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[OdanUrr]

Sharn01 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

Its possible to get over 4000 if you import a save from both ME and ME2, and made all the right, right not necessarily being paragon but mostly paragon with some renegade decisions in those two games.

I have calculated every decision you need to make in all three games to maximize war assets and you're still short of 8,000 by some 400+ points.

I have the day 1 dlc, without it you may not be able to make it, if that is the case then I retract my statement.

Eden Prime Support amounts to 100 war assets, not nearly enough.

[AkiKishi]

OdanUrr wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

Its possible to get over 4000 if you import a save from both ME and ME2, and made all the right, right not necessarily being paragon but mostly paragon with some renegade decisions in those two games.

I have calculated every decision you need to make in all three games to maximize war assets and you're still short of 8,000 by some 400+ points.

I was short around 400 but I had no numbers from the Salarians, less than 200 as I recall. Not sure if that was a bug or consequence of choosing the Krogan. But that's all the Salarian sent me after I saved his ass from Kai Leng.

[philippe willaume]

DukeOfNukes wrote...

Here's a brief breakdown of my numbers:

TOTAL ALIEN ASSETS 993 (Assuming you can get all the + CDF and none of the -)
TOTAL ALLIANCE ASSETS 1796 (-100 if Council Saved)
TOTAL ASARI ASSETS 668 (-70 if council killed)
TOTAL CRUCIBLE ASSETS 815
TOTAL EX-CERBERUS ASSETS 260
TOTAL GETH ASSETS 820 (-300 if Heretics destroyed)
TOTAL KROGAN ASSETS 900 (if Wrex Survives, Rachni Queen killed, Genophage cured)
TOTAL QUARIAN ASSETS 830 (-305 if Heretics SAVED)
TOTAL SALARIAN ASSETS 363 (-63 if council saved, -175 if Genophage cured)
TOTAL TURIAN ASSETS 638
TOTAL AVAILABLE ASSETS 8083

However, a lot of these scores are mutually exclusive. The Quarians or the Geth instantly lose 300 points. If the council is saved, you get to keep the ~130 points from the Salarians and Asari, but lose 100 from the Alliance. etc. i haven't bothered to do the individual math for the "optimal playthrough", but it looks to be around 7500 TMS

thanks

[Artemis_Entrari]

I can't believe this thread has gotten to 20 pages without a single Dev response to confirm or deny the answer to the title's question.

Is it really that much of a trade secret to either answer "yes, you can" or "no, it turns out due to a glitch -- which we're working on -- you currently can't"?

[res27772]

Sharn01 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

Its possible to get over 4000 if you import a save from both ME and ME2, and made all the right, right not necessarily being paragon but mostly paragon with some renegade decisions in those two games.

I have calculated every decision you need to make in all three games to maximize war assets and you're still short of 8,000 by some 400+ points.

I have the day 1 dlc, without it you may not be able to make it, if that is the case then I retract my statement.

Is that the mission where you get the Prothean?  If so, I have that, and still didn't get to the 4000 mark.

[res27772]

Artemis_Entrari wrote...

I can't believe this thread has gotten to 20 pages without a single Dev response to confirm or deny the answer to the title's question.

Oh, it's completely believable considering how many other things went ignored for just as long.

Modifié par res27772, 27 mars 2012 - 06:17 .

[Sharn01]

OdanUrr wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

Its possible to get over 4000 if you import a save from both ME and ME2, and made all the right, right not necessarily being paragon but mostly paragon with some renegade decisions in those two games.

I have calculated every decision you need to make in all three games to maximize war assets and you're still short of 8,000 by some 400+ points.

I have the day 1 dlc, without it you may not be able to make it, if that is the case then I retract my statement.

Eden Prime Support amounts to 100 war assets, not nearly enough.

I recall being slightly over 8000 war assets, I could check I suppose but I have sworn the game off after the ending.  Did you get all the writing, relics and mineral quests finished in ME, those give points as well?

[Getorex]

Artemis_Entrari wrote...

I can't believe this thread has gotten to 20 pages without a single Dev response to confirm or deny the answer to the title's question.

