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[AllergevKev]

The fact of the matter is that they're not going to change the current ending. At most they are going to add more choices to the Star Child encounter, as well as clear up some plot holes, and then add an epilogue after each ending.

Personally, I'm fine with that, but I know many won't be

[NM_Che56]

jspiess wrote...

Master Che wrote...

Yeah, Dr. Ray came out and DIRECTED THIS PERSONALLY. oO_Oo

If a founder comes and says they'll make it right then I can't help but think it WILL happen. He doesn't want egg on his face for making promises that aren't kept. Bosses don't stick their necks out to get chopped

I sure hope he does not. 

Side note: has Deception been fixed or were they lying about that?

I don't think ray commented.  I'm sure it takes a little while to fix a whole book littered with errors in canon than a vague or strange ending 

[devSin]

It really depends on what they do. If they deliver something that doesn't really make much improvement (based on all the negative feedback) or even try to provide what they claimed the end of the trilogy would be, then I'd probably be disappointed or even angry.

If they do put out something that really does seem to be a "correction", I suppose I would feel good about it, and I would certainly be happy that I could enjoy all the future ME3 content.

It's definitely going to be interesting to see which direction they go come April.

Modifié par devSin, 22 mars 2012 - 11:56 .

[The Real Bowser]

Too vague. We'll see. If they do nothing, however, I guarantee I will never purchase another Bioware game, DLC, or product ever again.  Any attempt to fix this game I will acknowledged in some way, however.  Even if I didn't like it, at least they listened enough to do something.

Modifié par The Real Bowser, 22 mars 2012 - 11:57 .

[Grasich]

If they actually correct it and give it an ending worthy of the series, I'll be ok with them again. Everyone makes mistakes. The question is, can they own up to them and fix them?

[sgreco1970]

if indoctrination theory is correct which i now believe it is, the ending is brilliant. if they listen to the ppl on these boards and change the ending to some dumb "shepard pushes the button with 1 second left on the countdown timer and ewoks dance and sing!" ending instead (or for those who wnat the renegade ending, he stabs an eqok thru the heard and restarts the bomb) then yeah I'd feel like bioware caved and the players ruined the game.

[Total Biscuit]

If they're good enough to admit their mistake, fix it, give us a wider selection of endings with real variety and distinctly different results and consequences, then I'd love them again.

Admiting you screwed up and fixing it takes character and integrity. Damned fine and admirable qualities in a person, and amazing in a company.

They'd have my loyalty and money for life basically.

[Zolt51]

Aedan276 wrote...
If they add a 4th option to reject Star Child I'll feel right about it. 

Yes I agree this is a must have. Imagine the epic cinematic of the allied fleet being torn to shreds by the reapers:

- Hackett: Shepard *** heavy static*** fire that thing already!
- S: Negative sir, there's a kid up there and I don't agree with his choices.
- Hackett: *** explosions ****** static ***


On  a more serious note: Guys, don't get your expectations too high or they'll be crushed again. With that last statement, I'm pretty sure all Bioware is planning is some additional "epilogue" contents. I'd be very, very surprised if they added some new choices. Maybe expand the catalyst scene a bit to provide better explanation.

Modifié par Zolt51, 23 mars 2012 - 12:04 .

[toolfan9284]

Annoyed, I don't like being jerked around. Cautious and skeptical about future release. If it's just some mockery and we're told to "deal with it", I walk. Stepping up to the plate and taking a swing at "fixing" this charade will get them some bonus points. Not enough to pre-order a BW title anytime soon...but it will go a long way into healing the wounds.

[Grasich]

sgreco1970 wrote...

if indoctrination theory is correct which i now believe it is, the ending is brilliant. if they listen to the ppl on these boards and change the ending to some dumb "shepard pushes the button with 1 second left on the countdown timer and ewoks dance and sing!" ending instead (or for those who wnat the renegade ending, he stabs an eqok thru the heard and restarts the bomb) then yeah I'd feel like bioware caved and the players ruined the game.

What if the ewoks were replaced with Volus?

Would you really be able to reject an ending where you see a group of Volus (Voluses? Voli? What is the plural of Volus, anyway?) dance?

[Wattoes]

A new ending will never feel as good as it would have if it was our "initial" experience - but it will improve player relations and save the franchise. I wont go so far as to say id be happy, but id be relieved and faith restored.

Just adding to the abomination of an ending or doing something minor is pretty unacceptable in my eyes. Ya its something, but its simply not enough.

[CzarViktor]

Think about this though. If they change it and Shepard lives would you really want the next Mass Effect to be all about him again? I like Shepard, don't get me wrong but I kinda "note the kinda there" agree with Bioware's current ending. It provides closure and gives us the knowledge that in the next game, if there is one, will have a new plot for a new hero to follow.

[JiGsAw2453]

Total Biscuit wrote...

If they're good enough to admit their mistake, fix it, give us a wider selection of endings with real variety and distinctly different results and consequences, then I'd love them again.

Admiting you screwed up and fixing it takes character and integrity. Damned fine and admirable qualities in a person, and amazing in a company.

They'd have my loyalty and money for life basically.

This... Only with blue babies.

[Grasich]

CzarViktor wrote...

Think about this though. If they change it and Shepard lives would you really want the next Mass Effect to be all about him again? I like Shepard, don't get me wrong but I kinda "note the kinda there" agree with Bioware's current ending. It provides closure and gives us the knowledge that in the next game, if there is one, will have a new plot for a new hero to follow.

