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[Cratto]

Okay I got a response. I can't post full response as it contains spoilers. But Thomas Abram said he'd not had a chane to look into things in detail yet (understandable). He repeated that he got 5000 on SP, but you need to do a specific thing and already have 4000 (which he repeated was achievable) to get assets which take you over 5000. unfortunately, 4000 doesn't appear possible in the game we own!

[Kub666]

Cratto wrote...

Okay I got a response. I can't post full response as it contains spoilers. But Thomas Abram said he'd not had a chane to look into things in detail yet (understandable). He repeated that he got 5000 on SP, but you need to do a specific thing and already have 4000 (which he repeated was achievable) to get assets which take you over 5000. unfortunately, 4000 doesn't appear possible in the game we own!

Wow, that does not bode well if even Bioware guys have no idea about the game they themselves produced.

[Warbuckaz]

Personally, I achieved 7100+ TMS so thats 3550 at 50% readiness. So I need to locate 450 more assets. I can probably scrape together 100 assets from bad argument decisions +1000 for this final decision (which I didnt really want to mention without any proof).  In anycase If there were more than enough assets in SP as Bioware says I wouldnt be hunting for assets. This leads me to really think the best ending is the renegade ending........ I feel really bad for PS3 folks not being able to import ME1 saves. 

Modifié par Warbuckaz, 12 avril 2012 - 10:28 .

[Tietj]

Sucks for us PS3 players, yes. That's something I asked Abram about, he said he wasn't sure but "assumed" it was possible to get the 4000 on the PS3.

[Warbuckaz]

I'm going to also try and leave some folks behind considering I didnt use them anyway. I'll probably end up with 3900+ EMS and pull my hair out lol

[tbb033]

They really need to make a patch that gets rid of the 50% thing. Just imagine in a year or two, when they shut down the ME3 servers, then even people who can play MP won't be able to raise their EMS high enough.

[paul165]

Warbuckaz wrote...

Personally, I achieved 7100+ TMS so thats 3550 at 50% readiness. So I need to locate 450 more assets. I can probably scrape together 100 assets from bad argument decisions +1000 for this final decision (which I didnt really want to mention without any proof).  In anycase If there were more than enough assets in SP as Bioware says I wouldnt be hunting for assets. This leads me to really think the best ending is the renegade ending........ I feel really bad for PS3 folks not being able to import ME1 saves. 

Except given the 50% multiplier you actually need to locate 900 - good hunting I think you'll need it.

[Cratto]

Warbuckaz wrote...

Personally, I achieved 7100+ TMS so thats 3550 at 50% readiness. So I need to locate 450 more assets. I can probably scrape together 100 assets from bad argument decisions +1000 for this final decision (which I didnt really want to mention without any proof).  In anycase If there were more than enough assets in SP as Bioware says I wouldnt be hunting for assets. This leads me to really think the best ending is the renegade ending........ I feel really bad for PS3 folks not being able to import ME1 saves. 

This is where I'm at. I just can't find an extra 900 assets which would take me to 8000 (4000) which would then make available the extra bonus. I don't why they didn't make the 1000 available to all who succeed and not just those who get to 8000 / 4000. It's quite difficult to do, but then everyone would be able to achieve it.

Damn. Should've asked this. Cause it's a double punishment for SPs.

[Aganerral]

Cratto wrote...

Okay I got a response. I can't post full response as it contains spoilers. But Thomas Abram said he'd not had a chane to look into things in detail yet (understandable). He repeated that he got 5000 on SP, but you need to do a specific thing and already have 4000 (which he repeated was achievable) to get assets which take you over 5000. unfortunately, 4000 doesn't appear possible in the game we own!

The extra 1000 specific thing is known and is part of the end sequence.  People in this thread take this into account when saying they want to get to 4000 EMS.  4000  EMS + the 1 thing = the extra content scene that is being discussed.

Incidentally, given that it occurs in the end sequence when we can't see our EMS numbers, we never actually see the number after that.

I would love to see his details on how to get 4000.  Even if he's somehow right and the data minign team is wrong, if you have to do every quest and DLC and perfectly min/max throughout all 3 games and it gets you to exactly 4k, I still say it's screwed up that someone can just half ass through, play MP, and get to 4000.  There should be enough assets in game for completionists to get to ~5000 EMS in single player only, before starting the final mission.  That would allow people to miss some here and there, but not skip anything major.

[bluewolv1970]

So in other words we are back to square one, which is we cannot get to 4000 and Bioware is doing nothing about it...

[Bill Casey]

ManualReplica wrote...

50% effectiveness = ½ of total EMS

No, EMS is the score after you halve it...
It stands for Effective Military Strength...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 12 avril 2012 - 10:53 .

[Bill Casey]

Some of the War Assets are also glitched, and unattainable to us...
"Salarian Special Task Group" is unattainable, commending Captain Riley at the Spectre terminal does nothing, and the Prothean Obelisk gives you no war assett...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 12 avril 2012 - 11:00 .

[Krogangreetings]

Really goes against the freedom of choice part of the series

there should be enough assets to counter any choices you made

[Kelarq]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

So in other words we are back to square one, which is we cannot get to 4000 and Bioware is doing nothing about it...

Oh, they'll do something about it. 

They'll give us extra war assets in dlc. Which we'll all buy. Obviously. <_<

[Cratto]

Aganerral wrote...

The extra 1000 specific thing is known and is part of the end sequence.  People in this thread take this into account when saying they want to get to 4000 EMS.  4000  EMS + the 1 thing = the extra content scene that is being discussed.

