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[HOUSE MDD]

i have seen the scene without MP and got over 4k it all depends on you various decisions and imports. E.g me2 import with saving collector base gives you 110 for brain, but if you destroyed it you only get 100 for heart. its all about you decisions through imports and decisions in me3 with supporting various chars etc. like news interviews etc etc. it is possible. Check youtube there are loads of vids proving it.

[ebevan91]

staindgrey wrote...

devSin wrote...

There are around 7,500 total assets attainable in the game.

It is not possible to achieve 4,000 or more EMS with the default 50% readiness.

You can cheat your saved game to increase assets; otherwise, you need to play multiplayer or use the iOS apps to increase your readiness.

Care to explain how I got 4000pts despite not touching MP until after my campaign was totally completed?

Seriously. People need to stop speaking in absolutes here. It can happen. It's needlessly hard and requires you to make certain moral decisions if you want it sans-multiplayer (bad idea), but it can happen. Get over it.

Care to explain how YOU got 4000 pts despite not touching MP until after your campaign was totally completed?

[xMellowhype]

HOUSE MDD wrote...

i have seen the scene without MP and got over 4k it all depends on you various decisions and imports. E.g me2 import with saving collector base gives you 110 for brain, but if you destroyed it you only get 100 for heart. its all about you decisions through imports and decisions in me3 with supporting various chars etc. like news interviews etc etc. it is possible. Check youtube there are loads of vids proving it.

I dare you to even post one. You won't find any

[xMellowhype]

jreezy wrote...

HOUSE MDD wrote...

i have seen the scene without MP and got over 4k it all depends on you various decisions and imports. E.g me2 import with saving collector base gives you 110 for brain, but if you destroyed it you only get 100 for heart. its all about you decisions through imports and decisions in me3 with supporting various chars etc. like news interviews etc etc. it is possible. Check youtube there are loads of vids proving it.

Y U NO TELL TRUTH?!

Either people can't understand Engrish but apparently the easiest way to solving the situation by providing proof is a scenario that escapes people like you. 

It's actually hilarious of the lack of common sense in these boards.

Modifié par xMellowhype, 04 avril 2012 - 01:53 .

[xMellowhype]

Yup, stunning silence. Good job liars.

[bluewolv1970]

HOUSE MDD wrote...

i have seen the scene without MP and got over 4k it all depends on you various decisions and imports. E.g me2 import with saving collector base gives you 110 for brain, but if you destroyed it you only get 100 for heart. its all about you decisions through imports and decisions in me3 with supporting various chars etc. like news interviews etc etc. it is possible. Check youtube there are loads of vids proving it.

you are full of it...the game does not have more than 3700 war assets on the disc, so quit lying to get attention...

[HOUSE MDD]

here are the choices you can make to earn the respective score needed throughout 1 2 and 3.

•Have saved the council in Mass Effect 1 and had Thane survive Mass Effect 2.


Want to get both the Krogan and the Salarians? Make sure Wrex dies on Virmire...

•Recovered all of the Matriarch’s writings in Mass Effect 1.
•Saved Captain Kirrahe in Mass Effect 1.
•Killed Urnot Wrex in Mass Effect 1.
•Allowed Balak to survive the Mass Effect 1 DLC: Burning Down the Sky.
•Saved the Rachnii Queen in Mass Effect 1 and released her again in Mass Effect 3.
•Helped most of the Zhu’s hope colonists survive Mass Effect 1. Shiala must have been spared in Mass Effect 1 and helped on Ilium in Mass Effect 2.
•Completed Kasumi’s loyalty mission in Mass Effect 2 and had Kasumi survive the suicide mission.
•Jack must have survived Mass Effect 2.
•Samara must have survived Mass Effect 2.
•Zaeed must have survived Mass Effect 2 with full loyalty.
•Jacob must have survived Mass Effect 2 with his loyalty quest completed.
•Grunt must have survived Mass Effect 2 and you must have completed his quest by killing the Thresher Maw.
•Mordin Solus must have survived Mass Effect 2 (and likely needs to be loyal).
•Save all the Normandy crew in Mass Effect 2 (have all the upgrades to the Normandy). Choose to reinstate Kenneth and Gabby to the Normandy in Mass Effect 3.
•Kept Maelon’s genophage cure data in Mass Effect 2.
•Collected a large amount of surplus resources in Mass Effect 2.
•Given Tali’s Father’s research to Admiral Xen in Mass Effect 2.
•Keep the collector base intact in Mass Effect 2.
•Completed the Arrival DLC for Mass Effect 2.
•Completed the Overlord DLC in Mass Effect 2 as a Paragon.
•Refuse to take Dr. Chakwas with you on the Normandy in Mass Effect 3.
•Refuse to take Ashley/Kaiden with you on the Normandy in Mass Effect 3 once they become a Spectre.
•Convince Kelly Chambers to change her identity in Mass Effect 3.
•Choose to use the Grissom Academy students as Biotic Artillery in Mass Effect 3.
•Do not save the Turian Colony in the Volus Ambassador quest in Mass Effect 3.
•Do not punch Khasila Bint Al Jilani in any of the Mass Effect games.
•Save Admiral Kal’Zoris on Rannoch in Mass Effect 3.
•Convince Admiral Raan to rescue Admiral Gerral’s heavy fleet in Mass Effect 3.
•Convince the Geth and Quarians to stop fighting and both join you in Mass Effect 3.
•Convince Mordin to sabotage/delay the genophage cure in Mass Effect 3.\\
•Get C-Sec to focus on big crimes (Support angry officer and cafe owner in Mass Effect 3).
•Do not authorise the Alliance private’s transfer at the Spectre Terminal (Mass Effect 3).
•Do not allow the Asari in the hospital to have a gun (Spectre Terminal, Mass Effect 3 )

