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[CG Drum]

Daramatis wrote...

lrrose wrote...

"..especially if the extended cut expands on the 4000+ ending."

This is the reason why I'm suddenly so concerned about this issue. Although I'm hoping that the Extended Cut increases the values of the assets (why are krogan footsoldiers more valuable than most fleets in a war that is being fought mostly in space?).

This is also why I'm concerned about it - after spending well over 100 hours playing, and enjoying it immensely, to find that the official guide and (now removed) official thread seems to be inaccurate - that Shepard can live if you make a certain decision and have over 4,000 EMS - is gauling, to say the least.

Setting aside the unprededented situation with the ending direction(s) (never before in my many years of gaming have I seen what is unfolding), the issue for me is:

I want Shepard to live,

Shepard CAN live - it has been catered for in-game, is already a "possible" outcome (doesn't require any re-writing),

I cannot reach it, by a hairs-breadth - after working so hard through all three games - saving everyone I could possibly save, surviving the suicide mission with my crew intact, making hard moral decisions, it comes down to game mechanics.

Then to find the endings will be clarified, more details provided to give flesh to the bones of the finale, to possibly rub salt into the wound knowing more of what I cannot reach, if this issue is not tackled, excellent, I'll feel even more deflated than first time around.

I don't want to pre-empt what the content will be, but unless this issue is identified and accepted to be an issue with SP, then nothing will be done to rectify it.

Anyone have any advice on what more I can do - where to send official enquiries?  I've never been in this situation before.

Many thanks.

Wish I could help  - but the emails I have sent to Bioware on this subject have gone unanswered so I've no idea where to go next.  That's why I came here.

You'd have thought that this thread would have been replied to... perhaps it's just a matter of time.   As I said before even an acknowledgement of this issue would be a start.

[Sanunes]

I am not sure how true it is, but I read on the Mass Effect wiki that the requirements for the endings are lowered if you don't blow up the Reaper at the end of Mass Effect 2.

[Dr_Extrem]

i bet, that the current endings do not represent the "real" ending of this story-arc.

the writers screwed the last 10 minutes on purpose - if they plan to make mass effect 4 or any related game playing after the reaper invasion, they need to have a backdoor to excuse an ending, that ist almost equal for all players.

otherwhise you can´t write a game, that supports the current posssible endings. plus, it s making it very difficult to produce an new mass effect game without shepard. this main character and his entourage are inextricably linked with the mass effect universe. any other character would stand in his/her shadow for ever. just look at "the warden" from dragon age. hawke was supposed to "outshine" the former mainchar - it did not work. how is it supposed to work with a character we lived for three games and has a hundred times more charisma than the warden?


lots of speculation.


on topic:

if you can not reach your 4000 point-marking, without resorting to mp, it is just cheap and cheasy

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 11 avril 2012 - 11:22 .

[Uccio]

Here is a question,

what is the point of going through the game and trying to get all these different awareness/war asset points if the game ends up the same with minimum or maximum effort?

Modifié par Ukki, 11 avril 2012 - 05:22 .

[bluewolv1970]

another week and no answer form Bioware - as Mordin would say "shocking"

[Alerithon]

I avoided spoilers as much as I could going into the game. After every big mission, I'd check the Galactic Readiness map, wondering when I'd get a mission that would affect it. SO much potential! Get a mission notice, and the more other missions you ran before tackling that mission, your GR for that sector goes down. Or, run the mission, and depending on how well or many of the objectives you meet, GR goes up OR down.

So many ways they could have incorporated it into the SP game, to really make it feel like you were engaged in a war against the Reapers.

I get right up to the point where I'm about to launch the final mission to retake Earth. I've seen the chatter on the ending issue, have some idea that people are unhappy. And still my GR sits at 50%. I think about how Bioware said that MP wouldn't impact the SP game, and I break my spoiler rule and dive into the boards.

I can't tell you how mad I was, and still am. I've sent 3 e-mails to Bioware, no response. I've looked to these boards, seeking some official response. It's been over a month since the game has come out, people from that first week were asking the question. Bioware's near total silence on the issue is unbelievable! The only answer I can think of is their legal staff has advised them that admitting that SP War Assets are unable to unlock all endings would basically make a false advertising suit an open and shut case, and so they just say nothing.

