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Can you REALLY get 4000+ EMS points without Multiplayer?


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People, do not confused Total Millitary Strength with EMS.

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SHilton75 wrote...

Not sure why so many people are opposed to multiplayer.


Mostly because (1) we don't have broadband access for our game console and/or (2) we don't want to pay for Xbox Live Gold so we can be allowed to play online.

Making a single-player component dependant on multiplayer is just foul business.

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MDT1 wrote...

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 I was ~7000 TMS/EMS (100% readiness).  That's with importing and doing all side quests.   All these different numbers make me wonder if the in-game asset calculator is glitched.


More likely that the minds of people who can't tell the difference between TMS and EMS are glitched.

Have done 5 play throughs now ME/ME2 import, NG+ with ME3 import, NG++ ME3 import on insanity and two new build characters. The highest EMS score I've achieved was 3,600.

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SCORE 4,000 EMS ON A PURE SP GAME.


This.

As people might have pointed out, the problem seems to be that retake omega was originally supposed to be in game but was cut oout for whatever reason. I expect it to be released as DLC later. If it's a payed DLC we will finally know how much Biowars "artistic integrity" is worth..


The generally accepted concensus is that there are between 300-400 missing EMS points in the game. It's hard to see 'Retake Omega' giving that many. 'From Ashes' only gave 100 TMS (50 EMS @ 50% readiness), at that rate it may take three pieces of additional DLC (including RO) to get that many EMS points.

Scores around 3,600 EMS are only achievable if you bought all the DLC for ME and ME2, It would be entirely consistent with BW's policy over the previous two games if you could only get over 4,000 EMS by buying all the DLC for ME3. Get your wallets out folks, if you want the 'Shepherd breathes' easter egg as an in-game SP option (currently only available to multiplayer and Infiltrator fans) then you'll pay through the nose in DLC for it.

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Olueq wrote...

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i got more than 5000 with a ME1+ME2 save, so yes.

Im sure you did.


So did I...

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Raptr569 wrote...

Olueq wrote...

DaewaNya wrote...

i got more than 5000 with a ME1+ME2 save, so yes.

Im sure you did.


So did I...


TMS or EMS?

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I swear people are either trolling or plain stupid.

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Rogue Unit wrote...

I swear people are either trolling or plain stupid.


Yes, people really are that stupid. They've licked every window on the short bus and now it's time for their social interaction therapy on these forms.

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http://social.biowar...3/index/9665384

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Well, I've got got 6102 EMS, but that's with a 100% readiness, so... make that half with 50% and take 150 war assets that are promoted teams fom MP, and I'm left with less than 3000, so... It's very unlikely...

Modifié par Zubatman, 27 mars 2012 - 04:35 .


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No. You cannot. This is a lie by Bioware that the MP component is optional. It's a lie that they've yet to respond to or explain or apologize or....ANYTHING really...to.

But all indications are that it is completely impossible to get the 4000 EMS needed to get the "optimal" ending to the game in a single playthrough.

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merrick97 wrote...

I really wish people would quit LYING about this. It is impossible to get 4000 without multiplayer. It has been dissected and proven over and over again.

I got over 4000 before multiplayer and the reason I played it was to boost to 5000, so peace -drives off in pimp car-

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Well I'd recieved about 7500 total military strength in my stand alone campaign. It was a pretty bitter pilll to swallow that I'd have to sneak my xbox up to work to borrow their connection, to not only get my initial DLC, which wasn't such a big deal, but to play online just to clear the last hanging achievements off my list. Quietly downloading to my xbox in a corner as I program at work is almost encouraged, playing online multiplayer... much less so.

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Short Answer:

No.

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Yeah, I think it's BS that you can get 4000+ in single player. I've played through it three times now with the same character - done everything that I can find, and maxed out the Paragon choices (in all three games) and I still can't get past the 4000 mark, I'm always a couple hundred short.

Modifié par res27772, 27 mars 2012 - 07:18 .


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There's like a hundred people who are supposedly terrible at multiplayer in this thread alone. Make a friend on the forum. Pair up with someone equally as terrible.

Or i dunno.... Play it solo.

You hear that? They gave you multiplayer that you can play ALONE, and you're still b:&@!ing. Your little universe can continue to revolve around you, without being tainted by the presence of another human being.

Nobody finds it ironic that you're beating every race over the head with the idea that they can't do it alone, while you yourselves are completely inflexible and unwilling to work with anybody else?

Because of what, "immersion?" As if stopping in the middle of a reaper invasion to go pick up some elcor laundry 3 systems away is more "immersive" than fighting husks & banshees.

Its CO-OPERATIVE horde mode. And they gave you the option of playing it alone; not having to cooperate. No different than the N7 horde missions. No different than defending your position while you wait for the shuttle/backup support. Its literally the singleplayer levels. And you can play it single-player. There is no reasonable argument unless you've got a bandwidth cap of 0.

This is a 3rd person action/rpg shooter. RPG + Shooter. Whining about having to shoot things to get points for GR is like b"@&ing about having to interact & explore to get war assets for TMS.

And 16 pages of debate for what? For a half a second teaser.

Are you afraid it'll affect your future imports? Because the council decision and the collector base made such a HUGE difference right? Whether you saved Ashley or Kaidan made an enormous impact, I'm sure. And the endings were so VASTLY different that you absolutely are forced to see all of them. (sarcasm, in case its not painfully obvious)

Play it singleplayer. Make a friend in this thread. Edit your ini if you're on pc. Watch it on youtube, then go outside. Its not that serious. I'm beginning to think people will find anything to cry about at this point.


