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[Tietj]

@KBomb I would quote you too if I had the capability to do that on my phone. Isn't it tiresome to have to keep refuting the same arguments over and over? I wish they would just address this. If only to save us from having to type in the same thing a thousand more times.

And no, person who posts three pages hence, you did not get 7500 EMS without playing multiplayer or the app.

[Warbuckaz]

I want to also mention that whoever claims to achieve 10,000+ War Assets please indicate whether or not it was on NG+ or first playthrough.

[Tietj]

As far as I can tell, having played a New Game + and a New Game ++ (and collecting the fish and model ships in both), there are no differences in the EMS score attainable. I didn't notice any extra assets.

[CVert77]

Looking through a coalesced.bin and removing *all* negative modifiers (and Geth Heretic Modifiers as these cancel each other out) and some mutually exclusive choices I could think of, I come up with a theoretical max of 7985 with a perfect run through of all 3 games (I find it had to believe anyone would get the GAWAsset_NeverPunchedReporter modifier though)

OK I turned on 2 negative modifiers that lead to bigger positive ones

Modifié par CVert77, 12 avril 2012 - 03:53 .

[CG Drum]

As has already been stated here this isn't about what Bioware see as being the best ending, it is about the fact that they stated that all endings were possible in SP without playing MP and they quite clearly are not.

Personally I would just like someone from Bioware to just acknowledge this fact and to sort it out for us.

It doesn't seem like rocket science... slightly upping the GR for SP players would do it, I didn't buy this game for MP and can't play MP so to try and railroad people into it is staggering to me. It is meant to be a choice if I play it - not something I have to do if I want to access all parts of the SP game.

I think what annoys me most is that someone playing just the third game could get 4000 war assests and play MP get their GR up to 100% and get all endings. But someone else who has bought and paid all three games and can't play MP can't.

[CmndrFisher]

CG Drum wrote...

As has already been stated here this isn't about what Bioware see as being the best ending, it is about the fact that they stated that all endings were possible in SP without playing MP and they quite clearly are not.

Personally I would just like someone from Bioware to just acknowledge this fact and to sort it out for us.

It doesn't seem like rocket science... slightly upping the GR for SP players would do it, I didn't buy this game for MP and can't play MP so to try and railroad people into it is staggering to me. It is meant to be a choice if I play it - not something I have to do if I want to access all parts of the SP game.

I think what annoys me most is that someone playing just the third game could get 4000 war assests and play MP get their GR up to 100% and get all endings. But someone else who has bought and paid all three games and can't play MP can't.

^THIS!!...of all the things that have saddened me about ME3, Bioware/EA's catering to the Multiplayer crowd , IMO., is the worst.  I've never played MP because it's not to my liking and to have this crap affecting my gameplay is disgusting.  Someone in another thread asked if ME3 is the last Bioware game they will ever purchase, well, to me yes it is.  They have done a great diservice to the single player crowd.  SHAME ON YOU BIOWARE!

[Kuari999]

How much can the ME2 resources give you max? Maybe that's how some people did it?

[Arsenic Touch]

Kuari999 wrote...

How much can the ME2 resources give you max? Maybe that's how some people did it?

Did you not read the thread? it's been said numerous times. The file has been datamined, there are not enough assets period. Even with an imported completionist character straight from mass effect 1. The only people that managed 4k or higher EMS either used the third party app, altered their file or have bugged asset values.

[Kuari999]

Arsenic Touch wrote...

Kuari999 wrote...

How much can the ME2 resources give you max? Maybe that's how some people did it?

Did you not read the thread? it's been said numerous times. The file has been datamined, there are not enough assets period. Even with an imported completionist character straight from mass effect 1. The only people that managed 4k or higher EMS either used the third party app, altered their file or have bugged asset values.

37 pages is a lot to look through for one answer that can be gotten quicker by asking.  So do you know it or not?  Would have been quicker to type the answer rather than all that if you do.

[devSin]

Kuari999 wrote...

How much can the ME2 resources give you max? Maybe that's how some people did it?

100. But it's either bugged beyond belief, or we have no idea how it works.

The values are supposed to be either 10, 25, or 100, depending on the resource totals you import with. But we can have two people with identical totals who get different asset amounts (one will get 25, while the other gets 100), and some who have totals over a million who don't consistently get 100.

