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Can you REALLY get 4000+ EMS points without Multiplayer?


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ThomasakaDes_

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It`s cool that the mp can affect the sp, but it should still be possible to see Shepard gasp for air in the "good" ending by just playing sp.
Mass Effect is a single player game!

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so this is talking about the bottom # right?
and the top # is the % plus the bottom...
and that is the one nobody can get over 5000?

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ElementL09

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7,000+ EMS, but at 50% readiness in the game, I believe you can't get over 4,000.

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Lalalandia

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The forumla is
Effective Military Strength (EMS, the bottomnumber) = Total Military Strength (TMS, top number) x War Readiness (WR, 50% or 0.5 if you play no multiplayer).

Multiple playthroughs and readings of 'coalesced.ini' (the file that contains the War Asset values) prove that you cannot get an EMS of > 4000 (that gets you Deep Breath if Anderson lives) let alone > 5000 (Deep Breath with a dead Anderson). There's no debate really about that, there is no 'magic path' through the game. If you have a WR of 50% you cannot get Deep Breath.

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RUDAL

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yes it's easy to pass the 4k with just doing main quests and missions you can even skip the fetch quests

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weird because all my #s were over 5000....
I did play mp but my top # was really high...and the bottom was at @5140 i think....
I know I did everylittle thing except 2 fetch quest before the citadel attack...
Man I wish I knew what I did different so I could help...

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ThomasakaDes_

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RUDAL wrote...

yes it's easy to pass the 4k with just doing main quests and missions you can even skip the fetch quests


New game characther or import from ME and ME2?
I`ve imported my characther from ME2, and I did most side missions, scanned all planets and such and I still didn`t get over 4k EMS(third line, the one over the big green bar).
So unless you imported from ME - ME2 - ME3, then it`s not possible to get over 4k on the third line from just doing the main missions.

Saint Op wrote...

weird because all my #s were over 5000....
I did play mp but my top # was really high...and the bottom was at @5140 i think....
I know I did everylittle thing except 2 fetch quest before the citadel attack...
Man I wish I knew what I did different so I could help...

 

You played mp :P
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http://masseffect.wi.../wiki/War_Asset 
All war assets, do some math if anyone wants.
Remember that if you have 6000 TMS(first line) and 50% readiness, it means your EMS is half of the TMS.

Modifié par ThomasakaDes_, 24 mars 2012 - 07:20 .


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so MP changes the bottom # too is what im asking?

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wait rereading the other post & the TMS # is what im asking about does ?\\ change that or just the ems #

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No it sis not possible their are only 3600 (7200 TMS X 50% readiness) worth of EMS in SP - you need 4000 to get "best" ending

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ThomasakaDes_ wrote...

RUDAL wrote...

yes it's easy to pass the 4k with just doing main quests and missions you can even skip the fetch quests


New game characther or import from ME and ME2?
I`ve imported my characther from ME2, and I did most side missions, scanned all planets and such and I still didn`t get over 4k EMS(third line, the one over the big green bar).
So unless you imported from ME - ME2 - ME3, then it`s not possible to get over 4k on the third line from just doing the main missions.


RUDAL's simply wrong unless he's playing MP (or Infitrator??). There aren't enough WA points in the game to do it, whether you import or not.

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My highest was 3500 or so. Might be a bit more possible but 4k is IMPOSSIBLE, period.

Unless you count that strange App thing that can increase EMS, I guess one might split hairs and say that its not Multiplayer.

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Lalalandia

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Multiplayer only affects the EMS score. Multiplayer raises your War Readiness which is multiplied by your TMS (top score) to get your EMS (lower score, decides what ending you get)

No MP = No Deep Breath

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Lalalandia wrote...

Multiplayer only affects the EMS score. Multiplayer raises your War Readiness which is multiplied by your TMS (top score) to get your EMS (lower score, decides what ending you get)

No MP = No Deep Breath


exactly

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People are STILL getting Total Military Strength and Effective Military Strength confused.

Total Military Strength = War Assets collected (7490 total possible.)
Effective Military Strength = War Assets * Galactic Readiness (Base 50%, playing Multiplayer or iPad app can raise it to 100%)

Max EMS without Multiplayer or iPad app = 7490 * .5 = 3745.

It is NOT possible to get 4000 _EMS_, which is the minimum needed for the 'breath' scene, without playing Multiplayer or the iPad app.

Anyone claiming otherwise is looking at the wrong number.

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 I was ~7000 TMS/EMS (100% readiness).  That's with importing and doing all side quests.   All these different numbers make me wonder if the in-game asset calculator is glitched.

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AkiKishi

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I was 400 short (give or take).

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You can gain over 4000 ems without mp only on new game+,

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dado500 wrote...

You can gain over 4000 ems without mp only on new game+,


Never got that far. My NG+ bugged out on the first visit to the citadel and I returned the game.

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blue water wrote...

 I was ~7000 TMS/EMS (100% readiness).  That's with importing and doing all side quests.   All these different numbers make me wonder if the in-game asset calculator is glitched.


I have seen screenshots showing impossible values -- more WA points for the same asset than I got for that asset.

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7000+ with 98% MP :D If that helps.

It's nigh impossible to get effective numbers with Datapad. Not sure about Infilitration.

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dado500 wrote...

You can gain over 4000 ems without mp only on new game+,


Really? What's the NG+ bonus?

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AlanC9 wrote...

blue water wrote...

 I was ~7000 TMS/EMS (100% readiness).  That's with importing and doing all side quests.   All these different numbers make me wonder if the in-game asset calculator is glitched.


I have seen screenshots showing impossible values -- more WA points for the same asset than I got for that asset.


Ok. Now I'm  really ticked.

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bluewolv1970 wrote...

No it sis not possible their are only 3600 (7200 TMS X 50% readiness) worth of EMS in SP - you need 4000 to get "best" ending


In my first playthrough I had 3600+ and I had missed some side missions, so it`s possible to get some more than 3600.
But 4k, that seems too impossible without mp, I only had like 1-2 side missions I had missed.

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Yes you can...

...all you need is Image IPB