in total adds to 8500 or 4250 ems roughly

[Kuriby]

Holy crap after reading 12 pages of this forums.... WOW... comprehension and math skills of some people are worst then my 6 year old nephew.

[KustomDeluxe]

HOUSE MDD wrote...

here are the choices you can make to earn the respective score needed throughout 1 2 and 3.

•Have saved the council in Mass Effect 1 and had Thane survive Mass Effect 2.


Want to get both the Krogan and the Salarians? Make sure Wrex dies on Virmire...

•Recovered all of the Matriarch’s writings in Mass Effect 1.
•Saved Captain Kirrahe in Mass Effect 1.
•Killed Urnot Wrex in Mass Effect 1.
•Allowed Balak to survive the Mass Effect 1 DLC: Burning Down the Sky.
•Saved the Rachnii Queen in Mass Effect 1 and released her again in Mass Effect 3.
•Helped most of the Zhu’s hope colonists survive Mass Effect 1. Shiala must have been spared in Mass Effect 1 and helped on Ilium in Mass Effect 2.
•Completed Kasumi’s loyalty mission in Mass Effect 2 and had Kasumi survive the suicide mission.
•Jack must have survived Mass Effect 2.
•Samara must have survived Mass Effect 2.
•Zaeed must have survived Mass Effect 2 with full loyalty.
•Jacob must have survived Mass Effect 2 with his loyalty quest completed.
•Grunt must have survived Mass Effect 2 and you must have completed his quest by killing the Thresher Maw.
•Mordin Solus must have survived Mass Effect 2 (and likely needs to be loyal).
•Save all the Normandy crew in Mass Effect 2 (have all the upgrades to the Normandy). Choose to reinstate Kenneth and Gabby to the Normandy in Mass Effect 3.
•Kept Maelon’s genophage cure data in Mass Effect 2.
•Collected a large amount of surplus resources in Mass Effect 2.
•Given Tali’s Father’s research to Admiral Xen in Mass Effect 2.
•Keep the collector base intact in Mass Effect 2.
•Completed the Arrival DLC for Mass Effect 2.
•Completed the Overlord DLC in Mass Effect 2 as a Paragon.
•Refuse to take Dr. Chakwas with you on the Normandy in Mass Effect 3.
•Refuse to take Ashley/Kaiden with you on the Normandy in Mass Effect 3 once they become a Spectre.
•Convince Kelly Chambers to change her identity in Mass Effect 3.
•Choose to use the Grissom Academy students as Biotic Artillery in Mass Effect 3.
•Do not save the Turian Colony in the Volus Ambassador quest in Mass Effect 3.
•Do not punch Khasila Bint Al Jilani in any of the Mass Effect games.
•Save Admiral Kal’Zoris on Rannoch in Mass Effect 3.
•Convince Admiral Raan to rescue Admiral Gerral’s heavy fleet in Mass Effect 3.
•Convince the Geth and Quarians to stop fighting and both join you in Mass Effect 3.
•Convince Mordin to sabotage/delay the genophage cure in Mass Effect 3.
•Get C-Sec to focus on big crimes (Support angry officer and cafe owner in Mass Effect 3).
•Do not authorise the Alliance private’s transfer at the Spectre Terminal (Mass Effect 3).
•Do not allow the Asari in the hospital to have a gun (Spectre Terminal, Mass Effect 3 )

in total adds to 8500 or 4250 ems roughly

Pics/links/proof...
Or...
It...
Didn't...
Happen.

[tishyw]

HOUSE MDD wrote...

here are the choices you can make to earn the respective score needed throughout 1 2 and 3.