Well,

Are you representative of who will be on my team should I decide to try multiplayer against my better judgement? Where is the part in your post that I can look to for reassurance that being poor at online gaming will not result in a stressful, pointless, degrading and frustrating experience? One that I will have to continue ad nauseum since ME MP is evidently like a cigarette, meaning there is no such thing as just once?

I can actually answer that myself, since I've been to the multiplayer threads on this forum and seen exactly the same disdain all over the place. You talk about people who prefer single player as if this game were multiplayer from the start. It wasn't. And nobody has to make a "convincing argument" about why they expect that when they were told the single player game was not being tied to multiplayer, they were being told the truth.

What possesses you to come on here and imply that others need to lie to you about their multiplayer skills or bandwidth connections? I'm horrible at multiplayer, which means I'm doing the rest of the players a favor by not participating. As intolerant as they will be of my mistakes, I will be twice as intolerant of being talked to by kids my daughter's age the way I've seen on those aforementioned threads. 

You claim that, but because I expect Bioware to do what they say they're going to do and because you think I should feel some sort of gratitude about being "allowed" to play a multiplayer game alone that was supposedly completely unnecessary, I need to have "acceptable" reasons for not wanting to spend any time dealing with a server full of raged out cut rate Zuckerbergs with lingering scores to settle against "the cool kids" and the women who always "laugh and shake their heads no"?  And I'm the one with the overdeveloped sense of importance?!

If I had been leaning in any way towards joining MP and wasting time confirming what I've known about online gaming since it started, it is all taken care of now. Ironically too, I'm just beside myself with gratitude. Thank 

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I think I ended my first ME1 playthrough with around 8000 TMS, but I missed alot and made some different choices in ME1 and 2 that would have helped in 3. Also depending on the choices you make in 3 can affect TMS....like allowing the asari commando to have a gun....

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Sajuro wrote...

merrick97 wrote...

I really wish people would quit LYING about this. It is impossible to get 4000 without multiplayer. It has been dissected and proven over and over again.

I got over 4000 before multiplayer and the reason I played it was to boost to 5000, so peace -drives off in pimp car-

Stop lying.

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titolium wrote...

http://social.biowar...3/index/9665384


I really hope you're not quoting that as truth.

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You cannot.Tried both as Paragon and Renegade...3800ish is the best you can aspire with all the possible N7's and Side Missions.The ending is ****ed anyway so there's no point to this...

Modifié par SwitchN7, 27 mars 2012 - 08:19 .


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According to my numbers (helped largely by the ME wiki)...IF YOU GET 100% OF ALL ASSETS, you can end up with 8083 War Assets (-50% for readiness). HOWEVER...This is the best case scenario for everyone involved, and is UNACHIEVABLE in game. For example, I gave the Quarian fleet assets of 830, and Geth 820...but if the Quarians acheive 830, Geth would only be able to hit 520.

So, in short...no, it's not actually possible.

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I was wondering why even after I completed/found everything in my Paragon single player run I never got the "single breath scene".

I was under 4000.

So so much for you don't need to play mutliplayer eh?

Do they have any shame, or is it just say whatever it takes to sell a game?

I imagine for them it's the latter.

Absolute ****ty move on their part.

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No you dont. BW said it would be easy, another lie.

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Drake_1000 wrote...

No you dont. BW said it would be easy, another lie.


Well...it depends on what they meant by telling us that it's easy to achieve the best ending. Did they mean synthesis or breathe scene? Nevertheless it's quite annoying

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Sonashi wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

No you dont. BW said it would be easy, another lie.


Well...it depends on what they meant by telling us that it's easy to achieve the best ending. Did they mean synthesis or breathe scene? Nevertheless it's quite annoying


 
It's a lie either way. They stated we'd miss nothing by not playing multi-player. I don't see how they could say Synthesis was the best ending—no doubt they will so they can cover their bases. I don't see how they can say turning billions of people and aliens into organic robot hybrids against their will could be the best ending. That is a matter of opinion, I suppose. Regardless, anything to do with the endings, good or bad, should be tied to what you do in-game.


If I miss something in single-player because I made the wrong decision—then fine. I missed out on it because I made a mistake. I don't want to miss content because I didn't play multi-player. It's absolutely ridiculous.Image IPB

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BeefoTheBold wrote...

No. You cannot. This is a lie by Bioware that the MP component is optional. It's a lie that they've yet to respond to or explain or apologize or....ANYTHING really...to.

But all indications are that it is completely impossible to get the 4000 EMS needed to get the "optimal" ending to the game in a single playthrough.


My opinion? It's wasn't a lie. It was true when they announced it some months ago.

Then, the plan regarding the plot has changed and it has become a lie. Maybe some important quests like the Aria/Omega's one were unfinished and they choose to make a DLC out of it. Maybe EA has decided to move some finished content of the game in the DLC form, just to squeeze some more money out of us.

In the end, I'm pretty sure that adding each and every DLC to the main game, we will be able to reach and surpass  4000 EMS level. And that could prove my point above in many ways.

Having said that, I do not honestly see a big difference between the 3000+ ending(s) and the 4000+ ending(s)... so, in any cas it's not a big lie.