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[7isMagic]

25 days this thread has been up. More than 1,300 (reply) posts in this thread alone. It's 54 pages strong at the time of this writing. And numerous "new" threads on this very topic have been posted since the game's release - all locked down and redirected to this "main" thread.

How can Bioware NOT know this is an important issue to many players?

There is a lot of conjecture as to why this "shortcoming" even exists. Is it a bug? Did Bioware intentionally withhold war assets from single player mode to force players into MP or other apps? Does Bioware consider the "synthesis" ending to be the best - in which case there are enough war assets in-game for single player mode?

Whatever the case...

Why on earth hasn't this been addressed - or, at the very least, responded to in an HONEST manner by the powers-that-be? Not a forum moderator, not a PR person, but by someone who actually made the game (aka a Dev)? Why can't the person (people) responsible for this aspect of the game come forward and speak to concerned gamers about this? Why the delay? Why the deafening silence?

[freler31]

7isMagic wrote...

25 days this thread has been up. More than 1,300 (reply) posts in this thread alone. It's 54 pages strong at the time of this writing. And numerous "new" threads on this very topic have been posted since the game's release - all locked down and redirected to this "main" thread.

How can Bioware NOT know this is an important issue to many players?

There is a lot of conjecture as to why this "shortcoming" even exists. Is it a bug? Did Bioware intentionally withhold war assets from single player mode to force players into MP or other apps? Does Bioware consider the "synthesis" ending to be the best - in which case there are enough war assets in-game for single player mode?

Whatever the case...

Why on earth hasn't this been addressed - or, at the very least, responded to in an HONEST manner by the powers-that-be? Not a forum moderator, not a PR person, but by someone who actually made the game (aka a Dev)? Why can't the person (people) responsible for this aspect of the game come forward and speak to concerned gamers about this? Why the delay? Why the deafening silence?

You've hit every damn point on the head, at this point it's just disgusting that this issue hasn't been addressed.

Modifié par freler31, 17 avril 2012 - 09:17 .

[Emphyr]

They told all angry users with the face issue to go to the sticky.. then after 8000+ postings 360 pages and 160.000 + views Chris locked it. (problem solved) and  posted for thoose who have still problems go to EA customer service.

I am affraid that wil happen to this topic also..

Take Care

Modifié par Emphyr, 17 avril 2012 - 09:18 .

[freler31]

Yeah probably...

doesn't mean we can't make some noise about it and maybe, just maybe we'll actually get our game fixed.

[MeanderingMind]

To me, this issue is another smoking gun that extensive parts of the game was ripped out to be released at a later date as DLC. The part that makes me the most sad is BioWare not owning up to what they released and the issues with it. I "discovered" BioWare with ME1 and DA:O and was blown away. Little did I know or suspect it was going to be such a short ride. Thanks anyway for those two games, they were among the best I've experienced.

[Emphyr]

freler31 wrote...

Yeah probably...

doesn't mean we can't make some noise about it and maybe, just maybe we'll actually get our game fixed.

Well we made a lot of noise ( and still do) and our problem still is not fixed.

The fanbase is fixing it now... ( and they are close! ) Still no response from BW/EA in any way.
Take Care

[RaggieRags]

Either this has been an honest mistake, or it is a calculated effort to make people pay for apps and dlc that raise the points. It's also making me wonder if it was "just" due to bad writing that the storyline didn't so much have an ending, but simply stopped. Was the original idea to sell us closure?

I would like to think only the best of bioware. However, Bioware is now a part of a bigger company, which is infamous for underhanded tactics. Being suspicios at this point is in my opinion justified. I believe EA is constantly trying to find new ways to make their most loyal customers pay more, and selling the games in little bits and pieces is one way. We already know ME3 has first-day DLC and merchandise that come with DLC. The war assets would be a tempting way to pressure people into paying more.

[freler31]

Emphyr wrote...

freler31 wrote...

Yeah probably...

doesn't mean we can't make some noise about it and maybe, just maybe we'll actually get our game fixed.

Well we made a lot of noise ( and still do) and our problem still is not fixed.

The fanbase is fixing it now... ( and they are close! ) Still no response from BW/EA in any way.
Take Care

BioWare really has let us down about many things, haven't they? I'm not personally bothered about the face import glitch but I understand the frustratration that people are feeling about it. If they would just come clean and admit the screw up it would go a long way.

[Benny8484]

I'm sure Bioware will just lock this thread down & ignore the issue like they did with faces not importing in ME3.  That thread was 356 pages long. 

[Salaya]

So far, I'm loving the game. But this thing with the war assets is frustrating. Mass effect 3 is a superior game, not even comparable to the Dragon Age 2-fiasco in quality; but it's as if the two share the same problem: devs or producers took agressive methods to make them profitable.