In any case, all this is already accounted for. There's no hidden assets or overlooked combination; you cannot acquire 8,000 total assets in the game (unless you promote a bunch of multiplayer characters), so to get 4,000 or more EMS, you need to play multiplayer or use the iOS apps.

Modifié par devSin, 12 avril 2012 - 07:58 .

[DukeOfNukes]

I believe the max number for Total Military Strength that we figured out was somewhere between 7500 and 7600.

This means that the BEST you can do without the iOS app or MP is less than 3800...and you need 4000 in order to get the "breathe" scene.

[Tsagaris]

 My best EMS with doing all the things I could with a character from ME1, ME2 doing both games twice (one normal mode, one Insanity) game me 3577 EMS and I know i lost 90 points from the mineral import bug.

[Krogangreetings]

Daramatis wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

every time a new person posts in here it really brings back my intial feeling of anger they REALLY need to address this soon.

Funny thing was I saw a piece on Dragon Age 3 today with Bioware outlining their plans and I just couldn't get excited about it at all..... (bearing I mind I liked Dragon Age 2 bar the reusing of maps)

Hey there Krogangreetings.

Funny you should mention this about DA3, it also came to my attention - started seriously thinking about it for the first time and found myself feeling rather...empty - and I love Bioware games.  In the past I've pre-ordered Bioware games as soon as I could, but this time, for DA3, I'm really kind of feeling lethargic about it all.  I've had a few things happen with ME3:

My early Collectors Edition preorder from GAME (in the UK) was not honoured as EA wouldn't sell through them - had a mad rush one week before release to find another outlet to supply it.

My face wouldn't import

My Shepherd got "stuck" a couple of times in the scenery, so had to go back to previous save

I can't get an ending which exists, and which I've been told I should be able to get in SP alone.

Now, I installed the lastest patch and I find my xBox is freezing completely at the contacting EA server section, so can't play at all!

Sigh.

what more can you say? sigh indeed

Bioware went from my favourite company to one I don't really care about anymore, they seem to have managed to mess up every step of the way, such a shame

[Lalalandia]

These threads are like the Augean stables, every time it adds a page someone comes in to drop a load of 'I played SP and got 10 bazillion EMS on my first play through' or 'You need NG+ and FIIISSSHHH' and then someone has to shovel it out again.

Gotta feel for the Xbox 360 players though how badly has the new patch screwed them?

[Benny8484]

I don't know if Bioware can/will respond on this matter.  If it comes out true that it is impossible to get the best ending in SP without MP, they could have real legal issues on their hands.

[Krogangreetings]

Benny8484 wrote...

I don't know if Bioware can/will respond on this matter.  If it comes out true that it is impossible to get the best ending in SP without MP, they could have real legal issues on their hands.

I don't think it'd be that bad if they said it was a bug or whatever and then fix it

but seeing the patch yesterday not sure if want

[AlanC9]

Benny8484 wrote...

I don't know if Bioware can/will respond on this matter.  If it comes out true that it is impossible to get the best ending in SP without MP, they could have real legal issues on their hands.

Nah. They can always say it was a bug.

[Krogangreetings]

I hereby waive my right to sue EA over EMS if they fix it

[Lalalandia]

I too waive that right if they fix this! Of course given the cost of doing anything in the 'Four Goldmines' here in Ireland it was a pretty hollow threat to begin with.....

[Daramatis]

Krogangreetings wrote...

Daramatis wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

every time a new person posts in here it really brings back my intial feeling of anger they REALLY need to address this soon.

Funny thing was I saw a piece on Dragon Age 3 today with Bioware outlining their plans and I just couldn't get excited about it at all..... (bearing I mind I liked Dragon Age 2 bar the reusing of maps)

Hey there Krogangreetings.

Funny you should mention this about DA3, it also came to my attention - started seriously thinking about it for the first time and found myself feeling rather...empty - and I love Bioware games.  In the past I've pre-ordered Bioware games as soon as I could, but this time, for DA3, I'm really kind of feeling lethargic about it all.  I've had a few things happen with ME3:

My early Collectors Edition preorder from GAME (in the UK) was not honoured as EA wouldn't sell through them - had a mad rush one week before release to find another outlet to supply it.

My face wouldn't import

My Shepherd got "stuck" a couple of times in the scenery, so had to go back to previous save

I can't get an ending which exists, and which I've been told I should be able to get in SP alone.

Now, I installed the lastest patch and I find my xBox is freezing completely at the contacting EA server section, so can't play at all!

