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Can you REALLY get 4000+ EMS points without Multiplayer?


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Jvolikas wrote...

apologies if already asked but I didnt want to read 40 pages of the thread.

I know before that some people claimed getting over 4000 EMS without playing MP. Has any screenshots to confirm this ever appeared? I played full Paragon and only got around 7200 total assets, so roughly 3600 EMS. Just wondering.


Some have but they have values exactly double of the max you can get so obviously hacked

most tend to go away when asked for proof

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Well, to be fair, a lot of them are just legitimately confused, and apologize when their error is pointed out. It is a confusing system.

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Tietj wrote...

Well, to be fair, a lot of them are just legitimately confused, and apologize when their error is pointed out. It is a confusing system.


yes that is also true

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Aganerral wrote...

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Okay I got a response. I can't post full response as it contains spoilers. But Thomas Abram said he'd not had a chane to look into things in detail yet (understandable). He repeated that he got 5000 on SP, but you need to do a specific thing and already have 4000 (which he repeated was achievable) to get assets which take you over 5000. unfortunately, 4000 doesn't appear possible in the game we own!


The extra 1000 specific thing is known and is part of the end sequence.  People in this thread take this into account when saying they want to get to 4000 EMS.  4000  EMS + the 1 thing = the extra content scene that is being discussed.

Incidentally, given that it occurs in the end sequence when we can't see our EMS numbers, we never actually see the number after that.

I would love to see his details on how to get 4000.  Even if he's somehow right and the data minign team is wrong, if you have to do every quest and DLC and perfectly min/max throughout all 3 games and it gets you to exactly 4k, I still say it's screwed up that someone can just half ass through, play MP, and get to 4000.  There should be enough assets in game for completionists to get to ~5000 EMS in single player only, before starting the final mission.  That would allow people to miss some here and there, but not skip anything major.


Ya. So just as I said before. It requires voodoo and Farsight. If it is doable at all.

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Rhyalus wrote...

Hmmmm, I don't mean to start a war up or anything, but I didn't like scanning planets in ME2, but I did it because that is what the game required for me to gain assets and money, etc.

Play a round or 2 of MP (I never used a mic yet), and you can get over the bloody 4000.

What a crazy thread...

R


hey genius - not everyone has internet hooked up to their console or and  XBOX gold account - 


OK, enjoy your unhappiness...

I didn't realize people didn't have the internet hooked up to their xbox.  No need to get nasty pal.  I am a PC player so was thinking about it from that perspective.

R

Modifié par Rhyalus, 13 avril 2012 - 02:14 .


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I thought EMS was BEFORE the readiness was calculated.

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So is the highest value (that seems unachievable) required for the best ending? i.e,, if you get 7000 instead of 8000, is that ending so terrible - NO SPOILERS....

Has it been confirmed that only the perfect score will do?

R

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@Rhyalus You're really not even worth replying to--I saw what your previous post said before you edited it--but the answer to your question is that there exists an extra scene if you can attain 4000 EMS. Short, but important to some, and it will most likely be expanded on in the extended cut.

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Tietj wrote...

@Rhyalus You're really not even worth replying to--I saw what your previous post said before you edited it--but the answer to your question is that there exists an extra scene if you can attain 4000 EMS. Short, but important to some, and it will most likely be expanded on in the extended cut.


Hey, thanks for deigning to reply.

My edit was not earth shattering...  just trying to understand the anger around here.

R

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paul165 wrote...

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Personally, I achieved 7100+ TMS so thats 3550 at 50% readiness. So I need to locate 450 more assets. I can probably scrape together 100 assets from bad argument decisions +1000 for this final decision (which I didnt really want to mention without any proof).  In anycase If there were more than enough assets in SP as Bioware says I wouldnt be hunting for assets. This leads me to really think the best ending is the renegade ending........ I feel really bad for PS3 folks not being able to import ME1 saves. 


Except given the 50% multiplier you actually need to locate 900 - good hunting I think you'll need it.



f*&K!!!! youre right ..i think i was hungry when i posted that so i wasnt thinking clearly.

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EMS is after Galactic Readiness.

Total Military Strength (TMS) = War Assets.