I understand that they must make as much money as they can with it... but lying to customers and saying half-truths is the only way to archieve that? If you read M3 FAQ in the official page (as in many dev statements prior to release) it clearly reads that the multiplayer game does not interfere with the SP in any way. It seems as if BW and EA treat me as an idiot.

It's very sad that a great game as ME3 pauperize its quality with something as banal as this.

[RaggieRags]

It's hard to say how much EA has had an effect on Bioware, but I've become increasingly worried. I'm currently a backer on several kickstarters where independent game devs collect money for old-skool RPGs. We have been told again and again by Bioware and many others that these kind of RPGs are not profitable, and the only way is to join the big guns to get the kinds of budgets required for projects that gamers supposedly "want"... However, looking at the success of these kickstarters is raising some serious questions.

[Kub666]

Kitty Fae wrote...

I think they should change the OP's title to something more in line with what is actually happening.

The question is not "Can you REALLY get 4000+ ems points without Multiplayer?"
It is now "When will Bioware admit that you cannot get 4k+ EMS points (8k+ TMS points) ?"

Or something like - "Confirmed - 4k EMS not possible in SP"

[Kub666]

RaggieRags wrote...

It's hard to say how much EA has had an effect on Bioware, but I've become increasingly worried. I'm currently a backer on several kickstarters where independent game devs collect money for old-skool RPGs. We have been told again and again by Bioware and many others that these kind of RPGs are not profitable, and the only way is to join the big guns to get the kinds of budgets required for projects that gamers supposedly "want"... However, looking at the success of these kickstarters is raising some serious questions.

To be fair, 2M or even 3M is still not enough for AAA title, which has to cater to mainstream people who know nothing about video games. EA just sells to different kind of people and to larger numbers of them - CoD fans, GoW fans, console crowd. Tim Shafer and other guys found niche on the market, which is good, and I also put some money there. But ME is just different ball game.

Anyway, sorry for off-topic

[RaggieRags]

Kub666 wrote...

To be fair, 2M or even 3M is still not enough for AAA title, which has to cater to mainstream people who know nothing about video games. EA just sells to different kind of people and to larger numbers of them - CoD fans, GoW fans, console crowd. Tim Shafer and other guys found niche on the market, which is good, and I also put some money there. But ME is just different ball game.

True, but it was Bioware's own decision to target the mass markets. They have changed their focus audience. Niche products can be profitable and mass markets don't quarantee success (far from it AFAIK), so it's not like Bioware had no choice but to join EA.

Modifié par RaggieRags, 17 avril 2012 - 11:12 .

[CG Drum]

Nice to see that people are getting replies to their PMs - still waiting for one to mine!

Hopeful that they will sort this out so that the SP only gamers can finally access all parts of the game they purchased. I know many say it is only a small clip but that's not the point, and that clip could well be expanded on in the ending DLC they have promised us.

Come on Bioware we are eagerly awaiting your response and actions on this issue!

[G00N3R7883]

Just a quick post to say that, although I haven't been posting here alot recently, this issue is still VERY important to me. I am of the opinion that EVERYTHING, no matter how small, in a singleplayer game should be achievable from the singleplayer only.

I also am very confused as to why this issue has taken so long to address. All Bioware need to say is either
- its a bug, we do/do not know what is causing it and we do/do not plan to fix it.
- its by design, and we do/do not intend to add more WA in future DLC
- it actually IS possible, and this is exactly what players need to do, every choice, every WA.

The worst possible thing to do is just stay silent.

[Ericus]

RaggieRags wrote...

Kub666 wrote...

To be fair, 2M or even 3M is still not enough for AAA title, which has to cater to mainstream people who know nothing about video games. EA just sells to different kind of people and to larger numbers of them - CoD fans, GoW fans, console crowd. Tim Shafer and other guys found niche on the market, which is good, and I also put some money there. But ME is just different ball game.

True, but it was Bioware's own decision to target the mass markets. They have changed their focus audience. Niche products can be profitable and mass markets don't quarantee success (far from it AFAIK), so it's not like Bioware had no choice but to join EA.

I've started supporting some of the Kickstarter projects as well.  And although I agree that 2M to 3M won't produce an AAA title, that's not a big problem for me.  I'd rather have a really great story with engaging characters and gameplay over slick graphics any day.  Up until the last 10 minutes, the Mass Effect trilogy offered the best of both (and perhaps still will with the DLC).  Who knows, maybe we'll see a ME1 inspired game show up on Kickstarter one day...

[Dimensio]

G00N3R7883 wrote...

Just a quick post to say that, although I haven't been posting here alot recently, this issue is still VERY important to me. I am of the opinion that EVERYTHING, no matter how small, in a singleplayer game should be achievable from the singleplayer only.

I also am very confused as to why this issue has taken so long to address. All Bioware need to say is either
- its a bug, we do/do not know what is causing it and we do/do not plan to fix it.
- its by design, and we do/do not intend to add more WA in future DLC
- it actually IS possible, and this is exactly what players need to do, every choice, every WA.