[Krogangreetings]

every time a new person posts in here it really brings back my intial feeling of anger they REALLY need to address this soon.

Funny thing was I saw a piece on Dragon Age 3 today with Bioware outlining their plans and I just couldn't get excited about it at all..... (bearing I mind I liked Dragon Age 2 bar the reusing of maps)

[lawp79]

@Alerithon there was a sticky post at the top of this forum from BW, it was all miss information though so after a period of roughly 2 or 3 weeks it was removed. There was another thread before this one which basically called out the sticky thread of being full of lies (which it basically was) a mod came into the thread said something to the effect of We are not lieing and the locked the thread.

[Alerithon]

Aye, @lawp79, I saw that before it was removed. Even edited, it really didn't say anything. The original post seemed to think that players were confusing War Assets with EMS. The edit then lamely claimed that the "best" ending was attainable. While admission by omission is not technically admitting anything, Bioware has spoken volumes with what they haven't said. I'm not sure what removing the post indicates.

Bioware's pattern of silence on this and other topics is unnerving. I see other publishers, in the video game world and elsewhere...comics, books, film...connecting more than ever in very personal and informative ways with their active community. Bioware seems to be turning away from that resource, preferring to go it alone.

[CG Drum]

So only just joined this ... and seriously Bioware had a thread that said it was possible, that they later deleted (as we know it isnt!) and now they are just ignoring the issue and hoping it will go away?! Great!

[Kub666]

Sanunes wrote...
I am not sure how true it is, but I read on the Mass Effect wiki that the requirements for the endings are lowered if you don't blow up the Reaper at the end of Mass Effect 2.

Why don't you use Google and find out how much EMS do you need for each ending?...

Let me help:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q...3 Endings Guide

You're welcome!

[Lalalandia]

I can understand folks who don't read all 35 pages of a forum thread but the last 3 isn't too much to ask is it? Someone has to post links to the WA guides every single page of these threads. It still doesn't add up to >4000 w/SP alone.

Still hoping we get a response for Thomas Abram et al

[Cratto]

Sanunes wrote...

I am not sure how true it is, but I read on the Mass Effect wiki that the requirements for the endings are lowered if you don't blow up the Reaper at the end of Mass Effect 2.

This could be quite confusing spoiler free.

But...

Saving the base lowers it for one of the endings, not all the endings. The 4000plus figure (8000 with the 50% penalty) relates one ending only as well. The two are mutually exclusive. However, if you prefer two of the choices you can easily get enough war assets with the penalty to get them anyway. But the third and final one is only available with the 4000plus figure.

Okay, I know all three endings are badly written and full of plot holes (and mirror another game I didn't like 12 years ago (though I'm in a minority with that game and the ending worked on that occasion).

But it is not possible to achieve all the possible endings without mp or single player games bought from apple.

[Krogangreetings]

Lalalandia wrote...

I can understand folks who don't read all 35 pages of a forum thread but the last 3 isn't too much to ask is it? Someone has to post links to the WA guides every single page of these threads. It still doesn't add up to >4000 w/SP alone.

Still hoping we get a response for Thomas Abram et al

how is that going by the way?

anyone been in contact with Thomas Abram or others since he said he'd look into it?

[AshenSugar]

Absolute completionist here, every single possible thing done in ME1, ME2 and ME3, every side mission, every scan, every collection quest, full Paragon, no stone unturned. Only thing I lacked was the fish.

Highest EMS I've ever manged to get is around 3640-ish. I've heard that if you take a few Renegade options in the previous games, mixing them with Paragon you can get a higher score, but never felt the desire to test this out.

I also believe that this is likely to be a deliberate ploy to get us to purchase paid-for DLC. No extra assets through DLC content - no best ending.

Modifié par AshenSugar, 11 avril 2012 - 06:20 .

[Krogangreetings]

AshenSugar wrote...

