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[Tietj]

@kmatthews No, you're wrong. Please stop guessing. All the previous games' assets have been taken into account.

[kmatthews]

Tietj wrote...

Sorry if it seems like we jumped down your throat. But we're mostly completionists here too. It's frustrating when some people post things along the lines of "Well, I know it's possible you just need to do every sidequest" as though we didn't try that. The fact is, nobody has ever proven that it is possible and more than one person has shown it to be impossible. There are people with a bug that doubles certain war assets and let's them barely break 4000. But aside from that, it is not achievable and people claiming it is are only confusing the issue.

I've completed ME3 twice, so its not like I'm talking off the top of my head & I want to get the ending where Shepard lives as much as anyone else, considering I can't play MP even if I wanted to. My highest EMS during my playthrough was 3100, but I didn't have any of DLC, Legion died during suicide mission, Tali wasn't loyal in ME2 (not an Admiral) & dies in ME3, I didn't get the Quarian fleet, & I kill Mordin. Plus I hit annoying tv interviewer everytime I saw her, which deducts EMS points.

[Primalrose]

Golden Owl wrote...

Completionist in ME1, ME2 and ME3....all side quests, everything that can be scanned/picked up/found/etc....done....level 60 ME1...level 30 ME2...everyone loyal...all DLCs included...no stone unturned, games wrung out of all content....everyh Paragon trigger pulled, every Paragon blue dialog used....my Uber Paragon cannot get more that 3646 EMS.

This is almost exactly what I got too and played exactly the same, except I pulled a renegade on Mordin but still got the same EMS.

Modifié par Primalrose, 09 avril 2012 - 02:00 .

[StarAce905-2]

@kmatthews: Can you please post your TMS numbers?
Oh, and adding the numbers in the Wiki won't help, as some assets are mutually exclusive, like Admiral Mikhailovich and Destiny Ascension, or rachni workers and a part of Aralakh company. So you can never get all in one playthrough.

[Tietj]

@kmatthews You're nowhere near having enough. The things you've mentioned as having missed will never total up to the 1800 EMS points you need, not even close. I'm sorry

[bluewolv1970]

the best hope we have is Thomas Abram who has taken it upon himself to investigate the situation...the fact the stickied thread was removed is a good sign actually...

[kmatthews]

StarAce905-2 wrote...

@kmatthews: Can you please post your TMS numbers?
Oh, and adding the numbers in the Wiki won't help, as some assets are mutually exclusive, like Admiral Mikhailovich and Destiny Ascension, or rachni workers and a part of Aralakh company. So you can never get all in one playthrough.

I took that into account when I added. & http://i40.tinypic.com/15qt99j.png is my most recent playthrough, but like I said I didn't have any of the DLC, Legion died in suicide mission etc.

[Tietj]

The things you missed will not even come close to getting you 4000. You need 1800 more TMS and the things you mentioned aren't worth that much by a long shot.

[kmatthews]

Tietj wrote...

The things you missed will not even come close to getting you 4000. You need 1800 more TMS and the things you mentioned aren't worth that much by a long shot.

Whatever I'm done trying to discuss something with someone who keeps attacking me, but if I finish ME3 with 4000EMS you will be eating your words.

[Tietj]

How on earth am I attacking you?

[StarAce905-2]

kmatthews wrote...

Tietj wrote...

The things you missed will not even come close to getting you 4000. You need 1800 more TMS and the things you mentioned aren't worth that much by a long shot.

Whatever I'm done trying to discuss something with someone who keeps attacking me, but if I finish ME3 with 4000EMS you will be eating your words.

If you do so, please tell us how as well. After all, so many people have been trying to do this and have failed. In an ME2 playthrough where only 6 members survived, I managed to rack up 2800 EMS after importing into ME3. The first 3000 or so is VERY EASY to get. Getting the remaining possible amount, VERY DIFFICULT. For example, I never bought Bring Down The Sky for ME1, so now if I want everything, I'll have to buy that and play through from the start of ME1 itself.

[Kub666]

kmatthews wrote...

Whatever I'm done trying to discuss something with someone who keeps attacking me, but if I finish ME3 with 4000EMS you will be eating your words.

What? Now you're just trolling, nobody's attacking you. You're mistaken about EMS and we don't really need more confused people showing Bioware that nothing is wrong.

Please come back here with a screenshot of your EMS.

[Forsythia]

How an anyone still say that this is possible to achieve, when the bloody game files have been dissected over and over, proving it is not?!

At least the sticky has been taken down, hopefully this means they know about the issue and provide a patch.

[KBomb]

Have you noticed how many people claim to have gotten over 4,000 EMS points and swears how easy it is, but as soon as you ask them to tell you their asset numbers or to show visual proof—they start saying how they added it up on wiki or link you to Lee's (removed now) MP thread? If they achieved it for themselves, why do they keep directing you to other sources for proof. Rhetorical, btw.

If I had a dime for every time this happened...

[Krogangreetings]

The fact that the sticky is gone is proof enough for me

now it's just a matter of if it'll be fixed or if it'll be ignored

[bluewolv1970]

Krogangreetings wrote...

