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Can you REALLY get 4000+ EMS points without Multiplayer?


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I really don't understand the above post, I confess

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Tietj wrote...

I really don't understand the above post, I confess


The reason there won't be Player vs Player in Multiplayer is because the DEVs have said that would go against the Mass Effect Canon.  As in the Multiplayer is part of the story.

Therefore, read my post again, I added details.

And a Synergy Ending playthrough would always be the middle option on the left and right of the dialogue wheel.

And if you are forced only into a top-right/bottom-right conversation closer, you decide if that Nuetral Shepard has more of a Friendly or more of a Negative attitude and stick with that top-right/bottom-right choice always.

You basically can make 4 Cut and Mold Shepards Male/Female.

100% Paragon always.
100% Renagade always.
Nuetral(middle left/right option) always.
A) Top-Right Friendly
B) Bottom-Right Unfriendly

Yep.

Modifié par J4mes, 25 mars 2012 - 04:28 .


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Oh. Um. Ok. But the point of this thread is to ask whether or not it's possible to achieve over 4000 EMS points (or 8000 TMS) in single player alone. Galactic readiness is affected by multiplayer. So the answer, then, is no.

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I guess it depends how you look at it. I just hope for my full Renegade Shep I won't have to wait a long time for Galactic Readiness to go down for a long time(since the MP is quite nice).

But as I said, the way the Developers seem to make it, the Multiplayer is part of the Story.  So by not playing it, is like not having the Prothean DLC.

Yeah, nice gameplay/business model Bioware/EA.

Modifié par J4mes, 25 mars 2012 - 04:31 .


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I got 7109 on my 2nd playthrough. Haven't touched multiplayer at all.

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I got 7109 on my 2nd playthrough. Haven't touched multiplayer at all.

That's not your EMS amount.

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jreezy wrote...

themark443 wrote...

I got 7109 on my 2nd playthrough. Haven't touched multiplayer at all.

That's not your EMS amount.


oops. that was my total military strength. forgot what my ems number was. my bad.

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themark443 wrote...

I got 7109 on my 2nd playthrough. Haven't touched multiplayer at all.

That's not your EMS amount.


oops. that was my total military strength. forgot what my ems number was. my bad.

It's probably around 3600 with 7100 TMS at 50% readiness.

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J4mes wrote...

Tietj wrote...

I really don't understand the above post, I confess


The reason there won't be Player vs Player in Multiplayer is because the DEVs have said that would go against the Mass Effect Canon.  As in the Multiplayer is part of the story.

Therefore, read my post again, I added details.

And a Synergy Ending playthrough would always be the middle option on the left and right of the dialogue wheel.

And if you are forced only into a top-right/bottom-right conversation closer, you decide if that Nuetral Shepard has more of a Friendly or more of a Negative attitude and stick with that top-right/bottom-right choice always.

You basically can make 4 Cut and Mold Shepards Male/Female.

100% Paragon always.
100% Renagade always.
Nuetral(middle left/right option) always.
A) Top-Right Friendly
B) Bottom-Right Unfriendly

Yep.


 
Where did a dev say that there would be no player vs. player because it goes against Mass Effect canon? I don't believe they said such a thing considering throughout the entire marketing scheme they have specifically stated that multiplayer has nothing to do with single-player at all. That was just an option way to gain readiness. So please provide a link.


A true renegade or a true paragon starts off at 50% readiness, regardless. It doesn't change due to reputation. It also does not go below 50%. You could literally kill everyone you could possible kill whilst in single-player and your readiness would still remain the same. Only MP or the ios game changes your readiness. If you raise it through MP, it will decrease slowly over time, but will only decrease to 50%.


The synthesis ending has nothing to do with having a neutral Shepard. The endings really aren't Paragon/Renegade/Neutral. Just Bad/Really bad/Wtf.  You have to have 4,000 EMS to obtain Deep breath—that is if you pass the persuasion checks with TIM, 5,000 otherwise. You cannot obtain 4,000 with a readiness of 50%, which means you cannot obtain it without MP or ios to raise it. You cannot achieve Deep Breath without MP or ios.

Modifié par KBomb, 25 mars 2012 - 04:49 .


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I think this would make a fun drinking game. Take a shot whenever someone posts their >4000 TMS score and implies that they're just THAT MUCH BETTER a player than everyone who is complaining.

Not directed at you, themark443, you admitted your error quickly and gracefully. And it's so badly explained in the game that it's completely understandable that someone might make that mistake.

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Tietj wrote...

I think this would make a fun drinking game. Take a shot whenever someone posts their >4000 TMS score and implies that they're just THAT MUCH BETTER a player than everyone who is complaining.

Not directed at you, themark443, you admitted your error quickly and gracefully. And it's so badly explained in the game that it's completely understandable that someone might make that mistake.



The alcohol poisoning incidents would be through the roof.

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You people are all weak. I got 32,000 EMS with minor MP after the 56% cut. I thought that with that much EMS the entire Milky Way galaxy would kick the living shiite out of the Reapers... Boy was I wrong. :(

And I only did it to get the Synthesis ending which I felt was the better of the other two endings. When I did finish the game though, I was left disappointed. You'd think that with so much [modded] effective military strength, would mean that every life from in the galaxy banded together against the Reaper, ending the game with the Reaper's death. But no!

Modifié par Necromonger Lordmarshal, 25 mars 2012 - 04:53 .


