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[Soma Holiday]

I hear everyone talk about how wonderful and honorable his death was but to me he died because of the krogan being impatient.

It's not like curing the genophage right then and there would have somehow made a larger krogan force to take arms against the reapers.  The cure was complete!  If the krogans had been patient they could have gotten their cure without Mordin having to sacrifice himself.  The cure could have been distributed at a later time without needing the exploding ozone tower thingy...Shep could have told the krogans you will ONLY get your cure after you help us fight the reapers, and then everyone could have lived and been happy (you know, except for all the people who died in the fight.)

mordin is probably my favorite character and it was bad enough that I had no choice to save him...but realizing this is just even worse...

[likta_]

Well, only that Wrex clearly said that without a cure NOW, he is not doing anything. Mordin died for nothing is correct, but not because of this...

[Hepzi3]

Dont know how long Krogan pregnancy lasts, nor how long the ME3 plot runs. So youre argument in itself is debatable. Assume a Krogan pregnancy is 2 weeks and ME3 goes on for 2 years.....yeah thats a lot of mini Krogan....plus as we saw in ME2, they can fight like 4 days after being born....and all of that helps Palaven, and that was the goal anyway.

[sadako]

You can save him. You have to lie to the krogans though.

[StartOrange]

You can save him. If you don't save Maleons data and kill Wrex in Mass Effect 1 you can persuade him not to do it.

[Zix13]

sadako wrote...

You can save him. You have to lie to the krogans though.

Well, you also have to have killed wrex and destroyed maelons data.

[Calibrations Expert]

Everyone died for nothing...

Except Shepard, I guess.

[Mustang678]

you can save him if you kill wrex, don't save maelon's data, and sabotage the cure

[AlexXIV]

They had no choice. The Krogans said explicitly that they only help if the genophage is cured first. What bugs me is that you can't choose to tell the Krogans to **** off and go to war without them.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

StartOrange wrote...

You can save him. If you don't save Maleons data and kill (or not recruit) Wrex in Mass Effect 1 you can persuade him not to do it.

Slight edit to point out something else you can do to resolve the situation, I did the bracket version on my main FemShep.

Wreav isn't so arsey with you if you didn't shoot Wrex, liked seeing the difference more clearer in ME3 specially as the import screen acknowledges it too (unlike ME2 import screen which didn't really).

As for the topic, no he didn't die for nothing. If Shepard had told Wrex or Wreav what you suggest, they would have walked and not only would we have lost Krogan support but Turian support too.

[brian_breed]

He died so that the Krogans might exhaust their precious few resources faster, now that there's no way for them to leave their solar system.

[Aimi]

Soma Holiday wrote...

If the krogans had been patient they could have gotten their cure without Mordin having to sacrifice himself.

"If we had some bruallki, we could have bruallki and Menkooro..."

"...if we had some Menkooro."

[BatmanPWNS]

Wrex and Wreav weren't having it. They said cure or get lost. And if they didn't help then no Turian support and if no Turian support than you don't have the big powerhouse (Turians and Krogans) and then the Reaper would screw you harder than the endings.

[Atrabilious]

Problem with that; there was a reaper filling the atmosphere of Tuchanka with what I presume to be poison. Unless that's what The Shroud spews out normally.

It was either kill the reaper and apply the cure while you're there, or forget about having Krogan as allies since they'll presumably be choking to death.

I know Krogans are generally immune to toxins, but I can't really see any other reason (providing the above is correct) for reaper forces to be defending the shroud and an ominous green cloud beginning to blanket the planet.

And if even I'm wrong with all of the above; the bottom line was Tuchanka had a Reaper hanging about, no way they'd abandon their planet with that thing lurking around. Which means no turian help, which means humanity is screwed. It was either help the krogan or everyone is boned.

Modifié par Atrabilious, 22 mars 2012 - 11:07 .

[SirBob1613]

Well they had to do it right away because the reapers where destorying the ozone thing. Also krogans mutiple very fast thats why they used the genophage to begin with

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Calibrations Expert wrote...

Everyone died for nothing...

Except Shepard, I guess.

Shepard died for the most nothing of all.

[AlexXIV]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Wrex and Wreav weren't having it. They said cure or get lost. And if they didn't help then no Turian support and if no Turian support than you don't have the big powerhouse (Turians and Krogans) and then the Reaper would screw you harder than the endings.

I don't dispute that it is a bad choice. I just wish I had one.

[AlexXIV]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Calibrations Expert wrote...

Everyone died for nothing...

Except Shepard, I guess.

Shepard died for the most nothing of all.

Well with the current ending, which means Reapers win, yeah, everyone died for nothing.

[GabrielK]

Everyone died for nothing...

Yeah that's true, everyone that died essentially died for nothing. Like I said in another thread, with the state of the game as it stands currently, every sacrifice made, every obstacle overcome, every victory achieved...is ultimately meaningless.

[Nighthunteer]

brian_breed wrote...

He died so that the Krogans might exhaust their precious few resources faster, now that there's no way for them to leave their solar system.

Not to mention that the majority of their forces, the warriors that is mostly all the males - are stuck in the solsystem.

[Rabbidsquirrel88]

He didn't want to be a part of the ending. He claimed it was "very...problematic."

[Sashimi_taco]

The would not have been able to get the cure after the endings because the salarians would never have been able to make it to tachunka because THE RELAYS ARE ALL EXPLODED!

[Nu-Nu]

Well Palaven wouldn't help unless they got Krogan help, and Krogan wouldn't help unless there was a cure. Mordin pretty much died and Shepard got two allies out of it.

Also, with the mass relays destoryed, even if Mordin did live, there be no way for him to get back to Tuchanka to cure the Krogans, so Bioware is pretty much forcing it upon you to cure there and then,

[nametry629]

Soma Holiday wrote...

I hear everyone talk about how wonderful and honorable his death was but to me he died because of the krogan being impatient.

It's not like curing the genophage right then and there would have somehow made a larger krogan force to take arms against the reapers.  The cure was complete!  If the krogans had been patient they could have gotten their cure without Mordin having to sacrifice himself.  The cure could have been distributed at a later time without needing the exploding ozone tower thingy...Shep could have told the krogans you will ONLY get your cure after you help us fight the reapers, and then everyone could have lived and been happy (you know, except for all the people who died in the fight.)

mordin is probably my favorite character and it was bad enough that I had no choice to save him...but realizing this is just even worse...

You are discounting how Mordin feels about what he did.
There is a thread in this section about the worst thing you could possibly do in ME3. It wont really be a spoiler for you as its not something you would contemplate judging by your post,

[ApuLunas]

Soma Holiday wrote...

I hear everyone talk about how wonderful and honorable his death was but to me he died because of the krogan being impatient.

It's not like curing the genophage right then and there would have somehow made a larger krogan force to take arms against the reapers.  The cure was complete!  If the krogans had been patient they could have gotten their cure without Mordin having to sacrifice himself.  The cure could have been distributed at a later time without needing the exploding ozone tower thingy...Shep could have told the krogans you will ONLY get your cure after you help us fight the reapers, and then everyone could have lived and been happy (you know, except for all the people who died in the fight.)

mordin is probably my favorite character and it was bad enough that I had no choice to save him...but realizing this is just even worse...

mordin was a mentor, and didn't die for nothing... sacrifice of mordin decided my choice in final. but what can i say, the ending haters have no idea which game they played anyway. i think bioware is also responsible for such ruckus, level of dramatization caused too much emotional attachment...

Modifié par ApuLunas, 22 mars 2012 - 11:13 .