The fact that the sticky is gone is proof enough for me

now it's just a matter of if it'll be fixed or if it'll be ignored

hopefully  fixed

[Ck213]

Doesn't really matter to me at the moment. I don't play past Shepard and Anderson on the Citadel.
If the new endings are worthwhile, then I guess I'll have to be concerned about it. I really hate the success of single player being influenced by multiplayer. I am not a mutiplayer gamer.

[Scarlet434]

I regret all the money I spent on this series, just to have it come down to Not being able to achieve a 5000+ EMS without MP.  Not everyone has internet and Gold accounts... this is a rude tactic to make money at the expense of the loyal RPG fans that initially made ME1 and  ME2 a success.
I will not spend any more of my hard earned money on Bioware RPG's that include MP, if they do not fix this for single player only fans.  Add more War assets or up the War readiness %.

[MsKlaussen]

kmatthews wrote...

bluewolv1970 wrote...

kmatthews wrote...

It really isn't that hard to get 4000EMS, & you don't have to go back & play ME1, the only thing that stopped me from getting 4000 is that Legion died in ME2 for my first playthrough (the one I imported) & I didn't betray Tali on her Loyalty mission to get her reinstated as an Admiral, so I didn't get the Quarian fleet. I never played ME1 so I have the default choices (Rachni queen dies, Wrex dies etc) so I also don't get Rachni support either, I sabotaged the genophage cure (Mordin dies anyway because I didn't have high enough Rep points but Eve lives), I supported Geth instead of Quarians, scan each cluster to get 100% in each, talk to citizens on Citadel to improve defense, & do the side quests.

you are full of it...there are no more than 3800 ems points available currently in SP that has been proven in the game files...stop lying

I'm not lying, do I have to go back through & record my playthrough for you to see? & if Bioware says that you can get the ending where Shepard lives on SP alone, why would they lie?

I don't remember any ardent call for multiplayer at any time during this series from legions of fans. Now however, anybody who wants the full content must at some point be counted in multiplayer login numbers. Numbers which in turn, don't make it clear that many of those logins were compulsory. In other words, ME3 multiplayer appears to be every bit as popular as COD or WOW now - instead of an utter waste of time, money, and resources

If all these unhappy people (whom some need to believe are a tiny minority but I doubt it) had known ahead of pre-orders that this game was crippled in any way without multiplayer, do you think Bioware would have sold the volume of copies they did, or that the uproar wouldn't have gotten going well in advance of the debut?

How hard does one try to debunk their own claims about multiplayer prior to release day based on those realities?

[BentOrgy]

kmatthews wrote...
I'm not lying,

Yes, you are.

do I have to go back through & record my playthrough for you to see?

Please do, I love a good laugh.

 & if Bioware says that you can get the ending where Shepard lives
on SP alone, why would they lie?

Because, evidently, that's fashionable at the moment. Its been proven a dozen times over that 4000 EMS  is impossible  without Multi-Player. I seriously can't believe that this is still an issue.

Modifié par BentOrgy, 09 avril 2012 - 09:30 .

[AlanC9]

kmatthews wrote...

Tietj wrote...

The things you missed will not even come close to getting you 4000. You need 1800 more TMS and the things you mentioned aren't worth that much by a long shot.

Whatever I'm done trying to discuss something with someone who keeps attacking me, but if I finish ME3 with 4000EMS you will be eating your words.

I look forward to seeing your save.

[Aganerral]

BentOrgy wrote...

 & if Bioware says that you can get the ending where Shepard lives
on SP alone, why would they lie?

Because, evidently, that's fashionable at the moment. Its been proven a dozen times over that 4000 EMS  is impossible  without Multi-Player. I seriously can't believe that this is still an issue.

Actually, in this case I don't think that they're lying  I think most likely causes are some combination of the following:

1) Jarrett Lee's sticky post really only meant the synthesis ending, which Bioware does seem to regard as best as it requires the highest EMS to make available.  Since this required 2800 EMS, there really are more than enough assets available to trigger that.   Why they made additional ending variants above that, I have no idea. 

2) Asset s, asset values, and/or the galactic readiness multiplier were added/removed/changed late in the process, and all relationships to those values weren't changed to account for it.  Maybe at one point readiness was base 100%, or some assets were worth much more than they are in the final version.  When this was changed, the ending trigger points were not updated.  It's also possible that this was just a bug that changed values.

3) Galactic readiness multiplier was changed at the last minute in a crass maneuver to drive multiplayer usage, likely pushed by EA.

Regardless of the cause, nothing excuses the lack of communication on the subject.  There have been multiple threads in multiple forums, none of which have gotten a resposne about the issue.  The most we have is the twitter update that one dev is looking at it within the next couple weeks.

[Tietj]

I agree with your second point and probably your first one, but I really believe that Lee originally did mean the breath ending was possible in single player, as I believe it was never their intention to deliberately mislead us. And several devs and mods since have said that 4000 EMS, specifically, was attainable.

[Tietj]

Curses, I mean that I agree with the second point and possibly the THIRD one, and I can't edit (or quote) on my phone. Sorry for the double post.