There is no closure! All they would have needed to do is just set the game 100-200 years in the future. As is, they can't possibly make a sequel. And even if that was their goal, they could have left it open to one, and just refused to do so.

Personally, I think having a bunch of people crying for a sequel is better than a bunch of people crying that the last game in the series is borked.

[Andur4]

It depends on how it's done. Lets say the ending is changed so that our choices truly influence the ending, it gives a sense of closure, and the endings have more variety based on what we choose.

Anything close to that, and I would have nothing but respect for them, and certainly would continue to support them.

[Diokana]

Depends on how they go about it. Right now if they do anything at all they'll be better off than they currently are, but how much better off remains to be seen. They would fully win me back as a loyal customer if they can do it brilliantly and make it have the emotional punch that it should have had in the first place (in a good way this time.)

[zimm2142]

If they do it well, I will proudly point to this whole affair as bioware stepping up and listening to the concerns of the player base, just as I do about EVE online, and the CSM. (Note: a CSM type group might be useful here in this situation).

[CzarViktor]

Grasich wrote...

CzarViktor wrote...

Think about this though. If they change it and Shepard lives would you really want the next Mass Effect to be all about him again? I like Shepard, don't get me wrong but I kinda "note the kinda there" agree with Bioware's current ending. It provides closure and gives us the knowledge that in the next game, if there is one, will have a new plot for a new hero to follow.

There is no closure! All they would have needed to do is just set the game 100-200 years in the future. As is, they can't possibly make a sequel. And even if that was their goal, they could have left it open to one, and just refused to do so.

Personally, I think having a bunch of people crying for a sequel is better than a bunch of people crying that the last game in the series is borked.

The closure is that you die to save the galaxy. It's not a great closing but it is there none the less. I agree with you that its not what I would have wanted but none the less we have a form of it. Also think about this. The game was supposed to be a space epic/opera. Epics and operas generally end in a very... depressing or sad way.

[calis_riakel]

I'd be pleased if it's done properly and not just rushed to try and appease us. It would also mean they wouldn't lose m as a customer. BUT i woukld be extremely cautious about anything they release based off how this and DA 2 have played out.

[Grasich]

CzarViktor wrote...

Grasich wrote...

CzarViktor wrote...

Think about this though. If they change it and Shepard lives would you really want the next Mass Effect to be all about him again? I like Shepard, don't get me wrong but I kinda "note the kinda there" agree with Bioware's current ending. It provides closure and gives us the knowledge that in the next game, if there is one, will have a new plot for a new hero to follow.

There is no closure! All they would have needed to do is just set the game 100-200 years in the future. As is, they can't possibly make a sequel. And even if that was their goal, they could have left it open to one, and just refused to do so.

Personally, I think having a bunch of people crying for a sequel is better than a bunch of people crying that the last game in the series is borked.

The closure is that you die to save the galaxy. It's not a great closing but it is there none the less. I agree with you that its not what I would have wanted but none the less we have a form of it. Also think about this. The game was supposed to be a space epic/opera. Epics and operas generally end in a very... depressing or sad way.

I would say the fact that epics and operas generally in a depressing manner is an argument for why this one should have the option to end in a "happy" way as well. Breaking the mold a bit is good, imo.

There wasn't nearly enough explanation into the options for me to feel any closure about them, nor was there any closure for me due to the fact that the galaxy is royally screwed. I hate ending games with them in an almost worse state than when I began.

[Hexley UK]

Dunno until I see it.

[Feraiin]

I am not sure, to be honest. I was never offended by GodChild or the Stargazers, but what reall bothered me was the limited choice, no impact of previous choices, destruction of the relay-network (essentially dooming the galaxy) and of course Shepards out-of-character portrayal.

I could probably accept a change that explains the current plotholes while maintaining what we got to have actually happened.

I would be quite surprised and very grateful for an ending that played out differently from either the final run to the beam or after Andersons death, leaving out GodKid and all that mess to make room for something new.

It would be amazing and very cool if the Indoctrination turned out to be real, Shep wakes up and kicks some Reaper-rear.

But yes, destruction of the relays and the fleeing Normandy will have to go, otherwise the ME-universe is pretty much over.

I trust Bioware to the degree that they stick to their "we're listening"-word and know that GodKid might not be the best idea after all.

However, what they ultimately do, what choices we get and wether or not it'll be paid or free DLC, is completely up to them.

[Doctoglethorpe]

If their fix is good, if they put real effort into it, enough to fix this feeling many of us have that our entire journey was for naught in the end, if don't just phone in some cheap little thing as a minimum effort to try to silence us, then I will applaud their humility and willingness to listen to their fans and do the right thing. 

Forgive and forget. 

And finally be able to fully appriciate the best game I've ever played that the ending's current form sours.

[Tovanus]

I can just see the "clarification" they plan for the endings. All it will take is some extra dialogue.

Starchild: I am a deus ex machina.

Shepherd: I don't understand, what does that mean?

Starchild: It means the writers never had plan. I'm basically a stand-in for the writers. Get it? I control the Reapers because I have the power to write in any ending I want for this story.

Shepherd: Will it be consistent with the first two games?

Starchild: I have a short memory, so no.

[FellishBeast]

It would be one of the best games I've ever played.