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[Bazedragon]

Justin2k wrote...

An American.  Writing in caps.  With a mispelt name.  And I think you were saying the Jennifer Epler bullying was a bioware publicity stunt?  Perfect example of what I'm talking about.  You are an obvious troll.

You need to get rid of these people Bioware.  This isn't Something Awful or 4Chan.

Considering there's probably more than a few Americans in the dev team, find it amusing that Justin can even consider him/herself a fan after saying that.

Not to mention, the majority of the Retake group have been doing their best to distance themselves from the deplorable acts of a few individuals.
As for the fund-raising for charity - whatever the motivation, it's going to a good cause, so don't insult the members of the group for doing something meaningful. It helps your case about as much as it helped that of certain so-called journalists who whined about the fundraising - not at all.

[x0 Misfit 0x]

Justin2k wrote...

Loving the hate from you guys. You know it is true.

You act above reproach yet your campaign has threatened to kill Jessica and Casey. In addition with all the negative press you've almost certainly cost people their jobs and probably not the people who wrote the ending.

Your opinions are all the same, you only need one thread. Go to Gamefaq's poll, more people want the ending to stay as it is than change it so get over it, you act like spoilt kids who's mom bought the wrong flavor candy.

* spoiled
Loving how you seem to think expressing opinions make us 'entitled'. Excuse me if I want an ending that has closer, and makes sense given the character and circumstances. A game is a product, and therefore if I am disappointed in an aspect of it, I will complain. I sincerly love this series and am appalled at your arrogance. You state that we are not real fans. How dare you imply that you know my thoughts, I love this series, and it is one of the few things that I will say I am a fan of. 

So, stop saying people should be banned if they thing the ending was awful. Like it or not, this is a serious issue for some people, and they would like to disscus it . I have not actually seen that many attacks on staff. For the most part, we are more civil then most campaigns. Sure, there are always people and topics that are extreme, but the whole group should not be banned due to outliers.

Modifié par x0 Misfit 0x, 22 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[Turtlicious]

this was a 4-star troll attempt.

CONGRATZ

[Tamcia]

Yeah, lets ban all people who disagree with you. Please go back to North Korea, kthxbye

Modifié par Tamcia, 22 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[Falcon509]

You can find your posts on your profile and even have emails sent to you to notify you of any changes. Also, the search function works fine if you're worried about finding the information you seek.

The whole point of a forum is to give people the ability to stand on a soapbox for a bit to voice opinions, ask questions, or answer other's questions. To claim that Retake ME members shouldn't have the ability to make new posts on the subjects on their choosing is just wrong. By your logic, Bioware should just make permanent threads for as many subjects as possible, so that nobody could do what you seem to think is wrong. Of course, by you making this topic, you're also doing exactly what you claim annoys you. So there...

As far as I can tell, the charity movement here has nothing to do about bragging. It was started up with a few things in mind. First, common attacks on RME members have been that we are entitled, selfish whiners. So people started donating to prove that they aren't, which is just proof of the truth. Second, the charity that RME members have donated to was also started to help show numbers. In this case, it has done well, because RME has raised over $75,000.00 if I'm not mistaken. Third, and this is my personal opinion and why I'm going to donate, I feel like I would rather give my money to a charity than give money to a company that might as well have spat in my face as opposed to releasing this game. And hell, did you consider that maybe this whole thing might be influenced by people actually wanting to do some good too?

The attacks that have taken place are unwarranted and heinous, true. However, they are not nearly as widespread as you seem to want to portray. Perhaps evidence of these actions should be presented on a case-by-case basis instead of making a blanket statement?

You should know that I myself am part of RME, and I have been a major fan of Bioware since I was first introduced to their work back in 2005. I love their games, and the Mass Effect series in particular. While not perfect, this series has brought me happiness and told an amazing story. Why I feel so frustrated with Bioware is how they handled the ending, and unless they do something about it, my patronization of their franchise will end, along with many others. Its as simple as that.

I am not a troll. I did not come from 4chan. I am a Male college student in his mid-twenties that works at a drugstore in middle America. I love this game, and I probably will for the most part. The only thing that makes me so upset is the resolution of the story... Because there isn't one. I could list every reason why I feel the way I do, or why the other RME members feel the same way, but that would be a waste of time. I implore you to do some actual reading and see what we have to say on the matter, instead of writing is off as enemies of the company we once loved. If we truly hated Bioware as much as you think, we wouldn't be here at all. We see chances for them to redeem this franchise and actually finish the tale of Commander Shepard's, and we're just pushing them to make a decision. We want to see them make up for the promises they broke. Or at least tell us they don't care, and that they will do nothing to fix their mistake.