•Have saved the council in Mass Effect 1 and had Thane survive Mass Effect 2.


Want to get both the Krogan and the Salarians? Make sure Wrex dies on Virmire...

•Recovered all of the Matriarch’s writings in Mass Effect 1.
•Saved Captain Kirrahe in Mass Effect 1.
•Killed Urnot Wrex in Mass Effect 1.
•Allowed Balak to survive the Mass Effect 1 DLC: Burning Down the Sky.
•Saved the Rachnii Queen in Mass Effect 1 and released her again in Mass Effect 3.
•Helped most of the Zhu’s hope colonists survive Mass Effect 1. Shiala must have been spared in Mass Effect 1 and helped on Ilium in Mass Effect 2.
•Completed Kasumi’s loyalty mission in Mass Effect 2 and had Kasumi survive the suicide mission.
•Jack must have survived Mass Effect 2.
•Samara must have survived Mass Effect 2.
•Zaeed must have survived Mass Effect 2 with full loyalty.
•Jacob must have survived Mass Effect 2 with his loyalty quest completed.
•Grunt must have survived Mass Effect 2 and you must have completed his quest by killing the Thresher Maw.
•Mordin Solus must have survived Mass Effect 2 (and likely needs to be loyal).
•Save all the Normandy crew in Mass Effect 2 (have all the upgrades to the Normandy). Choose to reinstate Kenneth and Gabby to the Normandy in Mass Effect 3.
•Kept Maelon’s genophage cure data in Mass Effect 2.
•Collected a large amount of surplus resources in Mass Effect 2.
•Given Tali’s Father’s research to Admiral Xen in Mass Effect 2.
•Keep the collector base intact in Mass Effect 2.
•Completed the Arrival DLC for Mass Effect 2.
•Completed the Overlord DLC in Mass Effect 2 as a Paragon.
•Refuse to take Dr. Chakwas with you on the Normandy in Mass Effect 3.
•Refuse to take Ashley/Kaiden with you on the Normandy in Mass Effect 3 once they become a Spectre.
•Convince Kelly Chambers to change her identity in Mass Effect 3.
•Choose to use the Grissom Academy students as Biotic Artillery in Mass Effect 3.
•Do not save the Turian Colony in the Volus Ambassador quest in Mass Effect 3.
•Do not punch Khasila Bint Al Jilani in any of the Mass Effect games.
•Save Admiral Kal’Zoris on Rannoch in Mass Effect 3.
•Convince Admiral Raan to rescue Admiral Gerral’s heavy fleet in Mass Effect 3.
•Convince the Geth and Quarians to stop fighting and both join you in Mass Effect 3.
•Convince Mordin to sabotage/delay the genophage cure in Mass Effect 3.
•Get C-Sec to focus on big crimes (Support angry officer and cafe owner in Mass Effect 3).
•Do not authorise the Alliance private’s transfer at the Spectre Terminal (Mass Effect 3).
•Do not allow the Asari in the hospital to have a gun (Spectre Terminal, Mass Effect 3 )

in total adds to 8500 or 4250 ems roughly

You are aware that all the data files have been mined aren't you?  The maths has been done and even with everyting you've listed it's not possible to get to 4,000 points let alone 4250.  There are simply not enough points in the game.

[Dr. Jacko]

I did it, with almost entirely Paragon decisions. I shot some random mooks, but otherwise I was civil.

[KBomb]

I keep seeing people justify Bioware's words and trying desperately to find loopholes so that it's somehow our fault that there is a misunderstanding. It's our fault for not understanding Bioware's words. “To be fair, Bioware said that there was enough EMS to get the best endings!” That isn't all they've said.

In this interview, Jarrett Lee says:
"Your ending(s) are determined by your “Effective Military Strength” (let’s call it EMS for now) bar. Focus on that bar – that is your indicator of how well you will do in the end-game,” said senior marketing manager Jarrett Lee.

“You can maximize your EMS just by collecting War Assets in the single-player game. There is a certain threshhold of these you would need to exceed (I can’t get too specific) but I can tell you there are MORE than the required amount that can be gathered in the single-player campaign.”
Source.

In this interview with Aaryn Flynn, he emphasises on many occasions how MP is optional and an alternative.
TGL: Why is it important that it’s complimentary to the Mass Effect experience, without ever stepping on the toes of the core single-player experience?

AF: It’s important. The idea is that as you are going through the multiplayer and you choose to play it, you can take advantage of the benefits in there, but that’s completely optional to the single player experience. It’s another way of achieving things that you can do in the single player campaign.


TGL: Is there an element of caution when approaching Mass Effect multiplayer especially given how the franchise is built on an established single-player experience? It might be intimidating for some players….

