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[Tietj]

It was a couple days before. A bunch of us pm'ed him around the same time. Haven't heard anything since, and I'm also holding out hope.

[bluewolv1970]

Cratto wrote...

Tietj wrote...

Said to me in a private message on here, not that that's official or anything. But it is an indication of what they were thinking.

Is this before or after the Lee posting was taken down? I got this answer too from Abram. But this predates the I'll look into it messages (which in turn came just before the thread was taken down).

Has there been an update since? If so, quite disappointing. If not, still holding on to my optimism.

NO

[digby69]

I've not managed

[Cratto]

Tietj wrote...

It was a couple days before. A bunch of us pm'ed him around the same time. Haven't heard anything since, and I'm also holding out hope.

Phew, my optimism remains intact...

...for now.

[Kunoichi2007]

I really hope they'll fix this really soon! If there's even a chance that Shepard can live and be reunited with his/her friends and LI, we deserve a fair chance at getting it.

I just hope with the Extended Cut they'll lower the required EMS for the "Shepard lives" ending. At least around 3500 EMS so those who did everything in singleplayer alone can achieve it like Bioware promised.

I don't care how they'll fix this issue, they better do it fast!

[AlanC9]

Kub666 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
In fairness, that Bio post seemed to refer to a different ending. It's pretty obvious that Bio doesn't consider the EMS 4000 ending to be optimal even if it does need the most points.

No, they have confirmed on their official twitter that they think 4k EMS is possible in SP. They did not say "best ending", they have specifically stated "4k EMS should be possible in SP". So they know about the issue, they have just chosen to ignore it.

Really? I didn't see it. What was the date?

[Krogangreetings]

6th April, they responded to me when I asked just after PAX

[Daramatis]

Krogangreetings wrote...

every time a new person posts in here it really brings back my intial feeling of anger they REALLY need to address this soon.

Funny thing was I saw a piece on Dragon Age 3 today with Bioware outlining their plans and I just couldn't get excited about it at all..... (bearing I mind I liked Dragon Age 2 bar the reusing of maps)

Hey there Krogangreetings.

Funny you should mention this about DA3, it also came to my attention - started seriously thinking about it for the first time and found myself feeling rather...empty - and I love Bioware games.  In the past I've pre-ordered Bioware games as soon as I could, but this time, for DA3, I'm really kind of feeling lethargic about it all.  I've had a few things happen with ME3:

My early Collectors Edition preorder from GAME (in the UK) was not honoured as EA wouldn't sell through them - had a mad rush one week before release to find another outlet to supply it.

My face wouldn't import

My Shepherd got "stuck" a couple of times in the scenery, so had to go back to previous save

I can't get an ending which exists, and which I've been told I should be able to get in SP alone.

Now, I installed the lastest patch and I find my xBox is freezing completely at the contacting EA server section, so can't play at all!

Sigh.

[Filanwizard]

Simple solution, have more N7 missions and have those increase readiness on completion.

[KenLyns]

You get the "good" ending cutscenes with EMS above 2500 or so, IIRC. Why does higher EMS matter? So you can see the "breathing" cutscene that may or may not be the end of a hallucination?

[Warbuckaz]

Habs25 wrote...

Excuse moi? I got 4000 EMS without MP or anything else besides the game itself. FISH! buy fish people

So on your're NG+ playthrough you achieved 4000 EMS by buying fish? Im going to assume that what you mean because first time around thats impossible

Modifié par Warbuckaz, 11 avril 2012 - 11:06 .

[LordMarrick]

on my first 100% run before i knew multiplayer helped with ems i had 5k tms and 4.2k ems

[Daramatis]

AlanC9 wrote...

Kub666 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
In fairness, that Bio post seemed to refer to a different ending. It's pretty obvious that Bio doesn't consider the EMS 4000 ending to be optimal even if it does need the most points.

No, they have confirmed on their official twitter that they think 4k EMS is possible in SP. They did not say "best ending", they have specifically stated "4k EMS should be possible in SP". So they know about the issue, they have just chosen to ignore it.

Really? I didn't see it. What was the date?

Sorry to intrude here, but regarding the post that used to be here but which has now gone, from memory I read it to be in line with the official Collectors Edition Guide.  It details two causal streams - one where the collector base is saved, the other where it is destroyed - with each stream consisting of eight ending possibilities in ascending order of Readiness (EMS) .  For both of these streams, there is a point break at 4,000 Readiness + a decision to allow Shepard to live, and then a further point break at 5,000 Readiness (EMS) where he lives - there is no difference to outcome re the collector base status at 4,000 or 5,000 Readines (EMS).