Absolute completionist here, every single possible thing done in ME1, ME2 and ME3, every side mission, every scan, every collection quest, full Paragon, no stone unturned. Only thing I lacked was the fish.

Highest EMS I've ever manged to get is around 3640-ish. I've heard that if you take a few Renegade options in the previous games, mixing them with Paragon you can get a higher score, but never felt the desire to test this out.

yup you can get higher with a mix of paragon and renegade across all 3 games but it's still not enough for over 4000

I feel bad for PS3 owners as they have no hope (having not got Mass Effect 1 or some relelated quest in 2)
equally for the new fans they tried so hard to get with entry I shouldn't think you could get anywhere near with a Mass Effect 3 only file (although they are probably more likely to play the god awful MP)

[AlanC9]

CG Drum wrote...

So only just joined this ... and seriously Bioware had a thread that said it was possible, that they later deleted (as we know it isnt!) and now they are just ignoring the issue and hoping it will go away?! Great!

In fairness, that Bio post seemed to refer to a different ending. It's pretty obvious that Bio doesn't consider the EMS 4000 ending to be optimal even if it does need the most points.

[Canned Bullets]

AlanC9 wrote...

CG Drum wrote...

So only just joined this ... and seriously Bioware had a thread that said it was possible, that they later deleted (as we know it isnt!) and now they are just ignoring the issue and hoping it will go away?! Great!

In fairness, that Bio post seemed to refer to a different ending. It's pretty obvious that Bio doesn't consider the EMS 4000 ending to be optimal even if it does need the most points.

That is just a cop-out. Just like Mac Walters saying the journey was more important than the destination.

[AlanC9]

Sure. I'm not saying that the statement wasn't a cop-out; just that it was also a true statement.

Edit: that's kind of redundant, come to think of it. The whole point of a cop-out is to not lie while doing it.

Modifié par AlanC9, 11 avril 2012 - 07:01 .

[CG Drum]

Canned Bullets wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

CG Drum wrote...

So only just joined this ... and seriously Bioware had a thread that said it was possible, that they later deleted (as we know it isnt!) and now they are just ignoring the issue and hoping it will go away?! Great!

In fairness, that Bio post seemed to refer to a different ending. It's pretty obvious that Bio doesn't consider the EMS 4000 ending to be optimal even if it does need the most points.

That is just a cop-out. Just like Mac Walters saying the journey was more important than the destination.

Yeah I agree that is a cop-out.  No one should be unable to reach all the endings - it should not be reliant on MP. 

We all purchased the game so why aren't we able to access it all?

I just don't understand the thinking behind this - and I really don't understand why Bioware would be surprised that SP players, who in most case have spent 100s of hours with there Shepard through all three games, would be upset by this.

So I guess Bioware we are just sat waiting for you guys to fix this for us! Please.

[Kub666]

AlanC9 wrote...

CG Drum wrote...

So only just joined this ... and seriously Bioware had a thread that said it was possible, that they later deleted (as we know it isnt!) and now they are just ignoring the issue and hoping it will go away?! Great!

In fairness, that Bio post seemed to refer to a different ending. It's pretty obvious that Bio doesn't consider the EMS 4000 ending to be optimal even if it does need the most points.

No, they have confirmed on their official twitter that they think 4k EMS is possible in SP. They did not say "best ending", they have specifically stated "4k EMS should be possible in SP". So they know about the issue, they have just chosen to ignore it.

[CG Drum]

Interesting - so they have stated that "4k EMS should be possible in SP" - makes you wonder why they don't just post how to do it all - that would solve all our problems.

[Krogangreetings]

yup said to me personally via Twitter

[Tietj]

Said to me in a private message on here, not that that's official or anything. But it is an indication of what they were thinking.

[Cratto]

Tietj wrote...

Said to me in a private message on here, not that that's official or anything. But it is an indication of what they were thinking.

Is this before or after the Lee posting was taken down? I got this answer too from Abram. But this predates the I'll look into it messages (which in turn came just before the thread was taken down).

Has there been an update since? If so, quite disappointing. If not, still holding on to my optimism.