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[PsychoWARD23]

I sure don't think so.

[MJF JD]

i dont either. the expanding field doesnt seem that big a deal and the explosion at the end rarely comes into use since whatever was in the singularity is dead by then.

[avantoreon]

The expanding field seems pretty useless. In my experience, the explosion at the end is really quite powerful if you rely heavily on biotic combos, though.

[PsychoWARD23]

avantoreon wrote...

The expanding field seems pretty useless. In my experience, the explosion at the end is really quite powerful if you rely heavily on biotic combos, though.

But I usually just detonate it before it runs out.

[Nerevar-as]

I think detonation combos depend on the Rank of the powers, so a 6th level Singularity will do more damage than a 5th one. As for the upgrade themselves, not really. The detonation should happen when you cast another Singularity to have any tactical use. As it is it isn´t very useful, not even at chokepoints.

[Malanek]

Nerevar-as wrote...

I think detonation combos depend on the Rank of the powers, so a 6th level Singularity will do more damage than a 5th one. As for the upgrade themselves, not really. The detonation should happen when you cast another Singularity to have any tactical use. As it is it isn´t very useful, not even at chokepoints.

That's what I have been told. It seems to be worth it simply for a more powerful biotic detonation (not the natural singularity detonantion). You have plenty of points.

[Sakaja]

Rank 6 is worth it. Biotic combo explosion damage depends on the rank of the powers being used (both setup and detonating), so rank 6 singularities will do more damage than rank 5.

Edit:  I retested, and the Singularity Detonate evolution does NOT get triggered via biotic combos.  It's still useful to get rank 6 for the increased biotic combo damage.

Also, the Detonate evolution of singularity applies not only when singularity runs out, but ALSO when you detonate it via biotic combo. So if you choose Detonate instead of Expand, your biotic combo explosions will do more damage. I've tested this and verified in game.  Hmm, correction:  I may not have evolved to Expand in my testing - will test again and edit this post to make sure I'm testing Rank 6 Evolve vs. Rank 6 Detonate biotic combo damage.

Note that power bonuses don't apply to biotic detonations. However, power bonuses DO apply to the singularity Detonate evolution itself, so you do get bigger explosions via power upgrades when you use singularity for biotic combos (normal biotic explosion + singularity detonation).

Modifié par Sakaja, 23 mars 2012 - 01:20 .

[PsychoWARD23]

Sakaja wrote...

Rank 6 is worth it. Biotic combo explosion damage depends on the rank of the powers being used (both setup and detonating), so rank 6 singularities will do more damage than rank 5.

Also, the Detonate evolution of singularity applies not only when singularity runs out, but ALSO when you detonate it via biotic combo. So if you choose Detonate instead of Expand, your biotic combo explosions will do more damage. I've tested this and verified in game.

Note that power bonuses don't apply to biotic detonations. However, power bonuses DO apply to the singularity Detonate evolution itself, so you do get bigger explosions via power upgrades when you use singularity for biotic combos (normal biotic explosion + singularity detonation).

ohhhhhhhh, cool

[Sakaja]

I edited my post - I'm not 100% certain my testing was correct in determining whether or not the Detonate evolution triggers on biotic detonations. Will test again and follow up.

[Malanek]

Sakaja wrote...
Also, the Detonate evolution of singularity applies not only when singularity runs out, but ALSO when you detonate it via biotic combo. So if you choose Detonate instead of Expand, your biotic combo explosions will do more damage. I've tested this and verified in game.  Hmm, correction:  I may not have evolved to Expand in my testing - will test again and edit this post to make sure I'm testing Rank 6 Evolve vs. Rank 6 Detonate biotic combo damage.

Note that power bonuses don't apply to biotic detonations. However, power bonuses DO apply to the singularity Detonate evolution itself, so you do get bigger explosions via power upgrades when you use singularity for biotic combos (normal biotic explosion + singularity detonation).

Let us know what you find. I came to the opposite conclusion but could easily be wrong, I didn't run with the detonation for very long. 

[Lilinka]

I've found it worthwhile as a combo for my adept; I throw a rank 6 down at a choke point, liara throws a rank 6 down elsewhere, and I detonate hers, or vice versa.

[Crolley]

I think the idea behind the detonating singularity is to make it more useful against protected targets. While singularity doesn't draw shielded targets into it, it does continuously stagger them and decreases the lifespan of the singularity, causing it to explode sooner. If it's staggering multiple protected enemies then it actually explodes fairly soon after it's deployed.

I've used it a bit and it's useful if you just want to fire it off into a pair of Centurions then go off to do something else. I'm not sure if it effects manual detonations via other biotic powers or not, though.

Modifié par Crolley, 23 mars 2012 - 12:36 .

[MrDudley]

I guess you'd want the explosion if you have your singularity set for a short duration. Short duration = singularity to detonate more often  as will be more likely to expire before you cast another one..

Smells like the decoy and drone explosion.

Modifié par MrDudley, 23 mars 2012 - 12:53 .

[Sakaja]

I corrected my earlier post. I retested, and unfortunately, the Singularity Detonate evolution does NOT get triggered via biotic combos. Letting singularity run out and detonate on its own left enemies caught in the explosion at 1/2 health. Using singularity/throw biotic combo also left enemies at 1/2 health, for both Detonate and Expand evolutions. I would expect that if the effects stacked, the Detonate evolution would nearly kill the enemies (1/2 for Detonate, and 1/2 for biotic combo explosion).

Modifié par Sakaja, 23 mars 2012 - 01:31 .

[PsychoWARD23]

Sakaja wrote...

I corrected my earlier post. I retested, and unfortunately, the Singularity Detonate evolution does NOT get triggered via biotic combos. Letting singularity run out and detonate on its own left enemies caught in the explosion at 1/2 health. Using singularity/throw biotic combo also left enemies at 1/2 health, for both Detonate and Expand evolutions. I would expect that if the effects stacked, the Detonate evolution would nearly kill the enemies (1/2 for Detonate, and 1/2 for biotic combo explosion).

But does the detonation damage at least increase with Rank 6 over Rank 5?

[Sakaja]

PsychoWARD23 wrote...

But does the detonation damage at least increase with Rank 6 over Rank 5?

Yes, Singularity Rank 6 biotic combo explosions do more damage than Rank 5.  My first test confirmed this.

[The Spamming Troll]

yes because 6 X 6 is better then not having 6 X 6.