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[KBomb]

FedericoV wrote...

My opinion? It's wasn't a lie. It was true when they announced it some months ago.

Then, the plan regarding the plot has changed and it has become a lie. Maybe some important quests like the Aria/Omega's one were unfinished and they choose to make a DLC out of it. Maybe EA has decided to move some finished content of the game in the DLC form, just to squeeze some more money out of us.

In the end, I'm pretty sure that adding each and every DLC to the main game, we will be able to reach and surpass  4000 EMS level. And that could prove my point above in many ways.

Having said that, I do not honestly see a big difference between the 3000+ ending(s) and the 4000+ ending(s)... so, in any cas it's not a big lie.

 
You don't see a difference? lol Life and death is a pretty big difference.


Deep Breath should also not rely on DLC, considering not everyone can get DLC. You shouldn't have to pay for an ending, imo. I paid for it when I purchased the game in the first place.


If it was the case of “Oh, things change. Sorry.” Then they should do the right thing and make an announcement saying such. Or they should have patched it already. There is no excuse.

[FedericoV]

KBomb wrote...
You don't see a difference? lol Life and death is a pretty big difference.

You know what I mean: it's such a short scene that it would be stupid to force yourself in to MP just for it. I honestly cheated with my save to get that ending: in my playthrough Diane Allers was worth 1600 War Assets points . I'm just saying that the scene is so short and cheap that should not have been there in the first place.

Deep Breath should also not rely on DLC, considering not everyone can get DLC. You shouldn't have to pay for an ending, imo. I paid for it when I purchased the game in the first place.

But I agree on that! Maybe I wasn't clear: I absolutely hate the way Ea/Bioware are handling the business side of thing. It's not ethical, it's not customer friendly and most of all it's killing their reputation.

If it was the case of “Oh, things change. Sorry.” Then they should do the right thing and make an announcement saying such. Or they should have patched it already. There is no excuse.

You will never have that. They will never admit that they changed their plans for money. Admitting that I'm right on that issue and I could be wrong off course.

[bluewolv1970]

to answer OP question - NO

[Swordfishtrombone]

Those who claim they got over 4000 EMS - are you SURE you are talking about EMS, and not War assets?

Because it's easy to get 4000+ war assets, and getting 7000+ war asssets is also possible. But without MP, your EMS value is HALF your war assets - thus making it impossible to reach 4000 EMS.

As I understand it, not reaching this EMS value means that in one of the endings, you do not get some extra footage.

Thus the Bioware claim that you can get every ending without MP, isn't exactly an outright lie, but it is very, very missleading. What people who complain about this are complaining about is that there is ANY single player content in the end that is not accessible without playing MP.

As to why I don't want to play MP, three reasons: my internet connection is sometimes spotty, I am not INTERESTED in multiplayer, never have been, and most importantly, because there is coercion involved - Bioware is trying to make me play multiplayer by tieing in multiplayer gametime with elements in the single player campaign.

The last reason is why I will never play ME3 multiplayer, out of principle alone. I do not like being coerced, and do not want to promote such practice in game makers.

[bluewolv1970]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Those who claim they got over 4000 EMS - are you SURE you are talking about EMS, and not War assets?

Because it's easy to get 4000+ war assets, and getting 7000+ war asssets is also possible. But without MP, your EMS value is HALF your war assets - thus making it impossible to reach 4000 EMS.

As I understand it, not reaching this EMS value means that in one of the endings, you do not get some extra footage.

Thus the Bioware claim that you can get every ending without MP, isn't exactly an outright lie, but it is very, very missleading. What people who complain about this are complaining about is that there is ANY single player content in the end that is not accessible without playing MP.

As to why I don't want to play MP, three reasons: my internet connection is sometimes spotty, I am not INTERESTED in multiplayer, never have been, and most importantly, because there is coercion involved - Bioware is trying to make me play multiplayer by tieing in multiplayer gametime with elements in the single player campaign.

The last reason is why I will never play ME3 multiplayer, out of principle alone. I do not like being coerced, and do not want to promote such practice in game makers.

it actually is an outright lie, given that the scene in question is the only remotely positive thing about any of the endings...not by much but still...

[res27772]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

it actually is an outright lie, given that the scene in question is the only remotely positive thing about any of the endings...not by much but still...

Agreed, I remember someone from BioWare saying you could get 4000+ and all endings without playing multiplayer - yet all evidence so far shows you can't... as I've said, I'm always several hundred points short, no matter what I do in the game.  I think the people who they have got 4000+ in single player only are pulling a fast one personally, trying to get us to believe something that isn't true - so fess up people, you played multiplayer too, right!?!?  *stop that smirking*

As it stands, the only way to get 4000+ is either multiplayer, or from DLC... and both scenerios suck.