Effective Military Strength (EMS) = TMS * Galactic Readiness (base 50% without multiplayer or iOS apps)

EMS is the number at the bottom of the screen. EMS counts, TMS doesn't. Since the total possible number of War Assets that can be gotten on the perfect three game playthrough is 7590, EMS will NEVER equal 4000 without playing multiplayer or the iOS apps.

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@Rhyalus I'm sorry if I sounded snarky there, I didn't really mean to. But one of the most common responses to this topic has been "Just stop complaining and play multiplayer!" Well, I live in an area where the internet connection just isn't fast enough to support it, so that's not really an option. And it's not because I can't AFFORD it, and even if it were, there was no need to rub it in.

And as others have pointed out, it shouldn't matter as they promised we wouldn't need multiplayer and we do. But it's useless pointing it out, because most likely on the next page someone will post something similar to what you posted, and we're just sick of hearing that particular non-answer. So, sorry.

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Tietj wrote...

@Rhyalus I'm sorry if I sounded snarky there, I didn't really mean to. But one of the most common responses to this topic has been "Just stop complaining and play multiplayer!" Well, I live in an area where the internet connection just isn't fast enough to support it, so that's not really an option. And it's not because I can't AFFORD it, and even if it were, there was no need to rub it in.

And as others have pointed out, it shouldn't matter as they promised we wouldn't need multiplayer and we do. But it's useless pointing it out, because most likely on the next page someone will post something similar to what you posted, and we're just sick of hearing that particular non-answer. So, sorry.



and most importantly ....I dont want to MP for War Assers i want to enjoy my ME3 experience  from begining to end  in a closet with no intrenet connection needed lol.

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IanPolaris wrote...
  If Bioware says otherwise, they are lying.  If I am to be banned for such a statement so be it.  It's just a fact.


"Mistaken" would still work. How he actually manages to be mistaken about this......nah, I got nothing.

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I can state with absolute certainty that no, it is not possible to get 4000+ EMS without multiplayer

Elaborated on in this thread: http://social.biowar.../index/11341589

Modifié par secretidentity, 13 avril 2012 - 04:13 .


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Sry kind of small was taken on my phone as I play on 360. This is a perfect ME1 to ME3 play through for max war assets. Note I don't play MP nor do I have the IOs apps, so there is points there that are missing. I you have any questions PM me and I can answers them. EMS is 3707

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Rhyalus wrote...

So is the highest value (that seems unachievable) required for the best ending? i.e,, if you get 7000 instead of 8000, is that ending so terrible - NO SPOILERS....

Has it been confirmed that only the perfect score will do?

R


Just to clarify a little more, there is an ending that requires EMS 4000, which means either 8000 War Assets, or MP to boost the readiness percentage. And there are less than 8000 WA points in the game.

Whether this ending is the "best" or not is debatable -- whatever else you want to say about the endings, Bio did succeed at having endings where players can have a legitimate disagreement about which ending is the best one. But that's not the issue. Whether or not the EMS 4000 is the best ending or not, players who don't play MP shoulD be able to get to it.

Modifié par AlanC9, 13 avril 2012 - 04:54 .


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Rhyalus wrote...

Tietj wrote...

@Rhyalus You're really not even worth replying to--I saw what your previous post said before you edited it--but the answer to your question is that there exists an extra scene if you can attain 4000 EMS. Short, but important to some, and it will most likely be expanded on in the extended cut.


Hey, thanks for deigning to reply.

My edit was not earth shattering...  just trying to understand the anger around here.

R



BioWare staff explicitly claimed that all single-player content would be accessible without requiring multiplayer gameplay.  Research has proven the claim to be false; at least one ending scene requires an Effective Military Score not attainable through only single-player gameplay.  Consequently, BioWare staff demonstrably lied. 

Consumers frequently dislike product vendors issuing demonstrable lies.

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Eragondragonrider wrote...


Sry kind of small was taken on my phone as I play on 360. This is a perfect ME1 to ME3 play through for max war assets. Note I don't play MP nor do I have the IOs apps, so there is points there that are missing. I you have any questions PM me and I can answers them. EMS is 3707


Which is fairly close to a 'perfect' playthrough I think the datamining suggests you can get ~3800 but there is no meaningful difference between getting 2800 and 3999 so perfect/completionist playthroughs don't matter.


Which is kind of the problem...

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Still nothing official from Bioware about this?

I don't like multiplayer, and I don't have an iphone or ipad.

Bioware assured us that we could get the most optimal ending playing single player only.