As far as I can tell, all these RME members are fans of the game... We just want change. To want us banned for speaking our minds and thinking different than you is unfortunate, and i hope you change your mind.

[Aesieru]

Justin2k wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

Seriously man, i can't believe you guys threatened to kill Jessica Merizan. Some "charitable" people you are.

Instead of ignoring every response, why not provide proof and then tell us who actually did, we'll take action and report them.

If you search the forum you will see a thread made by someone apologising for the death threats.  And people with retake banners supported him for "seeing the error of his ways" and understood his anger because they felt bioware deserved it.  The actual threats were on jessica's twitter.  Retake members also threatened to kill casey.  You guys are evil.

I wonder if Hitler thought everyone was evil other than himself.

So people that were overreacting took the time to apologize? That's pretty big of them.

[ZodiEmish]

Justin2k wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

Seriously man, i can't believe you guys threatened to kill Jessica Merizan. Some "charitable" people you are.

Instead of ignoring every response, why not provide proof and then tell us who actually did, we'll take action and report them.

If you search the forum you will see a thread made by someone apologising for the death threats.  And people with retake banners supported him for "seeing the error of his ways" and understood his anger because they felt bioware deserved it.  The actual threats were on jessica's twitter.  Retake members also threatened to kill casey.  You guys are evil.

Why can't you provide this yourself.

If your going to make an arguement then YOU.. yourself needs to have the evidence to back up your arguement. No evidence no arguement.

[Bazedragon]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Ah people, you do know the OP is trolling and most of you seem to be falling for the bait right now.

Yeah, well, sometimes falling for bait is worth a few good laughs.

[Mavaras]

Justin2k wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

Seriously man, i can't believe you guys threatened to kill Jessica Merizan. Some "charitable" people you are.

Instead of ignoring every response, why not provide proof and then tell us who actually did, we'll take action and report them.

If you search the forum you will see a thread made by someone apologising for the death threats.  And people with retake banners supported him for "seeing the error of his ways" and understood his anger because they felt bioware deserved it.  The actual threats were on jessica's twitter.  Retake members also threatened to kill casey.  You guys are evil.

People say dumb ****. Welcome to the internet. Now go back and look at the other 99 percent of the conversations.

[JasonC Shepard]

Justin2k wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

Seriously man, i can't believe you guys threatened to kill Jessica Merizan. Some "charitable" people you are.

Instead of ignoring every response, why not provide proof and then tell us who actually did, we'll take action and report them.

If you search the forum you will see a thread made by someone apologising for the death threats.  And people with retake banners supported him for "seeing the error of his ways" and understood his anger because they felt bioware deserved it.  The actual threats were on jessica's twitter.  Retake members also threatened to kill casey.  You guys are evil.

I think I saw the thread you were talking about.  That was a dude with poor english that had made a writing mistake.  The fact that you group us all together is rather sad and immature.  Also calling us evil is another immature statement by you.

[gudman]

Justin2k wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

Seriously man, i can't believe you guys threatened to kill Jessica Merizan. Some "charitable" people you are.

Instead of ignoring every response, why not provide proof and then tell us who actually did, we'll take action and report them.

If you search the forum you will see a thread made by someone apologising for the death threats.  And people with retake banners supported him for "seeing the error of his ways" and understood his anger because they felt bioware deserved it.  The actual threats were on jessica's twitter.  Retake members also threatened to kill casey.  You guys are evil.

You just lost at this, and it hasn't even started getting interesting. You suck at it, my good sir. Don't try to pull that stuff again, or we'll ignore you. 

Well... most of us. 

[Stephanid98]

Justin opened a thread yesterday that got locked - just let this one go too.

[Theb82]

I think people realise its trolling but were playing along because were bored

[2484Stryker]

Deleted.  Didn't realize he's trolling...i suck

Modifié par 2484Stryker, 22 mars 2012 - 09:35 .

[Dretlin]

Justin2k wrote...

Dear Bioware,

It's great you listen to your fans and all but this is going too far.  I come to this forum to discuss the game and every single thread about the game moves away so fast with more and more complaints about the ending.

You've set up several feedback threads for these people, but they all feel entitled to start up their own as if they're adding something new and interesting to the situation.  Every single one just reiterates old points and the positive threads such as favorite levels, characters and worlds get lost under all their hate.

In addition they keep bragging about raising money for charity as if that entitles them to something, but to me and several others this seems like a horrid and sick way to get publicity for themselves.  Real charity comes from the heart, not out of wanting something. 