Modifié par res27772, 27 mars 2012 - 02:15 .

[wrc78]

EHondaMashButton wrote...

There's like a hundred people who are supposedly terrible at multiplayer in this thread alone. Make a friend on the forum. Pair up with someone equally as terrible.

Or i dunno.... Play it solo.

While that is not even the subject (being good or bad at MP, willing or not to do it), three words to this :
XBOX LIVE SILVER.

You cannot play MP even as a solo player, due I guess to the underlying of XBOX LIVE GOLD need for the real MP.

[Oooh shiny]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Those who claim they got over 4000 EMS - are you SURE you are talking about EMS, and not War assets?

Because it's easy to get 4000+ war assets, and getting 7000+ war asssets is also possible. But without MP, your EMS value is HALF your war assets - thus making it impossible to reach 4000 EMS.

As I understand it, not reaching this EMS value means that in one of the endings, you do not get some extra footage.

Thus the Bioware claim that you can get every ending without MP, isn't exactly an outright lie, but it is very, very missleading. What people who complain about this are complaining about is that there is ANY single player content in the end that is not accessible without playing MP.

As to why I don't want to play MP, three reasons: my internet connection is sometimes spotty, I am not INTERESTED in multiplayer, never have been, and most importantly, because there is coercion involved - Bioware is trying to make me play multiplayer by tieing in multiplayer gametime with elements in the single player campaign.

The last reason is why I will never play ME3 multiplayer, out of principle alone. I do not like being coerced, and do not want to promote such practice in game makers.

Perfect post^!

I've tried importing different saves and I've tried different experiments with conversations (tried turning Ash into a war asset) still didn't have enough for the "best" ending. Really resent the single player being wholly reliant on the MP for different endings. 

[wrc78]

res27772 wrote...

Agreed, I remember someone from BioWare saying you could get 4000+ and all endings without playing multiplayer - yet all evidence so far shows you can't...

In fact, it is still tauntingly displaying as a sticky, while not speaking of raw numbers, but  "there are MORE than the required amount that can be gathered in the single-player campaign" :
http://social.biowar...3/index/9665384

Although one can debate regarding "best" vs. "perfect"...

[Xarathox]

insomniac13 wrote...

I find that hard to believe.

I'm sitting with 7136 points. Really, you just need to do everything from all 3 games.

[PluralAces]

Who cares, I have to do insanity runs on all three games, I am just going to do the missions that are mandatory and skipping everything else....it doesnt matter the ending is basically the same no matter what you do!!

[bluewolv1970]

wrc78 wrote...

res27772 wrote...

Agreed, I remember someone from BioWare saying you could get 4000+ and all endings without playing multiplayer - yet all evidence so far shows you can't...

In fact, it is still tauntingly displaying as a sticky, while not speaking of raw numbers, but  "there are MORE than the required amount that can be gathered in the single-player campaign" :
http://social.biowar...3/index/9665384

Although one can debate regarding "best" vs. "perfect"...

agreed

[Trevarion]

Xarathox wrote...

insomniac13 wrote...

I find that hard to believe.

I'm sitting with 7136 points. Really, you just need to do everything from all 3 games.

Holy **** you are stupid.  You have 7136 TMS not EMS.

[james1976]

devSin wrote...

There are around 7,500 total assets attainable in the game.

It is not possible to achieve 4,000 or more EMS with the default 50% readiness.

You can cheat your saved game to increase assets; otherwise, you need to play multiplayer or use the iOS apps to increase your readiness.

Sadly, this is the truth.  And a major design flaw for a game series that has been based the single player narrative.  There are people who do not own an iOS device and do not care about multiplayer.  They only want that single player experience they love and not having access to all the endings from single player alone is dreadful.

I am one such person.

[Xarathox]

Trevarion wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

insomniac13 wrote...

I find that hard to believe.

I'm sitting with 7136 points. Really, you just need to do everything from all 3 games.

Holy **** you are stupid.  You have 7136 TMS not EMS.

**** you too.

[RogueState]

With an ME1 and ME2 import I managed 5100 EMS on my first playthrough with a Galatic Readiness of 50% So yeah, really was easy to get more than 4000! I managed to get that up to 6980 after a bit of MP!

I'm getting a bit bewildered by people who say they can't get more than 4000 EMS, are you starting a brand new game in ME3 or are you importing? If your importing I can only assume you aren't doing any side quests or exploring or had a massivly failed SM!

Modifié par Lordy12, 27 mars 2012 - 03:09 .

[Forsythia]

Don't lie, you cannot get above 4000 EMS in singleplayer, importing from ME1 or not.

[Candidate 88766]

Lordy12 wrote...

With an ME1 and ME2 import I managed 5100 EMS on my first playthrough with a Galatic Readiness of 50% So yeah, really was easy to get more than 4000! I managed to get that up to 6980 after a bit of MP!