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On my 2nd playthrough I had right around 4200 EMS, so yes it is possible. On principle, I object to multiplayer (that requires xbox live) being effectively required, so I never touch it. It was a full paragon playthrough.

On my first run, I had around 3600. I'm not sure where i I picked up the rest, except to say I was more attentive, and read posts in these threads about where to pick up assets you wouldn't think of.

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Necromonger Lordmarshal wrote...

You people are all weak. I got 32,000 EMS with minor MP after the 56% cut.

Anybody taking a shot of alcohol because of this?

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Captain Arty wrote...

On my 2nd playthrough I had right around 4200 EMS, so yes it is possible. On principle, I object to multiplayer (that requires xbox live) being effectively required, so I never touch it. It was a full paragon playthrough.

On my first run, I had around 3600. I'm not sure where i I picked up the rest, except to say I was more attentive, and read posts in these threads about where to pick up assets you wouldn't think of.


Screenshot please. Along with your asset numbers so that we can tell if they've been tampered with. I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just don't believe you.

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Necromonger Lordmarshal wrote...

You people are all weak. I got 32,000 EMS with minor MP after the 56% cut.

Anybody taking a shot of alcohol because of this?


 
I was hoping he was being jocular. I really hope he was being jocular.

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@Captain Arty I don't disbelieve you, but people have looked at the game files and there are not enough assets in the game. There are rare cases when people have somehow doubled certain assets, Krogan, Geth, and Quarians being the most common. This is thought to be a (helpful) bug.

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KBomb wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Necromonger Lordmarshal wrote...

You people are all weak. I got 32,000 EMS with minor MP after the 56% cut.

Anybody taking a shot of alcohol because of this?


 
I was hoping he was being jocular. I really hope he was being jocular.


LOL

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KBomb wrote...


You have to have 4,000 EMS to obtain Deep breath—that is if you pass the persuasion checks with TIM, 5,000 otherwise. You cannot obtain 4,000 with a readiness of 50%, which means you cannot obtain it without MP or ios to raise it. You cannot achieve Deep Breath without MP or ios.


I got the breath without touching MP or iOS. I also got the Master and Commander achievment without them, which is only supposed to happen with a readiness greater than 50%. I looked through my list of assets after getting it and nothing in particular jumped out at me, except that the Alliance engineering corps asset seemed much larger than before, around 500. I think on my first try it was 290--still not enough to make a difference.

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jreezy wrote...

Necromonger Lordmarshal wrote...

You people are all weak. I got 32,000 EMS with minor MP after the 56% cut.

Anybody taking a shot of alcohol because of this?


He probably rallied the fleets from Andromeda and Triangulum galaxies.

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KBomb wrote...

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On my 2nd playthrough I had right around 4200 EMS, so yes it is possible. On principle, I object to multiplayer (that requires xbox live) being effectively required, so I never touch it. It was a full paragon playthrough.

On my first run, I had around 3600. I'm not sure where i I picked up the rest, except to say I was more attentive, and read posts in these threads about where to pick up assets you wouldn't think of.


Screenshot please. Along with your asset numbers so that we can tell if they've been tampered with. I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just don't believe you.


I'm on xbox, so no screenshots. The only things I notice is that I have 520 for the alliance engineering corps, and 100 for the mineral bonus from ME1(2?) instead of the 25 I had on my other character.

The 4200 came on my Insanity run, and there were a few missions where I died just as I was getting assets, like Eden Prime. Maybe those counted twice? I don't know.

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Captain Arty wrote...


I got the breath without touching MP or iOS. I also got the Master and Commander achievment without them, which is only supposed to happen with a readiness greater than 50%. I looked through my list of assets after getting it and nothing in particular jumped out at me, except that the Alliance engineering corps asset seemed much larger than before, around 500. I think on my first try it was 290--still not enough to make a difference.


 
Are you on PC? If so, did you download any modified c-bin? That has been an issue of bugging the assets causing more than is possible. If you're on XBL, please provide a screenshot. The numbers have been calculated and it's impossible to obtain 4k through SP alone. Did you use the Infiltrator app? Sorry, without implementing gibbed, c-bin tampering/glitch or MP/ios, it's impossible.

 
Edit: Just saw your XB post. Use a camera, that is what most have been doing.

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On my 2nd playthrough I had right around 4200 EMS, so yes it is possible. On principle, I object to multiplayer (that requires xbox live) being effectively required, so I never touch it. It was a full paragon playthrough.

On my first run, I had around 3600. I'm not sure where i I picked up the rest, except to say I was more attentive, and read posts in these threads about where to pick up assets you wouldn't think of.


Screenshot please. Along with your asset numbers so that we can tell if they've been tampered with. I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just don't believe you.

I lol'd

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Two complete playthroughs, one from a ME1 to ME2 to ME3 save, the other was a new game plus and both time around 7200 Total mil strength, so as far as I know, 4000 can't be achieved without multi

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Tietj wrote...

@Captain Arty I don't disbelieve you, but people have looked at the game files and there are not enough assets in the game. There are rare cases when people have somehow doubled certain assets, Krogan, Geth, and Quarians being the most common. This is thought to be a (helpful) bug.


I've cracked open those game files in question. I am skeptical that anyone has yet accurately added up all the possible points from those. The files are a mess, at least after being decompressed. There are also a number of assets placeholders that are not used, are inaccessible, or will be activated by later DLC.

In any case, I think the only thing to do is to go through the in-game assets line-by-line for a 100% playthrough and compare, which I'm not willing to do. It's not worth it.