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[wrc78]

Thank you for providing your save.

OdanUrr wrote...
Some
(I didn't check them all) of those assets are doubled. For instance,
Chakwas should be 10 points and you have it at 20 points.

Yes, I noticed the same thing for the krogan, with two war assets that respectively should give you 345 and 300 were giving you 645 and 600 without any reason (Krogans Clans and Urdnot clan).

So there are indeed very strange things in your file.

Modifié par wrc78, 27 mars 2012 - 08:59 .

[KBomb]

jreezy wrote...

I doubt that's EMS.

Yeah. That's 4,272 more assets than the game even has. 

[BentOrgy]

Wow, this thread's still alive? Didn't we cover this in the first page? Oooh... People.

And feel sorry for you KBomb, I've been flipping through the last few pages, and it seems no matter how many times you say it, idiots keep missing the point. Have a wizard on me.

[Malcroix]

wrc78 wrote...

Thank you for providing your save.

OdanUrr wrote...
Some
(I didn't check them all) of those assets are doubled. For instance,
Chakwas should be 10 points and you have it at 20 points.

Yes, I noticed the same thing for the krogan, with two war assets that respectively should give you 345 and 300 were giving you 645 and 600 without any reason (Krogans Clans and Urdnot clan).

So there are indeed very strange things in your file.

Gibbed's save game editor, most likely.

If the data appeared correct on your computer, and doubled on his, then definitely a Coalesced hack.

If the data stays doubled on your computer, save game editor.

Anyway, after the community's conclusive proofs, I cannot help but LOL @ this.

Modifié par Malcroix, 27 mars 2012 - 09:34 .

[DJ CAVE SLAVE]

KBomb wrote...

b00mQQ wrote...

I got over 9000 EMS with a fresh character.

kk, again---screenshot or it didn't happen.

That was a joke.

[KBomb]

DJCS wrote...

KBomb wrote...

b00mQQ wrote...

I got over 9000 EMS with a fresh character.

kk, again---screenshot or it didn't happen.

That was a joke.

meh, who can tell anymore.

[res27772]

Well, I've satisfied myself now that it is in fact BS that you can get 4000+ in SP, even with "accumulative" play.

I've just finished a "New Game ++" playthrough, and I'm still short by several hundred points on the EMS.

If you're confused by New ++ it's basicly :-
ME1 > ME2 > ME3 > ME3-NG+ > ME3-NG++

[Golden Owl]

I'm going to be testing this theory...I have been going through the Official Game Guide taking notes, it does give the information ....if your patient enough to go through the missions and background word for word...as to which choices from all three games gives you the highest points.

My test is going to take a while, as I am going to have to start back at ME1....but once it is done, I will be posting the results.

[CoffeeHolic93]

Golden Owl wrote...

I'm going to be testing this theory...I have been going through the Official Game Guide taking notes, it does give the information ....if your patient enough to go through the missions and background word for word...as to which choices from all three games gives you the highest points.

My test is going to take a while, as I am going to have to start back at ME1....but once it is done, I will be posting the results.

For Science! 

[av196vad]

I just finished the game and scanned the hell out of the galaxy. I have 6400 EMS at 100% Galactic Readiness due to multiplayer. AT 50% Galactic Readiness it would be around 3200. So from my experience it is impossible to get the best ending from single player alone. Kinda ridiculous that we haven't gotten a response from a dev on this issue yet.

Modifié par av196vad, 29 mars 2012 - 01:37 .

[bluewolv1970]

NO you cannot despite claims you can...IT IS NOT AT ALL POSSIBLE

[JediHealerCosmin]

It's freaking impossible.

I've explored 100% of the galaxy in ME1 + all quests (yes I have such a playthrough)

---> imported this save in ME2 where I did the same thing (all DLC + all planets explored + all quests finished and +100.000 to all resources gathered from planet scanning)  yes I am that insane

---> imported this in ME3, done absolutely every possible quest and explored everything (including the random fuel deposits in every system)

Final EMS was aproximatly 3687

It's just not duable. I'm playing on NG+ now (my first insanity run) but I really doubt I can do any better. 

[TheMightyG00sh]

PS3 players couldn't I don't think. But I believe you would need to:

Complete Grissom Academy mission WITH Jack alive.

Complete Aralahk Company mission with Grunt alive. (Not entirely sure which war asset is better between Rachni and Aralahk company though so I'm not sure how to end this one)

Rewrite the Geth Heretics in Mass Effect 2 and have Legion loyal.

Favour peace instead of war and save Tali from being exiled in ME2

Broker peace between the Geth and the Quarians.

Have Wrex survive Virmire mission.

Save the Rachni Queen (If she doesn't does Grunt's mission sitll happen or are you automatically gien the War Asset?)

Broker peace between Krogan and Turians.