Finally the attacks on the staff and members from this group have been horrible.  The community leader no longer feels able to post in the community because they are so vicious towards her, having given death threats and lots of hate.  In addition people who like the ending have been told to kill themselves and threatened.

These people are not real fans.  Most of them come from 4chan and are simply trolling for no reason.  Real Bioware fans respect the hard work of your staff, and enjoy the game flaws and all and appreciate you for listening and being proactive. 

It's great you give these people the time of day but the Retake movement is ruining the community and forums for the real fans who support you through good and bad.  Please do something about it.

You are tarring an entire community with the same brush. The majority of the
feedback that is critical of the ending has been measured and relevant. If you
really struggle to comprehend that other opinions on the game conflict with yours,
you will probably find forums a rather upsetting place to be.

So no, I do not agree with your idea and banning everyone that has an opinion you disagree with.

Also, I am yet to see anyone "bragging" about giving to charity. And your shallow ideas of what motivation one needs to donate to charity are naive
at best.


I doubt this topic is anything but baiting. Which is a shame, as I am interested in hearing all genuine views.

Modifié par Dretlin, 22 mars 2012 - 09:36 .

[Alexraptor1]

I do declare, I have never seen more obvious flamebaiting.

[defenestrated]

Grasich wrote...

This is possibly the most absurd trolling attempt I've seen in a long time. So, I guess I should give props for that.

It is kind of impressive, yeah.

[Justin2k]

Aesieru wrote...
 In any case Jessica actually made some pretty big insults to the community and they were probably irrational, possibly drunk, or just angry and expressed themselves in the anonymous way that the internet allows.

You are confusing Jessica Merizan (bioware community support leader) with Jennifer Epler.  Jessica was never anything but lovely with you guys, staying up until 3am her own time to answer questions.  And you threatened to kill her.

[MayaBalrin]

I have been on the boards for over a week now. I keep hearing about individuals (or in some cases the entire retake mass effect movement) being rude, mean, vicious, and hateful. I have not read every thread or every post but I have seen very little of this.

I have read interactions with Jessica M. and I agree some individual posts could be considered hostile but certainly not threatening. I have seen individuals in both the retake movement and keep ending movement be rude and inconsiderate of each others opinions. I have not seen or read any death threats though given the nature of the internet and how easily it can be to contact someone I cannot say an over zealous fan has not done this.

I am sorry that a few bad eggs have spoiled your experience on this forum but I hope you will see reason and understand that not everyone in the movement is as bad as you think. I understand your frustration that you cannot find/ keep topics about the game at the front of the threads. People are upset and wish to express themselves. Please allow for that to happen. I hope you can also find a way of expressing your enjoyment in the game without asking that an entire group pf individuals be banned.

Modifié par MayaBalrin, 22 mars 2012 - 09:36 .

[garf]

Justin2k wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

Seriously man, i can't believe you guys threatened to kill Jessica Merizan. Some "charitable" people you are.

Instead of ignoring every response, why not provide proof and then tell us who actually did, we'll take action and report them.

If you search the forum you will see a thread made by someone apologising for the death threats.  And people with retake banners supported him for "seeing the error of his ways" and understood his anger because they felt bioware deserved it.  The actual threats were on jessica's twitter.  Retake members also threatened to kill casey.  You guys are evil.

THis is the first I've heard of it. I'm a member of Retake and I certainly do not condone death threats. Am I evil too?

[MrNighttime]

Yes there have been some attacks ( on both sides of the issue I might add) but to try to take away our ability to voice our displeasure with the endings, that's just rude.

[Silveralen]

Kidroz wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

Seriously man, i can't believe you guys threatened to kill Jessica Merizan. Some "charitable" people you are.

I wasnt aware we were all threatning to kill anybody.

Does I hope you die count? If so, then yes.

In seriousness, that was terrible and no one should support that. Do you really think you can attribute one persons actions to the entire group? If we all felt that way, it would be threats, rather than a single lone threat from a single lone crazy.

I once got stabbed because someone wanted th new iPad when it first came out. Does that make all Mac fanboys violent muggers? (and yes that actually happened).

[Teddie Sage]

So much lack of maturity over a game that is meant for 18 years old people and more... TC, I disagree with you.

[Gileads]

You guys need to stop trying to reason with "true fans" (read trolls) who refuse to listen to your crazy ideas of not wanting the entire group to be judged by the words of one crazy person. And I'd love to see the articles that come out if Bioware suddenly suppressed all of the negative comments after the nonstop talk of how they are listening.