped out their home star systems.

Why i Its it easier for people to believe that the exploding relays destroyed everything than to believe it was space magic that somehow did not? If it destroyed everything, how's Shepard still around after a 4K Destroy, and why's the Normandy NOT destroyed by the space magic?

[ConradsLaces]

Giskler wrote...

Really goes to show that your choices never really mattered. Canon is galactic dark age and franchise reboot 10,000 years in the future.

Mass Effect 4 opening crawl:

"A long time ago... in a galaxy far, far away..."

[Asnine112]

The Angry One wrote...

Asnine112 wrote...

Once again, what species they are isn't what's interesting about this tidbit.



It's the fact that 10,000 years into the future galactic civilization is still non-existent, seeing as how people haven't made it back into space yet

How does this bit surprise you?
You murdered everyone in the entire galaxy. The few inbred descendants of the crew of a single frigate aren't going to do much by themselves.

If anything this lends support to the argument that the mass relays wiped out their home star systems.

If you've read anything of what I posted concerning the mass relays being gone you would know that I agree with the notion that no matter what (assuming they didn't nova and kill the system) galactic civilization is dead. I argued about it until I got tired of arguing with people who don't understand how the galaxy / logistics / math works.

But, it IS interesting that BW seems to be indicating that this is what happens.

[count_4]

Asnine112 wrote...
It's the fact that 10,000 years into the future galactic civilization is still non-existent, seeing as how people haven't made it back into space yet

It's quite a stretch to deduce that from the 10,000 years honestly. For all we know it could be a planet that received a time capsule (if we ignore the asari/human stuff) and that is simply too far away from the main relay routes to be discovered or discover eezo tech themselves.
Or maybe they're still in their middle ages at the moment...

[LucidStrike]

N7Adept wrote...

Are we sure that in that cut scene people have not made it back into space or galactic travel?

I
wasn't getting that assumption myself. Am I missing it?

It was
kinda vague, really. When they child asks about space, the old person
merely speculates about other worlds and species, rather than being
specific, which would be strange since they just went through telling
the child VERY specific details in the life of Shepard.

[The Angry One]

LucidStrike wrote...
Why i Its it easier for people to believe that the exploding relays destroyed everything than to believe it was space magic that somehow did not? If it destroyed everything, how's Shepard still around after a 4K Destroy, and why's the Normandy NOT destroyed by the space magic?

Normandy was hit by the pulse, not a relay explosion, and still took heavy damage.
Shepard's survival in destroy makes no sense anyway, there's no way that's the Citadel and there's no way Shepard could survive a fall to Earth.

[Mims]

N7Adept wrote...

Are we sure that in that cut scene people have not made it back into space or galactic travel?

I wasn't getting that assumption myself. Am I missing it?

Well, if its a totally different species, then we have no idea. It could be pre-space flight. 

If its a bizarre, half human hybrid descendant of Queen Liara's mass propogation...honestly you could probably say anything and be right at that point. 

[Unit-Alpha]

Gibbed, being as awesome as ever.

That is very interesting, beside the point.

[Pelle6666]

The kids would ALWAYS be asari, everyone knows this!

[Dranume]

Although Gibbed gets respect for making some really cool stuff that is awesome with games, I doubt this is real.

Also lets take into account how easy it is for some to make it look like that person is the true source. Examples of this type of trick : cloned emails, stolen facebooks, Websites that seem legit. Im not saying he got hacked but some one with enough talent can make it look like that type of information came from Gibbed unless you met him / her in person and they physically handed you the file.

Is this true, who knows. Is this a troll attempt, there is a possibility.

[ConradsLaces]

Dranume wrote...

Although Gibbed gets respect for making some really cool stuff that is awesome with games, I doubt this is real.

Also lets take into account how easy it is for some to make it look like that person is the true source. Examples of this type of trick : cloned emails, stolen facebooks, Websites that seem legit. Im not saying he got hacked but some one with enough talent can make it look like that type of information came from Gibbed unless you met him / her in person and they physically handed you the file.

Is this true, who knows. Is this a troll attempt, there is a possibility.

It's real. All the information is there for you to verify on your own.

If someone has the time/talents to fake Gibbed's account and website, they'd probably have the time/talents to fake the ME3 Twitter feed, and spread some real lies.

[IhateEA-Mask]

Okay, one of following:

1) In DISTANT FUTURE, Asari and Humans have evolved somehow to same species/asari have stopped getting asari only children.