Well I can't get the most optimal ending, which to me and many others is getting that 10 second Shep clipImage IPB

......I imported a character from ME1, ME2 and I have the CE version. I have scaned every single planet and have done all the side missions.

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 13 avril 2012 - 08:03 .


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Gtacatalina wrote...
I don't like multiplayer, and I don't have an iphone or ipad.


Looks like this game is not tailored for people like you and me then.

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Hard to tell who it's aimed at

The Bro force players won't want to play the story, and the story is impossible to complete single player with the best ending

They want to shift map packs I think that is what this probably comes down to

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Gtacatalina wrote...

Still nothing official from Bioware about this?

I don't like multiplayer, and I don't have an iphone or ipad.

Bioware assured us that we could get the most optimal ending playing single player only.

Well I can't get the most optimal ending, which to me and many others is getting that 10 second Shep clipImage IPB

......I imported a character from ME1, ME2 and I have the CE version. I have scaned every single planet and have done all the side missions.



Nope, still nothing official from Bioware; it would seem they are tied up in the patch issues at the moment, though some folks have managed to get replies by email which indicate Bioware don't (yet) see this as an issue, so far stating that is should be possible to attain the 4,000 or 5,000 EMS required.

Like you I have the Collector's Edition, have scanned the living daylights out of every corner of the visitable galaxy, followed every available quest, imported the same character from ME1 - ME2 - ME3, completed all the available DLC, and still don't quite get there; 3,600ish in my case.

I don't mind MP being available but I don't want to play it - not my thing.  What I do really mind is the ending being in there and supposedly available without MP (according to various Bioware feedback at this time, and the official game guide, which spells out the exact point-breaks required to get different ending outcomes but clearly states every ending is attainable in a SP game), but which I cannot achieve, and which may be expanded upon in the summer "endings DLC".

Hopefully (and I do still have some hope) once the patch issues are ironed out this can work its way up the priority list.

(thanks to the posters who shared their email feedback by the way - much appreciated, even if not the best news regarding the answers received so far).

(and thanks to secretidentity, your thread posting http://social.biowar.../index/11341589 is excellent!)

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Crossposted from (from Face issues) I wrote

Salute to you all ( I hope you dont get tired of my postings)

Does Bioware realize that they are in a burning house?
Are Bioware TOP level ppl aware of the fact that they are loosing a huge part of their Fanbase now?

To all the ppl that have a job in the Bioware buildings.. The cleaners, the cantina ppl, the devs, the PR ppl , the window washers , the game writers , the communication managers, the shareholders, all that i forget to mention.

Are you aware that Bioware's reputation and gooing true this hard economic wordl wide mess is gooing to effect you also if you all loose your jobs because Bioware cannot sell games anymore because they are loosing paying customers.

Personally i loved ME1 and 2 and DA/O and i want BW to stay in business!
But the way its gooing now i fear for the worst.

BW please realize you really are in a burning house!
I personaly dont think its to late yet.. But you have to change your PR attitude.
You have to let go your "artistic art " and arrogant and stubborn attitude!

Start talking to US we are your customers! We are the ones that buy your games because we Love ore " Loved" them.

Without us you are doomed!!

To all the PR ppl @ BW start NOW to communicate and try to gain our trust and faith and believe in you back!

*Note* also blame yourself Bioware! If you had delivered ME3 to us .....

--> Without the Face Import Bug,
--> Without the EMS troubles ( 5000) needed for best end is not possible without MP.
--> Without the endings so many of your customers complain about.

If you just had delivered a great game to us you wouldnt be in so many problems as you are now!
Then we all would worship you and begging you for more! and as soon you would tell us something new ore DLC the fanbase would pay for DLC and Pre-Order all your games.

Are you really really aware Bioware you are loosing this battle now?

Please turn the tide.
In The Netherlands we have some sayings...

" Gooi de baby niet weg met het waswater"
"Als het kalf verdronken is dempt men de put"

Take Care and i really wish you all the best, and i really hope that in 3 years from now i regained the trust and will start buying your games again.

I know you can! You gave me 400 + hours of pure exitement and Joy in Me1 and Me2.
Dont let it end this way.

Ok i am tired had 3 nightshifts i am just home and i need sleep now.
Emphyr(io)

(edited for typo's)

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Emphyr wrote...


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Genius.