The guide states, "Readiness Rating determines the Effective Military Strength of all War Assets.  The lowest it can be is 50%.  A good method of raising this rating is through multiplayer, and Bioware will be providing additional methods to increase readiness outside of the game.  However, even at the lowest percentage possible, all endings are within reach if you do what you can to bring as many War Assets to the final battle."

At the time I read the Bioware post here I thought it stated the same thing, that 4,000 was achievable in SP alone.

If we cannot get to 4,000, how on earth is 5,000 achievable?

I do hope this is addressed in some manner.

[Warbuckaz]

A Great Biotic Wind wrote...

Olueq wrote...

DaewaNya wrote...

i got more than 5000 with a ME1+ME2 save, so yes.

Im sure you did.

I also got over 5000, so...

Reallly!!! dude ..Really over 5000? so you got in upwards of 10,000+  War Assets huh?

[Warbuckaz]

Tietj wrote...

It was a couple days before. A bunch of us pm'ed him around the same time. Haven't heard anything since, and I'm also holding out hope.

I second what Tietj said.

[Tietj]

Oh boy, the cycle continues.

@LordMarrick You're obviously confused about something. If you had a TMS score of 5000 and didn't play multiplayer or use the iPhone app, your EMS score would be 2500.

And @KenLyns That scene will ostensibly be expanded in the extended cut, so yes, that kind of matters to some of us. If it doesn't matter to you, don't participate in the discussion. This isn't a debate about what ending we like the best.

[Daramatis]

KenLyns wrote...

You get the "good" ending cutscenes with EMS above 2500 or so, IIRC. Why does higher EMS matter? So you can see the "breathing" cutscene that may or may not be the end of a hallucination?

2,800 EMS gives more options of endings, then it jumps to 4,000 or 5,000 for the "Living" ending, according to the guide.

The main point of all this for me is that I don't play MP, I'm not buying the optional games which will increase the 50%, and it has been stated that MP wouldn't affect the SP ability to get the 4,000 ending, when it seems apparent this isn't the case.

If my Shepard had to die then so-be-it, but the fact there is the possibility he is still alive and I should be able to achieve it, and I want to achieve it but can't because of some game mechanics, that's what's got me concerned about this.  Add on top of that the "clarification of the endings" due in summer, and that compounds the issue, for me.

And if this breath is the end of an hallucination, assuming for a moment that Indoctrination is the ending they were aiming for, and that Bioware were not intending clarification before the fans spoke out, then I, as a SP-only player, would never get that, because for me the end is red, blue or green death - final, no more.

So unfortunately the EMS does matter, whichever way we look at it.

[Warbuckaz]

This topic really gets my goat because all bioware has to admit to is that you need to follow there pre-defined path "to the letter" to get 4000 EMS. I would be fine doing MP so that I can make "my own" choices. I may not want to off Wrex. It really stinks overall but i could live with it.

[WhiteKnyght]

The truth behind truths.

Synthesis is the best ending. Not the destroy gasp.

To even have the option for synthesis, you apparently need to have your EMS high enough for the meter under the number to max out. And it maxes out a pretty good number before 4000.

When Bioware said you didn't need multiplayer to get the best ending, they weren't lying. Because they meant synthesis. Not 7 seconds that shows Shep taking a breath.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 11 avril 2012 - 11:38 .

[Tietj]

@The Grey Nayr: if you'd taken the time to read the last couple pages, you'd know that in several places, including the official Twitter feed, they specifically stated that it is possible to attain over 4000 EMS. Plus in the pre-release press they stated that ALL endings were achievable in single player. I guess I don't expect someone to read through an entire thirty plus page thread, but seriously, we JUST talked about that.

[Daramatis]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

The truth behind truths.

Synthesis is the best ending. Not the destroy gasp.

To even have the option for synthesis, you apparently need to have your EMS high enough for the meter under the number to max out. And it maxes out a pretty good number before 4000.

When Bioware said you didn't need multiplayer to get the best ending, they weren't lying. Because they meant synthesis. Not 7 seconds that shows Shep taking a breath.

Synthesis is available at 2,800 EMS.  But is it the "best" ending - subjective I'd suggest.

The point isn't about the "best" ending, but achieving all possible endings actually within the current game as it stands, in SP alone, with no change to the 50% Readiness Rating.

[WhiteKnyght]

Daramatis wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

The truth behind truths.

Synthesis is the best ending. Not the destroy gasp.

To even have the option for synthesis, you apparently need to have your EMS high enough for the meter under the number to max out. And it maxes out a pretty good number before 4000.

When Bioware said you didn't need multiplayer to get the best ending, they weren't lying. Because they meant synthesis. Not 7 seconds that shows Shep taking a breath.