2) This is just director notes that nobody bothered to change when somebody pointed out that asari have only asari children.(who are female btw)

3) Considering that in final version old man and children are just silhoutes, it might be scrapped idea.

Please not that it says MAYBE looks like asari descent, not "is asari descent".

Modifié par IhateEA-Mask, 22 mars 2012 - 07:14 .

[wright1978]

Think i'll just pretend it is a stupid lost colony where Grandpa is a Dr Moreau wannabe

[Arken]

I get the feeling that child being asari was a variable that never made it though. There was probably meant to be an alternative scene where an asari child is speaking to an adult, and it's implied that the child is somehow related to Shepard based on the fact that it would be a different child based on Shepard's LI.

That's probably what Bioware had planned, but it might have been dropped since Shepard can't have children with all of his/her LIs.

Maybe. That's just me trying to make sense of this.

If not then, "Retcons are bad writing."

[Optimus J]

Half asari, half human. Someone was HIGH

[The Angry One]

IhateEA-Mask wrote...

Okay, one of following:

1) In DISTANT FUTURE, Asari and Humans have evolved somehow to same species/asari have stopped getting asari only children.

Asari have been the same with multiple species for tens of thousands of years.

2) This is just director notes that nobody bothered to change when somebody pointed out that asari have only asari children.(who are female btw)

3) Considering that in final version old man and children are just silhoutes, it might be scrapped idea.

That they had the idea in the first place. Implications disturbing.
There are some basic, intrinsic things to a fictional universe that anyone writing it should know, it's like planning out a Star Trek movie where Captain Kirk is celibate.

[IhateEA-Mask]

Arken wrote...

I get the feeling that child being asari was a variable that never made it though. There was probably meant to be an alternative scene where an asari child is speaking to an adult, and it's implied that the child is somehow related to Shepard based on the fact that it would be a different child based on Shepard's LI.

That's probably what Bioware had planned, but it might have been dropped since Shepard can't have children with all of his/her LIs.

Maybe. That's just me trying to make sense of this.

If not then, "Retcons are bad writing."

Thats what I said, it says "MAYBE" asari descent. Dunno what they were planning, but its pretty clear that its scrapped in final version.

But yeah, its kind of bizarre that they even had that idea

Modifié par IhateEA-Mask, 22 mars 2012 - 07:17 .

[LucidStrike]

The Angry One wrote...

LucidStrike wrote...
Why i Its it easier for people to believe that the exploding relays destroyed everything than to believe it was space magic that somehow did not? If it destroyed everything, how's Shepard still around after a 4K Destroy, and why's the Normandy NOT destroyed by the space magic?

Normandy was hit by the pulse, not a relay explosion, and still took heavy damage.
Shepard's survival in destroy makes no sense anyway, there's no way that's the Citadel and there's no way Shepard could survive a fall to Earth.

Nothing about the last 10 minutes makes sense, so I guess we all choose which arrangement of nonsense is least-worst with equal validity. LOL.

[ConradsLaces]

Watch... the next Mass Effect will be in this 10,000 year later universe... and it will break all the conventions about ME that we've been accustomed to... it'll be full of Derp, and complete garbage... and they'll say... "Art!"

[mione]

I think that could be Asari/Human line was taken to literally (I'm hoping at least) in Canon Shepard is male so using an body outline of a child that could be an Asari or Human is just about covering all of Shepards LI that he/she can conceive with.

. . .seriously 10,000 years and people don't know how put at least a monkey in space? . . .we totally screwed the galaxy. At this point they all would have been better off letting the reapers continue the cycle.

[Tleining]

Pelle6666 wrote...

The kids would ALWAYS be asari, everyone knows this!

uh, just a thought, but, not really. We have no idea what happens if an Asari gets impregnated by sperm. Or if that's even possible.

[GiaOmerta]

Asnine112 wrote...

FFS

Nothing about this said half Asari/Half human.

Please, reread the text. It says it might look a little bit Asari, maybe a little bit human. The silhouettes of both are almost identical. People are reading waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much into this

THIS!

[The Angry One]

There is no canon Shepard, don't start that again.

[ConradsLaces]

mione wrote...
. . .seriously 10,000 years and people don't know how put at least a monkey in space? . . .we totally screwed the galaxy. At this point they all would have been better off letting the reapers continue the cycle.

And that would probably be Bioware's official response to everything in ME3...
"Just give up... we did - and it made us a TON of cash!"