AF: We’ve heard a lot of feedback from people since we’ve announced multiplayer on what they expect and one thing I’m really happy with is that since we’ve made the announcement people have been universally excited with what we’re doing. We’ve committed to not sacrificing the single-player in any way. Multiplayer is optional and it’s just another way of experiencing the gameplay in a different setting and a different environment in a new way with your friends. Yes there is a pressure on us and I think were beating this.
Source.

Now for some contradiction: From the same interview...

TGL: In what way does multiplayer compliment single player? Are there any incentives to player both modes and is there any kind of crossover?

AF: With the galaxy at war system underpinning both these modes, the idea is that things that happen in one campaign can affect the other and this is consistent either way. Single-player certainly affects and opens up options in multiplayer. We haven’t fully pinned it down yet and we still have to finalise what we’re going to ship with but we do want to see that flow that allows you to do things in the single-player that will affect the multiplayer.


And here is Casey Hudson talking about how MP are separate, yet says this:
“The better you do, the more you control, the better your single player ending will be. Ultimately, it's about adding more player choice. If you want to do a really complete single player play-through, then you can absolutely get to the highest level of success in the ending, but now you also have an alternative. You can take more of that experience into MP.”
Source around 2:06


 Face it, they messed the system up somehow. Whether intentionally, or mistakenly. Either way, it's impossible. People need to stop saying it is possible. Even the gaming media knows it isn't possible. Source. Stop defending the actions and accept them, or move on to another cause in which you can defend Bioware, because it isn't here.

Modifié par KBomb, 04 avril 2012 - 02:59 .

[Canned Bullets]

As for the original question. No, a lot of people confuse war assets with EMS but even if you have 7200 war assets without multiplayer it will only account to 3600 EMS.

[DBZMagus]

It is absolutely not possible, despite the sticky which is lying to customers and has been up for weeks. They are aware of this, I have PMed the guy that made the sticky. He responded and admitted he didn't even know if it was true, but the sticky is still there. I thought that it was possible a few weeks ago, but it turned out to be some kind of glitch where my assets were higher than they should have been.

[KBomb]

FallTooDovahkiin wrote...

bazzag wrote...

i got something like 4300 without mp, so yeah

^

Good grief.


Show a screenshot to prove it and please take a look at my signature.

[Tietj]

Yeah, it can be done but only if your game is bugged. There's a bug that doubles certain war assets, sometimes it will allow someone to get over the 4000 mark. Other than that, no. And even if it were possible, it's not exactly fair to PS3 players if Bioware made it contingent on playing ME1 a certain way.

[Zolt51]

FallTooDovahkiin wrote...

Not my problem if you don't want to believe me. So.. thats a your problem, not mine.
Ill take a picture, just won't be best quality in the damn area.

Actually , a pic of your TV screen would be harder to 'shop than a PC screenshot, so I'll buy that if you show it.

[KBomb]

FallTooDovahkiin wrote...

Xbox Player. Can't take screen shots. 


And thats just you. I got 4,100 EMS without MP and no, that is not TMS.
It can be done.


Not my problem if you don't want to believe me. So.. thats a your problem, not mine.
Ill take a picture, just won't be best quality in the damn area.

 
Then take a photo. That simple. It isn't possible to reach it. That isn't just me, that is everyone. So, let's see it.  We await.


@ Tietj I believe that is only for PC players. I don't think that has happened for anyone on Xbox, though I could be wrong. Mainly the photos I have seen from Xbox users have clearly used Gibbed, as some weren't doubled, but raised a little higher than normal to just barely move them over the 4k or 5k mark.

[Tietj]

@KBomb I didn't know that, I did wonder though. Thanks for clearing that up. In that case, this is probably a lie. I hope it isn't, although like I said, sucks for PS3 takers if you need some sort of trilogy-spanning metagaming to make it happen.

[KBomb]

Tietj wrote...

@KBomb I didn't know that, I did wonder though. Thanks for clearing that up. In that case, this is probably a lie. I hope it isn't, although like I said, sucks for PS3 takers if you need some sort of trilogy-spanning metagaming to make it happen.

No problem. 

I honestly don't see how the PS3 users could make it up since they would have to do without Conrad Verner—which I think gives you more assets if you found all of a certain file in ME1. I want to say the Asari ones, but I could be wrong about that. The Genesis chooser for PS3 skipped over Feros completely, so I don't know if they get the Exogeni assets or the colonists ones either. Those all combined probably won't add up to a lot, but enough to make it difficult on a scale that is already impossible or difficult to obtain. Not to mention they can't use any Gibbed.


Tbh, I feel worse for them. At least I can use Gibbed if I choose to play again. They have no other option but to rely on an outside source such as MP.