Is it really that much of a trade secret to either answer "yes, you can" or "no, it turns out due to a glitch -- which we're working on -- you currently can't"?

I'm a dev!  Right here!

Buy more DLC!  Yeah, that will fix it.  A couple DLC will allow you to get your score up.  You will need ALL the future DLC to get the score maxed out without MP.

Buy more DLC!

(and don't forget to drink more Ovaltine)

[AllThatJazz]

No, you can't get 4000 without either MP or the app. I've topped out at just over 3600 just before the Cerberus base. Full import, made all of the right decisions throughout the trilogy. A couple of  things in ME3 that lost me some EMS but nothing major. I also had 'From Ashes'. I also got the full 100 EMS from the ME2 resources.


I'm pretty sure that Jarrett wasn't being intentionally misleading, but Bio and fans have differing opinions as to what constitutes the best ending. I think they consider the 'best' ending to be synthesis, which does not require 4000 EMS to unlock. Many fans (myself included) think that 'deep breath' is the best, which does require at least 4000 EMS and therefore MP or app.

I'm annoyed about this issue. I play on XBox, and do NOT intend to pay for a gold sub every time I play ME3, just to unlock an ending I've already paid for. <_<

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 27 mars 2012 - 06:38 .

[Getorex]

AllThatJazz wrote...

No, you can't get 4000 without either MP or the app. I've topped out at just over 3600 just before the Cerberus base. Full import, made all of the right decisions throughout the trilogy. A couple of  things in ME3 that lost me some EMS but nothing major. I also had 'From Ashes'. I also got the full 100 EMS from the ME2 resources.


I'm pretty sure that Jarrett wasn't being intentionally misleading, but Bio and fans have differing opinions as to what constitutes the best ending. I think they consider the 'best' ending to be synthesis, which does not require 4000 EMS to unlock. Many fans (myself included) think that 'deep breath' is the best, which does require at least 4000 EMS and therefore MP or app.

I'm annoyed about this issue. I play on XBox, and do NOT intend to pay for a gold sub every time I play ME3, just to unlock an ending I've already paid for. <_<

More Full Retard from Bioware then.  See, the "best" ending should be the one most difficult to achieve.  Since "the gasp of breath" is most difficult to achieve, it is the best ending (also by virtue of the fact that Shep is still alive-ish).

[OdanUrr]

Sharn01 wrote...

I recall being slightly over 8000 war assets, I could check I suppose but I have sworn the game off after the ending.  Did you get all the writing, relics and mineral quests finished in ME, those give points as well?

This is a very basic list I compiled a while back:

http://www.mediafire...w7sqch5p88hdxdk 

I think it covers just about everything.

Femlob's compiled a more detailed list here:

http://www.femlob.co...ct-3/checklist/

[DukeOfNukes]

What's interesting is that I'm not finding any kinda of War Asset numbers in the Strategy guide. The ME3 Strategy guide is thicker than the strategy guides for the first two games combined...and yet they completely leave out any numbers? They mention at least most of the assets, but fail to really call much attention to it.

Not really sure if this is just a poor job on Prima's part, or if someone made a concious decision to not give you a list. Normally I'd blame Prima...though at this point, I wouldn't put it past BioWare to not want to officially release numbers.

Modifié par DukeOfNukes, 27 mars 2012 - 07:01 .

[IchibanMitsuru]

I'm just glad I imported my ME1->ME2 saves, It made leveling and EMS much easier on me.

It really made the game feel like a direct continuation of ME2.

Also Datapad and Infiltraitor have helped keep my EMS stable/high, astronomical when I ground out some Multiplayer.

[Oldbones2]

Artemis_Entrari wrote...

I can't believe this thread has gotten to 20 pages without a single Dev response to confirm or deny the answer to the title's question.

Is it really that much of a trade secret to either answer "yes, you can" or "no, it turns out due to a glitch -- which we're working on -- you currently can't"?

Would you post here?  In a place where we can reply and against a group of people who can prove you wrong using your own product?

[Art3m]

OdanUrr wrote...

res27772 wrote...

Art3mShepard wrote...