Disable the Turian bomb. If Cebrerus sets that thing off it will mean that there will be a lower amount of Krogan forces and therefore a smaller amount of EMS given.

Help Jondum Bau. He becomes a War Asset.

Leave NO ONE behind. This means saving Kirrahe, the original council and the entire Normandy Crew.

With Zaeed alive you get access to a side mission in ME3 anda Volus bombing fleet.

Help Aria gain the allegiances of all three merc bands.

Have Miranda and Samara survive the ME3 side mission. This requires their loyalty and for Miranda (not sure about Samara) several points of help before Cerberus HQ Assault. (this also means picking Samara over Morinth in ME2 as Morinth only does the you've got mail thing)

Simply put it is probably but you will require the perfect playthrough throughout the entire trilogy as well a user guide for ME3 and enough spare time to do EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) without casualty.

Each individual you know (Grunt, Kirrahe, Legion, Tali etc.) who takes part in the battle for Earth each come with their own war asset score.

It'll be hard without Multiplayer (you'll need twice the core strengthy with means you need more people to survive the events of the previous two games.Also I'm not sure if it helps but I wouldn't recommend handing Cerberus the Collector Base... just a hunch.

Note that I haven't done this myself but I  have two weeks off starting tomorrow so I may see if it is possible.

Modifié par TheMightyG00sh, 29 mars 2012 - 03:37 .

[bluewolv1970]

why are we still debating this at all - it simply is not possible - even if you get warassets from ME such as Zhu's hope and Conrad - it does not matter you cannot get more than 3750 INCLUDING FROM ASHES...

[Siven80]

Not possible.

[OdanUrr]

TheMightyG00sh wrote...

Simply put it is probably but you will require the perfect playthrough throughout the entire trilogy as well a user guide for ME3 and enough spare time to do EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) without casualty.

Done. Still short by some 400+ points.

[BeefoTheBold]

I talked with a buddy of mine and he said that it is TECHNICALLY possible but only under a set of circumstances that makes it impossible in actuality.

He says if you've made pretty much every "right" decision possible ACROSS ALL THREE GAMES you can get over 4000 EMS. So this is an example of something that, if my buddy is right, is technically true but collectively bull****.

Bioware really screwed the pooch by making the MP impact the SP game at all. My personal preference would be that the MP mode had never been created in the first place.

(Think those resources that went to MP or Kinect could have been used to build us a functional journal, the endings they promised, a decent Tali face reveal, more dialog options, etc?)

But the really bad thing was having the MP impact the SP.

The real risk of MP is that it takes resources away from getting the SP right. People were concerned about this as soon as the MP announcement was made. They were called bad names and told to "trust Bioware". Well, those people have been proven right. The SP was close to right, but failed in a number of very key areas.

It is my hope that in the future Bioware will remove the MP again entirely so that we are more likely to get a finished, polished SP product.

Barring that, I'll settle for MP NEVER IMPACTING SP IN ANY WAY EVER AGAIN.

[TheMightyG00sh]

OdanUrr wrote...

TheMightyG00sh wrote...

Simply put it is probably but you will require the perfect playthrough throughout the entire trilogy as well a user guide for ME3 and enough spare time to do EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) without casualty.

Done. Still short by some 400+ points.

Wow really?

That sucks...

[TUHD]

No, it is not possible. I did an 'perfect' playthrough and got to slightly above 7400 (I already subtracted the score of promoted MP-chars) GAW-score - if you count in that without playing MP your Readiness is 50%, that makes an EMS of max 3700. So no, the promise of 'perfect ending without MP' is an blatant lie.
Edit: The original Council is alive. I did all sidemissions, supported all those on the Citadel which raised GAW (no depletions), original Normandy crew and ME2 was alive (as far as possible of course), Jack's alive, Legion is there, Kasumi is, Zaeed is, Grunt is.... Peace between Quarians and Geth, rewrote heretics, etc... it's an insane long piece if I'd need to write it all out, but it cannot be there then I have. And still, with 50% readiness, I wouldn't have enough.

Modifié par TUHD, 29 mars 2012 - 04:11 .

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Pretty sure it caps at 3800 without "cheating" or using MP

[Lalalandia]

So Chris Priestly will take the time to lock a thread that calls out the nonsense contained in Jarrett Lee's sticky but can't find the time to post the 'magic' formula that nets 4,000+ EMS on SP alone?

Lame

[av196vad]

Lalalandia wrote...

So Chris Priestly will take the time to lock a thread that calls out the nonsense contained in Jarrett Lee's sticky but can't find the time to post the 'magic' formula that nets 4,000+ EMS on SP alone?

Lame

Agreed. I'm not going to lie, I'm more pissed about the fact that they forced us to play multiplayer rather than the endings.
BioWare, if what you are saying is true......please elaborate. That would be a welcome relief

Modifié par av196vad, 29 mars 2012 - 06:59 .