Synthesis is available at 2,800 EMS.  But is it the "best" ending - subjective I'd suggest.

The point isn't about the "best" ending, but achieving all possible endings actually within the current game as it stands, in SP alone, with no change to the 50% Readiness Rating.

To be fair, a seven second shot of the Commander taking a breath of air
that is slapped onto the best outcome for destroy(which you can achieve
without multiplayer,) is hardly enough to constitute it being an ending
all in itself.

The Mass Relays being destroyed is a consistent in every ending. But to point this out.

Destroy does give Shepard a chance at survival, but means destroying the Geth, your friends/allies. Legion would turn in his grave. Not to mention it sets the Quarian recovery back decades wheras the Geth would have them not needing suits in a few years.

Control kills Shepard and enslaves the Reapers and makes them leave the galaxy. Better than destroy, but still leaves the galaxy in a hard spot as there wont be any Reaper tech to study and make improvments to standard tech with(Like Sovereign's gun became the base for the Thanix.)

Synthesis also kills Shepard, but brings all organics and synthetics to the apex of existence. Allowing them the possibility to achieve much greater scientific and technological developments than ever before. And the Reapers wont need to do the cycle anymore because synthetics will no longer pose a danger.

Some possibilities:

Since Joker is now partly synthetic, he may not have Vrolik's Syndrome anymore.

Since EDI is now partly organic, she and Joker may be able to reproduce.

Since everyone is partly synthetic, diseases may no longer be fatal as germs cant hurt anything technical. And their total lifespans have likely been lengthened.

Since all synthetics are partly organic, they have successfully achieved what they desire. To have a future of their own and be equals with organics.

Since everyone is now partly synthetic, the level of intelligence of the races is significantly heightened. They will arguably have sensory abilities surpassing the Protheans(Javik says everything has its own biomarker. And with evolution/advancement, comes the ability to harness that) and probably have other talents that we did not get to see in the Mass Effect series.

There is obviously more to the synthesis than giving everyone green circuits and glowing eyes.

Also no matter what your EMS, Synthesis has no negative effects whatsoever other than the destruction of the Citadel and Mass Relays. While destroy and control can ravage the galaxy if too low.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 12 avril 2012 - 12:33 .

[KBomb]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

The truth behind truths.

Synthesis is the best ending. Not the destroy gasp.

To even have the option for synthesis, you apparently need to have your EMS high enough for the meter under the number to max out. And it maxes out a pretty good number before 4000.

When Bioware said you didn't need multiplayer to get the best ending, they weren't lying. Because they meant synthesis. Not 7 seconds that shows Shep taking a breath.

 

The truths behind truth?

Yeah, it's pretty obvious what Bioware thinks is the best ending. Personally, I think the Synthesis Ending would be as horrible as the other two. That's neither here nor there. It's a subjective truth.
I can tell you what isn't a subjective truth. Bioware stated many times that multiplayer would not "wall" you off from anything in single player. Over and over in many interviews they have claimed that by simply being a completionist, you won't miss any content. They have stated over and over that mulitplayer is an alternative way to obtain EMS points and that you will be able to gain the same amount in single player. They stated that MP is completely optional.

Those who refuse to play Mass Effect 3's multiplayer will find there is nothing "walled off" from the single-player campaign, BioWare has insisted.

Source

Most importantly, the new multiplayer mode doesn’t take away anything from the single-player experience and it’s 100% optional. Should for some strange reason, you never want to enjoy the Mass Effect universe with friends, you don’t have too. It just adds another way to experience the game.

Source
There are many more quotes I can share, not only from Flynn, but from Hudson himself saying how MP is optional and an alternative and no content will be skipped.

Whether you want to see Deep Breath or not is moot. The fact that it is content in SP that can only be achieved by playing MP makes everything they’ve said about it a mistruth and should be--and is for most--the point of contention.

Modifié par KBomb, 12 avril 2012 - 12:56 .

[Tietj]

This thread isn't really about which ending is best. And as we JUST SAID, the Breath ending will probably be expanded in the extended cut. But regardless, the title of the thread asks if it is really possible to get 4000 EMS in single player, as it has been stated by Bioware that it is possible. It is not. I don't personally care what the merits are of any particular ending.

[KBomb]

Tietj wrote...

This thread isn't really about which ending is best. And as we JUST SAID, the Breath ending will probably be expanded in the extended cut. But regardless, the title of the thread asks if it is really possible to get 4000 EMS in single player, as it has been stated by Bioware that it is possible. It is not. I don't personally care what the merits are of any particular ending.

And this.