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[Soma Holiday]

AlienSpaceBats wrote...

The plot demanded it because reasons.

best reasoning I've seen all day sir!!

nevar00 wrote...

Actually
Thane can live if Kirrahe is alive and if you never talk to Thane until
after the Cerberus attack.  Kirrahe apparently saves the Counciler
instead.

Thane was my lover, how could I just NOT talk to him at the hostipal? Plus I feel like that outcome is just a possible hole in the plot bioware didn't consider so he would still die of his disease I just wouldn't be there when it happened...

[Coolfaec]

Rabbidsquirrel88 wrote...

He didn't want to be a part of the ending. He claimed it was "very...problematic."

[Rencor2k]

the krogans have waited over 1000 years. im sure they could wait a few more days with the cure

[Red Dust]

Mordin died because he refused to see reason. Because he put his misguided  personal quest for absolution in front of the needs of the galaxy! Because he lacked vision!

Don't you turn your back on me, Dr Solus!

Modifié par Red Dust, 22 mars 2012 - 11:41 .

[kalasaurus]

There was a whole sense of urgency with the Reapers coming in, but yeah. It would have been nice if the krogan showed some kind of patience. To them, this was a matter of survival. They have all the cards and using their war efforts as leverage in a galactic war about the survival of all life was the only way to get the turians and humans on board.

Of course, the krogan are dead too if they don't help. Reapers are attacking them too. But, I guess to them it was either now or never.

[Aimi]

Rencor2k wrote...

the krogans have waited over 1000 years. im sure they could wait a few more days with the cure

It would be a few more months, if it came at all. Wrex and Wreav were uninterested in giving something for nothing.

This isn't difficult to understand.

[EnerPrime]

To be blunt, the only things that are bigger threats to the galaxy than the genophageless krogan are the Reapers themselves. These are a people that nuked themselves to near-extinction multiple times. If they had won the krogan rebellions, they probably would have happily genocided the Turians, Salarians, Asari and any other races that lived on worlds they could inhabit, including us humans when we showed up. The Dalatrass was right when she pointed out the krogan lack of mercy. Nobody trusts the krogan because they already tried to wipe out the galaxy once. I really don't blame to salarians for the genophage, and think Mordin is wrong to want to cure it.

It says bad things about the Krogan that the only reason they are not exticnt is the fact that Turians and Salarians decided pure genocide was immoral.

[Canned Bullets]

Well it's up to Wrex's wife to keep things in order. Hopefulyl she has as much power as Wrex to keep the Krogan peaceful.

[Red Dust]

EnerPrime wrote...

To be blunt, the only things that are bigger threats to the galaxy than the genophageless krogan are the Reapers themselves. These are a people that nuked themselves to near-extinction multiple times. If they had won the krogan rebellions, they probably would have happily genocided the Turians, Salarians, Asari and any other races that lived on worlds they could inhabit, including us humans when we showed up. The Dalatrass was right when she pointed out the krogan lack of mercy. Nobody trusts the krogan because they already tried to wipe out the galaxy once. I really don't blame to salarians for the genophage, and think Mordin is wrong to want to cure it.

It says bad things about the Krogan that the only reason they are not exticnt is the fact that Turians and Salarians decided pure genocide was immoral.

The Krogan where indeed shown more mercy than they would have shown, where the roles reversed. Also consider that the Genophage is only "killing" the Krogan because they're all Mercinaries, Bandits, Thugs, Pirates, Slavers. They're dying in battle faster than the adjusted birth-rate is producing offspring. 

They're killing themselves. 

[7he Island Head]

If Wreav is in control... It just sounds like a big mess waiting to happen...

[ahandsomeshark]

nevar00 wrote...

Soma Holiday wrote...

magor1988x wrote...

So did Thane & Legion. Just thought I'd point that out.

two of my other favorite characters, so yes I understand this, but Thane's death was scripted and Legion's sacrifice couldn't have been avoided by simply postponing it to another date, unlike Mordin's.

As for the reaper...I don't understand why that effects the curing of the genophage in the slightest, or Mordin's sacrifice, especially considering some players DON'T actually cure the genophage...

I realize my whole argument is based on circumstance, but i'm trying to fight for my scientist salarian here so forgive my hope that wrex could have possibly seen my reasoning, waited a week or so, and spared me the pain of having to watch my friend die.

Actually Thane can live if Kirrahe is alive and if you never talk to Thane until after the Cerberus attack.  Kirrahe apparently saves the Counciler instead.

what happens if they're both dead?

[ahandsomeshark]

Soma Holiday wrote...

AlienSpaceBats wrote...

The plot demanded it because reasons.

best reasoning I've seen all day sir!!

nevar00 wrote...

Actually
Thane can live if Kirrahe is alive and if you never talk to Thane until
after the Cerberus attack.  Kirrahe apparently saves the Counciler
instead.

Thane was my lover, how could I just NOT talk to him at the hostipal? Plus I feel like that outcome is just a possible hole in the plot bioware didn't consider so he would still die of his disease I just wouldn't be there when it happened...

or he'd just die with everyone else on the citadel when it was transfered.

Bioware actually did think of everything with that.

[Tietj]

If you start a new game, without importing, the situation is perfect for siding with the dalatrass, saving Mordin, and screwing over the Krogan. The dialogue even makes you feel good about it; I didn't feel guilty at all, Mordin survives, you get Krogan and Salarian support, and you have a fun conversation with Garrus after Thessia (or possibly just before) about it. No downside.

[bloodstalker1973]

Nobody wanted to allow a cure even with a Reaper invasion already happening. The odds of the other races allowing a genophage cure after the Reapers were dealt with are very low. The other races would have made sure it didn't happen, Salarians would have taken Mordin out most likely and confisctated the data once it was known there actually was a way to cure it.

I don;t think it was impatience. I just think Wrex was smart enough to know that the Reaper invasion was the only thing that would make people willing to give on the cure. Seems harsh, but reasonable to demand a cure now while he had a bargaining chip imo.

[aslivewire]

No one would have done a thing to help the Krogan post-war, though. Mordin wouldn't have been able to accomplish it on his own, which is why he INFORMED WREX TO BEGIN WITH. It had to be then, because otherwise the Turians wouldn't have been desperate enough to say okay, do what you have to. You would have had Salarian and Turian militaries (and probably Asari, and pockets of humans) standing between you and the cure.

That's not to mention that Eve's life was at stake. If you hadn't interferred then, Cerberus would have been able to get in and kill her. If you hadn't done the cure then, there were too many variables- even if the Krogan helped you during the war, they still stood to die off after wards.

[M12311]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Calibrations Expert wrote...

Everyone died for nothing...

Except Shepard, I guess.

Shepard died for the most nothing of all.

Yes, Shepard died with the "Yo dawg...." agrument as his last thought. That is cruel and unusual.

[Vikali]

Not every single Krogan went to the fight. Plenty were still back on Tuchanka. And they will press on in the wake of their brethren's sacrifice.