Incidentally, given that it occurs in the end sequence when we can't see our EMS numbers, we never actually see the number after that.

I would love to see his details on how to get 4000.  Even if he's somehow right and the data minign team is wrong, if you have to do every quest and DLC and perfectly min/max throughout all 3 games and it gets you to exactly 4k, I still say it's screwed up that someone can just half ass through, play MP, and get to 4000.  There should be enough assets in game for completionists to get to ~5000 EMS in single player only, before starting the final mission.  That would allow people to miss some here and there, but not skip anything major.

Very true.

And if you go by the game guide. If complete the task to that nets you the supposed bonus and choose the right ending you don't to get 5000 to get the ending we are after only 4000. Though the guide does suck in places

[Gatt9]

Aganerral wrote...

Cratto wrote...

Okay I got a response. I can't post full response as it contains spoilers. But Thomas Abram said he'd not had a chane to look into things in detail yet (understandable). He repeated that he got 5000 on SP, but you need to do a specific thing and already have 4000 (which he repeated was achievable) to get assets which take you over 5000. unfortunately, 4000 doesn't appear possible in the game we own!

The extra 1000 specific thing is known and is part of the end sequence.  People in this thread take this into account when saying they want to get to 4000 EMS.  4000  EMS + the 1 thing = the extra content scene that is being discussed.

Incidentally, given that it occurs in the end sequence when we can't see our EMS numbers, we never actually see the number after that.

I would love to see his details on how to get 4000.  Even if he's somehow right and the data minign team is wrong, if you have to do every quest and DLC and perfectly min/max throughout all 3 games and it gets you to exactly 4k, I still say it's screwed up that someone can just half ass through, play MP, and get to 4000.  There should be enough assets in game for completionists to get to ~5000 EMS in single player only, before starting the final mission.  That would allow people to miss some here and there, but not skip anything major.

That would still make Bioware's various statements false.  They stated repeatedly that there was more than enough war assets,  that's "Just enough".

I strongly suspect the reason why Bioware is confused is because someone fairly high up changed the values just prior to the final build,  quite possibly in their own branch,  and Bioware's still building from the mainline where the changes may not exist.

Keep in mind,  the whole point of Multiplayer is to sell Online Passes,  I've been predicting since we learned about it that EA would make sure you couldn't bypass MP if you wanted the optimal ending.

[Rhyalus]

Hmmmm, I don't mean to start a war up or anything, but I didn't like scanning planets in ME2, but I did it because that is what the game required for me to gain assets and money, etc.

Play a round or 2 of MP (I never used a mic yet), and you can get over the bloody 4000.

What a crazy thread...

R

[SerraAdvocate]

Rhyalus wrote...

Hmmmm, I don't mean to start a war up or anything, but I didn't like scanning planets in ME2, but I did it because that is what the game required for me to gain assets and money, etc.

Play a round or 2 of MP (I never used a mic yet), and you can get over the bloody 4000.

What a crazy thread...

R

The issue is that Bioware promised their long-time fanbase that they wouldn't be railroaded into playing multiplayer if they weren't interested. Unfortunately, at the moment that same fanbase has to play multiplayer if they want the best endings.

[Tietj]

@Rhyalus Every few pages someone like you decides to chime in. So I'll say what we always say. Some of us (like myself) don't have a strong enough connection for multiplayer. Some others don't have a Gold account. So really, you're not saying anything particularly new or interesting.

[bluewolv1970]

Rhyalus wrote...

Hmmmm, I don't mean to start a war up or anything, but I didn't like scanning planets in ME2, but I did it because that is what the game required for me to gain assets and money, etc.

Play a round or 2 of MP (I never used a mic yet), and you can get over the bloody 4000.

What a crazy thread...

R

hey genius - not everyone has internet hooked up to their console or and  XBOX gold account - 

[Jvolikas]

apologies if already asked but I didnt want to read 40 pages of the thread.

I know before that some people claimed getting over 4000 EMS without playing MP. Has any screenshots to confirm this ever appeared? I played full Paragon and only got around 7200 total assets, so roughly 3600 EMS. Just wondering.

[Krogangreetings]

Rhyalus wrote...

Hmmmm, I don't mean to start a war up or anything, but I didn't like scanning planets in ME2, but I did it because that is what the game required for me to gain assets and money, etc.

Play a round or 2 of MP (I never used a mic yet), and you can get over the bloody 4000.

What a crazy thread...

R

ok assume we do, some of us cannot play online at all (I can I just choose not to)

we play online we get our 4k wooo!

fast forward a year or 2 EA pulls the plug on the servers and now you are in the same boat as us no one can get the ending anymore what shall we do then?

an also as mentioned just now we have been told it is not required, had they said from the off that MP was required for the best ending I wouldn't have bought Mass Effect 3

[Tietj]

No, nobody has proven that they can get over 4000 in single player alone. A few people had bugged assets, other than that, no.

[IanPolaris]

Jvolikas wrote...

apologies if already asked but I didnt want to read 40 pages of the thread.

I know before that some people claimed getting over 4000 EMS without playing MP. Has any screenshots to confirm this ever appeared? I played full Paragon and only got around 7200 total assets, so roughly 3600 EMS. Just wondering.

The Coalesced.bin file (which has all the War Asset values and conditionals) has been completely datamined.  It is NOT possible to get 8000 (let alone 10,000) Total War Assets (which would be required to get 4000 EMS for SP alone) without altering your game.  If Bioware says otherwise, they are lying.  If I am to be banned for such a statement so be it.  It's just a fact.

-Polaris