Sigh.

what more can you say? sigh indeed

Bioware went from my favourite company to one I don't really care about anymore, they seem to have managed to mess up every step of the way, such a shame

It is a real shame - when I think back on the many play-throughs of the Baldur's Gate series (brilliant ending!), KOTOR 1 and 2, Jade Empire, Dragon Age etc, I can't help but smile at the memories of the experiences, the depth of detail, the amazing amazing characters and brilliant dialogue.  Friends and I just have to say such things as "Go for the eyes Boo!" and we instantly reminisce about the "good old days".

That's powerful game design and implementation.

I've never before had this bad an experience with any game from any developer, it's even more disheartening to get this from Bioware.  It's typical it happens at the finale of an otherwise excellent trilogy!

Sigh

Oh, and another thing that annoys me is my inability to spell Shepard correctly!!!

[Krogangreetings]

Daramatis wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

Daramatis wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

every time a new person posts in here it really brings back my intial feeling of anger they REALLY need to address this soon.

Funny thing was I saw a piece on Dragon Age 3 today with Bioware outlining their plans and I just couldn't get excited about it at all..... (bearing I mind I liked Dragon Age 2 bar the reusing of maps)

Hey there Krogangreetings.

Funny you should mention this about DA3, it also came to my attention - started seriously thinking about it for the first time and found myself feeling rather...empty - and I love Bioware games.  In the past I've pre-ordered Bioware games as soon as I could, but this time, for DA3, I'm really kind of feeling lethargic about it all.  I've had a few things happen with ME3:

My early Collectors Edition preorder from GAME (in the UK) was not honoured as EA wouldn't sell through them - had a mad rush one week before release to find another outlet to supply it.

My face wouldn't import

My Shepherd got "stuck" a couple of times in the scenery, so had to go back to previous save

I can't get an ending which exists, and which I've been told I should be able to get in SP alone.

Now, I installed the lastest patch and I find my xBox is freezing completely at the contacting EA server section, so can't play at all!

Sigh.

what more can you say? sigh indeed

Bioware went from my favourite company to one I don't really care about anymore, they seem to have managed to mess up every step of the way, such a shame

It is a real shame - when I think back on the many play-throughs of the Baldur's Gate series (brilliant ending!), KOTOR 1 and 2, Jade Empire, Dragon Age etc, I can't help but smile at the memories of the experiences, the depth of detail, the amazing amazing characters and brilliant dialogue.  Friends and I just have to say such things as "Go for the eyes Boo!" and we instantly reminisce about the "good old days".

That's powerful game design and implementation.

I've never before had this bad an experience with any game from any developer, it's even more disheartening to get this from Bioware.  It's typical it happens at the finale of an otherwise excellent trilogy!

Sigh

Oh, and another thing that annoys me is my inability to spell Shepard correctly!!!

Took the words out of my mouth, exactly how I feel

yup sigh

p.s Shepard also gave me spelling troubles when I was writing my review for Mass Effect 3 it fells like it should be Shepherd

[Daramatis]

CG Drum wrote...

As has already been stated here this isn't about what Bioware see as being the best ending, it is about the fact that they stated that all endings were possible in SP without playing MP and they quite clearly are not.

Personally I would just like someone from Bioware to just acknowledge this fact and to sort it out for us.

It doesn't seem like rocket science... slightly upping the GR for SP players would do it, I didn't buy this game for MP and can't play MP so to try and railroad people into it is staggering to me. It is meant to be a choice if I play it - not something I have to do if I want to access all parts of the SP game.

I think what annoys me most is that someone playing just the third game could get 4000 war assests and play MP get their GR up to 100% and get all endings. But someone else who has bought and paid all three games and can't play MP can't.

Hey there CG, I hadn't considered your last point before; someone buying the 3rd game and being able to access all endings whereas we happy few who have paid-our-dues through all three, and all the DLC, cannot quite get there!  Damnation, that gives rise to a bigger *sigh* than before!

Of course, when the MP servers are inevitably closed at some point in the future, we'll all be in the same boat!

I'm also with you resenting the implication that MP is the way we have to go - I'm just not a MP gamer - my style of play isn't suited to that medium - I don't buy MP games for that reason.  I don't mind the addition of MP in ME3, but I don't want to be compelled to play it.

[CG Drum]

Daramatis wrote...

CG Drum wrote...