I achieved 4900 EMS without multiplayer and I'm still on Rannoch, so yep, it's possible. Imported save and depleting systems of assets, all side missions. Well, the devs statement is true)
PS 5854 after Rannoch.
Here's the proof

So is that photoshopped or hacked? :innocent:

Hacked most likely. Probably downloaded a Coalesced that doubles the values of war assets.

Well, I obviously cannot proof this is not hacked in any way, but i give you my word it's plausible

[Femlob]

Definately hacked and/or shopped.

Maximum Alien Value: 1,000
Maximum Alliance Value: 1,916
Maximum Asari Value: 708
Maximum Crucible Value: 870
Maximum Ex-Cerberus Value: 260
Maximum Krogan Value: 925

http://www.femlob.co.../me3-values.txt

Fail troll is fail.

Modifié par Femlob, 27 mars 2012 - 08:01 .

[AlanC9]

Getorex wrote...
More Full Retard from Bioware then.  See, the "best" ending should be the one most difficult to achieve.  Since "the gasp of breath" is most difficult to achieve, it is the best ending (also by virtue of the fact that Shep is still alive-ish).

So what actually happens in an ending doesn't matter, it's how difficult it is to get to the ending that makes it "best"?

Or are you arguing that the "green" ending should have required more points than any version of the "red" ending?

Modifié par AlanC9, 27 mars 2012 - 08:02 .

[Sebbe1337o]

Wow, that is strange indeed. There isn't even 11k war assets in the game lol.

[AlanC9]

Art3mShepard wrote...

Well, I obviously cannot proof this is not hacked in any way, but i give you my word it's plausible

Sure, you can prove it. Just upload your save so we can all see where those point totals came from.

[AlanC9]

Femlob wrote...

Definately shopped.

Maximum Alien Value: 1,000
Maximum Alliance Value: 1,916
Maximum Asari Value: 708
Maximum Crucible Value: 870
Maximum Ex-Cerberus Value: 260
Maximum Krogan Value: 925

http://www.femlob.co.../me3-values.txt

Fail troll is fail.

A little harsh. A lot of folks have hacked files and don't know it. Note that he doesn't actually have the game registered, which may or may not mean something about his install.

[Sebbe1337o]

AlanC9 wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Definately shopped.

Maximum Alien Value: 1,000
Maximum Alliance Value: 1,916
Maximum Asari Value: 708
Maximum Crucible Value: 870
Maximum Ex-Cerberus Value: 260
Maximum Krogan Value: 925

http://www.femlob.co.../me3-values.txt

Fail troll is fail.

A little harsh. A lot of folks have hacked files and don't know it. Note that he doesn't actually have the game registered, which may or may not mean something about his install.

Quoted for truth.

[devSin]

Yeah, some of the Coalesced.bin hacks have additional changes that aren't specified, so a user thinks (or claims to think) they're getting only certain changes, but they end up with more than those specific changes, commonly including altered asset values.

Altering the photos is not easy nor necessary. Any impossible values are the result of an edited Coalesced.bin or save-game editing.

It's a real screenshot, but the data is not legitimate. There are fewer than 8,000 total assets attainable in the single-player campaign.

[Art3m]

AlanC9 wrote...

Art3mShepard wrote...

Well, I obviously cannot proof this is not hacked in any way, but i give you my word it's plausible

Sure, you can prove it. Just upload your save so we can all see where those point totals came from.

http://depositfiles....files/gqp9e8gm9
Here you go. No intentions to troll anybody. Just trying to give my 2 cents in clearing the situation out.

[adlocutio]

This is extremely disappointing, but even moreso if "breath" affects future content, even if it's just a line about how Sheperd lived out the rest of his life rebuilding Earth, or making babies, or whatever.

Mostly, it's disappointing if it signals the direction of future games. Forced multiplayer and Origin are the most intrusive and unwelcome form of DRM yet.

[OdanUrr]

Art3mShepard wrote...

http://depositfiles....files/gqp9e8gm9
Here you go. No intentions to troll anybody. Just trying to give my 2 cents in clearing the situation out.

Some (I didn't check them all) of those assets are doubled. For instance, Chakwas should be 10 points and you have it at 20 points.