[TheRealJayDee]

Lalalandia wrote...

So Chris Priestly will take the time to lock a thread that calls out the nonsense contained in Jarrett Lee's sticky but can't find the time to post the 'magic' formula that nets 4,000+ EMS on SP alone?

Lame

Lame, indeed. It's not even the slightest bit funny anymore.

[grimkillah]

Alien - 1000
Batarian Fleet - 155
Citadel Defense Force - 217
Elcor Flotilla - 40
Hanar and Drell Forces - 58
Rachni Workers - 100
Shadow Broker Support Team - 40
Shadow Broker Wet Squad - 25
Spectre Unit - 40
Terminus Fleet - 200
Volus Bombing Fleet - 75
Volus Dreadnought - 50

Alliance - 1676
Alliance 1st Fleet - 103
Alliance 3rd Fleet - 105
Alliance 5th Fleet - 108
Alliance 6th Fleet - 90
Alliance 103rd Marine Division - 200
Alliance Cruiser Shanghai - 40
Alliance Engineering Corps - 290
Alliance Frigate Normandy SR-2 - 115
Alliance Naval Exploration Flotilla - 75
Alliance Spec Ops Team Delta - 35
Arcturus 1st Division - 60
Ashley Williams - 25
Communications Arrays - 50
Eden Prime Support - 100
Diana Allers - 5
Dr. Karin Chakwas - 10
Jack - 25
Kahlee Sanders - 30
Kasumi Goto - 25
Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani - 10
Mineral Resources - 100
Rogue Fighter Pilots - 20
Zaeed Massani - 25
Zhu's Hope Colonists - 30

Asari - 668
Armali Sniper Unit - 30
Asari 2nd Fleet - 123
Asari 6th Fleet - 130
Asari Commandos - 20
Asari Cruiser Cybaen - 30
Asari Cruiser Nefrane - 30
Asari Engineers - 30
Asari Research Ships - 35
Asari Science Team - 90
Destiny Ascension - 70
Dr. Jelize - 25
Samara - 25
Serrice Guard - 30

Crucible - 805
Advanced AI Relays - 45
Advanced Power Relays - 50
Advanced Starship Fuel - 75
Dark Energy Dissertation - 5
Element Zero Converter - 50
Emergency Fuel Pods - 30
ExoGeni Scientists - 40
Haptic Optics Array - 50
Interferometric Array - 45
Javelin Missile Launchers - 50
Optimized Eezo Capacitors - 15
Prothean Data Files - 75
Reaper Heart - 100
Shadow Broker Starship Tech - 50
Terminus Freighters - 30
Volus Engineering Team - 50
Volus Fabrication Units - 45

Ex-Cerberus - 300
Advanced Fighter Squadron - 75
Cerberus Escapees - 40 - (from iOS Mass Effect Infiltrator)
Cerberus Research Data - 50
Dr. Brynn Cole - 25
Dr. Gavin Archer - 25
Ex-Cerberus Engineers - 10
Ex-Cerberus Scientists - 25
Jacob Taylor - 25
Miranda Lawson - 25

Geth - 515
Geth Corps - 305
Geth Fleet - 150
Geth Prime Platoon - 60

Krogan - 875
Aralakh Company - 50
Clan Urdnot - 300
Grunt - 25
Krogan 1st Division - 50
Krogan Clans - 345
Krogan Mercenaries - 75
Urdnot Wrex - 30

Quarian - 825
Admiral Daro'Xen - 25
Admiral Zaal'Koris - 25
Quarian Civilian Fleet - 250
Quarian Heavy Fleet - 275
Quarian Patrol Fleet - 250

Salarian - 188
Major Kirrahe - 20
Salarian 3rd Fleet - 133
Salarian Special Tasks Group - 35

Turian - 633
Turian 6th Fleet - 143
Turian 7th Fleet - 135
Turian 43rd Marine Division - 90
Turian 79th Flotilla - 40
Turian Blackwatch - 75
Turian Engineering Corps - 110
Turian Spec Ops Team - 40

Total - 7485
EMS - 3742

100% paragon playthrough out of all three games.
Saved Wrex ME1
Saved Destiny Ascension ME1
Saved Rachni Queen ME1
All teammate loyal and survived ME2
Destroyed Collector Base ME2
Destroyed Geth Heretics ME2 (reason I view this as paragon is if Shepard rewrite then we rob of them their choices, the Heretics made their decisions, and it is only fair to give them the outcome to their decisions, while they died, at least their choices mattered, unlike the ME3 ending which I view in the same light as rewritten them)
All DLC played
iOS Mass Effect Infiltrator played

So it is not possible currently to get 4000+ EMS without MP.