As has already been stated here this isn't about what Bioware see as being the best ending, it is about the fact that they stated that all endings were possible in SP without playing MP and they quite clearly are not.

Personally I would just like someone from Bioware to just acknowledge this fact and to sort it out for us.

It doesn't seem like rocket science... slightly upping the GR for SP players would do it, I didn't buy this game for MP and can't play MP so to try and railroad people into it is staggering to me. It is meant to be a choice if I play it - not something I have to do if I want to access all parts of the SP game.

I think what annoys me most is that someone playing just the third game could get 4000 war assests and play MP get their GR up to 100% and get all endings. But someone else who has bought and paid all three games and can't play MP can't.

Hey there CG, I hadn't considered your last point before; someone buying the 3rd game and being able to access all endings whereas we happy few who have paid-our-dues through all three, and all the DLC, cannot quite get there!  Damnation, that gives rise to a bigger *sigh* than before!

Of course, when the MP servers are inevitably closed at some point in the future, we'll all be in the same boat!

I'm also with you resenting the implication that MP is the way we have to go - I'm just not a MP gamer - my style of play isn't suited to that medium - I don't buy MP games for that reason.  I don't mind the addition of MP in ME3, but I don't want to be compelled to play it.

Sorry didn't mean to make your "sigh" bigger!

I'm with you on the MP - not my thing at all, don't mind it being included as long as it doesn't impact on the SP game but have no interest in it at all.

[Daramatis]

Krogangreetings wrote...

Daramatis wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

Daramatis wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

every time a new person posts in here it really brings back my intial feeling of anger they REALLY need to address this soon.

Funny thing was I saw a piece on Dragon Age 3 today with Bioware outlining their plans and I just couldn't get excited about it at all..... (bearing I mind I liked Dragon Age 2 bar the reusing of maps)

Hey there Krogangreetings.

Funny you should mention this about DA3, it also came to my attention - started seriously thinking about it for the first time and found myself feeling rather...empty - and I love Bioware games.  In the past I've pre-ordered Bioware games as soon as I could, but this time, for DA3, I'm really kind of feeling lethargic about it all.  I've had a few things happen with ME3:

My early Collectors Edition preorder from GAME (in the UK) was not honoured as EA wouldn't sell through them - had a mad rush one week before release to find another outlet to supply it.

My face wouldn't import

My Shepherd got "stuck" a couple of times in the scenery, so had to go back to previous save

I can't get an ending which exists, and which I've been told I should be able to get in SP alone.

Now, I installed the lastest patch and I find my xBox is freezing completely at the contacting EA server section, so can't play at all!

Sigh.

what more can you say? sigh indeed

Bioware went from my favourite company to one I don't really care about anymore, they seem to have managed to mess up every step of the way, such a shame

It is a real shame - when I think back on the many play-throughs of the Baldur's Gate series (brilliant ending!), KOTOR 1 and 2, Jade Empire, Dragon Age etc, I can't help but smile at the memories of the experiences, the depth of detail, the amazing amazing characters and brilliant dialogue.  Friends and I just have to say such things as "Go for the eyes Boo!" and we instantly reminisce about the "good old days".

That's powerful game design and implementation.

I've never before had this bad an experience with any game from any developer, it's even more disheartening to get this from Bioware.  It's typical it happens at the finale of an otherwise excellent trilogy!

Sigh

Oh, and another thing that annoys me is my inability to spell Shepard correctly!!!

Took the words out of my mouth, exactly how I feel

yup sigh

p.s Shepard also gave me spelling troubles when I was writing my review for Mass Effect 3 it fells like it should be Shepherd

Good to know I'm not the only one who's had the "Shepard/Shepherd" issue.



I truly feel sorry for Bioware, the people on the ground who poured their hearts and souls into the game (I do think it shows through that this is the case through most of the game), I get the impression there are mundane management issues that have lead to the current state of affairs, and that's a horrible thing to have happened.  How must those folk who contributed to the Genophage section feel, for example?  Mordin's action is one of the most emotional things I've encountered in a game.

One thing I have learned with all of this is to be more careful which games I purchase.  My days of blindly pre-ordering are over.  In the current economic climate my pockets are unfortunately not as deep as they once were, so inevitably I'll have to be more careful about game purchase choice; now Bioware will have to compete with the others for my £ where before they were top of my priority list.

Is this what EA wants?  (Rhetorical question as I've strayed waaay off topic).