I'm getting a bit bewildered by people who say they can't get more than 4000 EMS, are you starting a brand new game in ME3 or are you importing? If your importing I can only assume you aren't doing any side quests or exploring or had a massivly failed SM!

There aren't over 10,000 war assets in the game. There are about 7500 as far as I'm aware, not including any promoted MP characters.

[TheRealJayDee]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

As to why I don't want to play MP, three reasons: my internet connection is sometimes spotty, I am not INTERESTED in multiplayer, never have been, and most importantly, because there is coercion involved - Bioware is trying to make me play multiplayer by tieing in multiplayer gametime with elements in the single player campaign.

The last reason is why I will never play ME3 multiplayer, out of principle alone. I do not like being coerced, and do not want to promote such practice in game makers.

This!

[Aargh12]

Lordy12 wrote...

With an ME1 and ME2 import I managed 5100 EMS on my first playthrough with a Galatic Readiness of 50% So yeah, really was easy to get more than 4000! I managed to get that up to 6980 after a bit of MP!

I'm getting a bit bewildered by people who say they can't get more than 4000 EMS, are you starting a brand new game in ME3 or are you importing? If your importing I can only assume you aren't doing any side quests or exploring or had a massivly failed SM!

You can't reach normally over 4000EMS without playing MP, cause total number of War Assets ingame is around 7500-7600 points. So either you are lying, or you played with the editor, you played MP before or you had a bug.

[Sebbe1337o]

I did absolutely everything (had one or two choices "wrong" from ME1 and 2) and only got 3800 with 50% GR.

I find it hard to believe that some got 5k without multiplayer, like some has said in this thread. 4k I can believe. You get 100 points if you didn't kill the rachni queen in ME1 and maybe some other small stuff from another choice I did wrong in ME1 or 2. But still not close to 5k.

[Art3m]

I achieved 4900 EMS without multiplayer and I'm still on Rannoch, so yep, it's possible. Imported save and depleting systems of assets, all side missions. Well, the devs statement is true)
PS 5854 after Rannoch.
Here's the proof

Modifié par Art3mShepard, 27 mars 2012 - 03:45 .

[AcacianLeaves]

This is an outright lie. Okay, it may technically BE possible - but I played through ME1, ME2 and ME3 doing every side quest and completing every DLC and I only got to around 3900.

You absolutely have to do at least a few MP maps in order to get over 4000, and DEFINITELY to get over 5000.

[RogueState]

Aargh12 wrote...

Lordy12 wrote...

With an ME1 and ME2 import I managed 5100 EMS on my first playthrough with a Galatic Readiness of 50% So yeah, really was easy to get more than 4000! I managed to get that up to 6980 after a bit of MP!

I'm getting a bit bewildered by people who say they can't get more than 4000 EMS, are you starting a brand new game in ME3 or are you importing? If your importing I can only assume you aren't doing any side quests or exploring or had a massivly failed SM!

You can't reach normally over 4000EMS without playing MP, cause total number of War Assets ingame is around 7500-7600 points. So either you are lying, or you played with the editor, you played MP before or you had a bug.

Yeah, I'm not lying! I really don't see why I would and I resent the implication quite frankly!

That's what I got, I'm fairly certain I did most of the sidequests and I have played a fair bit of MP now but I hadn't at the time! If that was some kind of bug then my apologies but that is what i got!

[Sebbe1337o]

Lordy12 wrote...

Aargh12 wrote...

Lordy12 wrote...

With an ME1 and ME2 import I managed 5100 EMS on my first playthrough with a Galatic Readiness of 50% So yeah, really was easy to get more than 4000! I managed to get that up to 6980 after a bit of MP!

I'm getting a bit bewildered by people who say they can't get more than 4000 EMS, are you starting a brand new game in ME3 or are you importing? If your importing I can only assume you aren't doing any side quests or exploring or had a massivly failed SM!

You can't reach normally over 4000EMS without playing MP, cause total number of War Assets ingame is around 7500-7600 points. So either you are lying, or you played with the editor, you played MP before or you had a bug.

Yeah, I'm not lying! I really don't see why I would and I resent the implication quite frankly!

That's what I got, I'm fairly certain I did most of the sidequests and I have played a fair bit of MP now but I hadn't at the time! If that was some kind of bug then my apologies but that is what i got!

Either you're lying, or there's a bug in the game that some get a lot more EMS than others (and I hope you read it correctly, EFFECTIVE military strength, not TOTAL military strength). I don't know you and I really don't want to call anyone a liar, it's an insult. One of the worst one can get. But something is very strange that some are very sure they get 4-5k+ EMS without MP and some get 3,8-3,9k EMS... :S


Anyhow, thanks to Gibbed's savegame editor, I now have 26k EMS