The worst possible thing to do is just stay silent.

BioWare staff have claimed the result to be attainable.  Unfortunately, they have not explained why examination of game data seems to contradict the claim.

[Krogangreetings]

Kub666 wrote...

Kitty Fae wrote...

I think they should change the OP's title to something more in line with what is actually happening.

The question is not "Can you REALLY get 4000+ ems points without Multiplayer?"
It is now "When will Bioware admit that you cannot get 4k+ EMS points (8k+ TMS points) ?"

Or something like - "Confirmed - 4k EMS not possible in SP"

yup it's been confirmed after all

[Szuli]

Yep, in this thread:

http://social.biowar...446886#11452171

crimzontearz wrote...

I have it in my PM Box...but here is the quote

Brenon Holmes
08:41 AM 2012-03-19 Hmm, so Bjorn is back - asked about some of that stuff. Turns out your suspicions were correct - you can't get enough assets with the main game alone to get that additional secret bit. He says in order to get enough you do need to engage in one of the side games (MP, Facebook or IOS thingie).

I'm really sorry about that, I honestly thought you could it with SP alone plus imports...

I can post a picture of my PM box later if you wish

crimzontearz wrote...

Bjorn is another Dev....he was in charge of the whole war assets/EMS thing

So the person who was in charge of the war assets thing confirmed in a PM that it is indeed impossible to get 4000+ EMS in SP one month ago. And absolutely nothing has been done about it but locking down threads and telling people that yes, it is possible.

[Emerald Rift]

Szuli wrote...

Yep, in this thread:

http://social.biowar...446886#11452171

crimzontearz wrote...

I have it in my PM Box...but here is the quote

Brenon Holmes
08:41 AM 2012-03-19 Hmm, so Bjorn is back - asked about some of that stuff. Turns out your suspicions were correct - you can't get enough assets with the main game alone to get that additional secret bit. He says in order to get enough you do need to engage in one of the side games (MP, Facebook or IOS thingie).

I'm really sorry about that, I honestly thought you could it with SP alone plus imports...

I can post a picture of my PM box later if you wish

crimzontearz wrote...

Bjorn is another Dev....he was in charge of the whole war assets/EMS thing

So the person who was in charge of the war assets thing confirmed in a PM that it is indeed impossible to get 4000+ EMS in SP one month ago. And absolutely nothing has been done about it but locking down threads and telling people that yes, it is possible.

This takes the mickey. I still haven't tocuhed multiplayer and I don't really want to for my second playthrough. 

[Kitty Fae]

Kitty Fae wrote...

I think they should change the OP's title to something more in line with what is actually happening.

The question is not "Can you REALLY get 4000+ ems points without Multiplayer?"
It is now "When will Bioware admit that you cannot get 4k+ EMS points (8k+ TMS points) ?"

Szuli wrote...

Yep, in this thread:

http://social.biowar...446886#11452171

crimzontearz wrote...

I have it in my PM Box...but here is the quote

Brenon Holmes
08:41 AM 2012-03-19 Hmm, so Bjorn is back - asked about some of that stuff. Turns out your suspicions were correct - you can't get enough assets with the main game alone to get that additional secret bit. He says in order to get enough you do need to engage in one of the side games (MP, Facebook or IOS thingie).

I'm really sorry about that, I honestly thought you could it with SP alone plus imports...

I can post a picture of my PM box later if you wish

crimzontearz wrote...

Bjorn is another Dev....he was in charge of the whole war assets/EMS thing

So the person who was in charge of the war assets thing confirmed in a PM that it is indeed impossible to get 4000+ EMS in SP one month ago. And absolutely nothing has been done about it but locking down threads and telling people that yes, it is possible.

Great. So can we please put my post into effect? OP change the name!

[bluewolv1970]

Szuli wrote...

Yep, in this thread:

http://social.biowar...446886#11452171

crimzontearz wrote...

I have it in my PM Box...but here is the quote

Brenon Holmes
08:41 AM 2012-03-19 Hmm, so Bjorn is back - asked about some of that stuff. Turns out your suspicions were correct - you can't get enough assets with the main game alone to get that additional secret bit. He says in order to get enough you do need to engage in one of the side games (MP, Facebook or IOS thingie).

I'm really sorry about that, I honestly thought you could it with SP alone plus imports...

I can post a picture of my PM box later if you wish

crimzontearz wrote...

Bjorn is another Dev....he was in charge of the whole war assets/EMS thing

So the person who was in charge of the war assets thing confirmed in a PM that it is indeed impossible to get 4000+ EMS in SP one month ago. And absolutely nothing has been done about it but locking down threads and telling people that yes, it is possible.

Yes - Bioware, at this point, isflat out lying and ignoring the problem...

[Kub666]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

Yes - Bioware, at this point, isflat out lying and ignoring the problem...

It looks more like a major f@%kup on their part and lack of communication inside the company to me. We do not really have any proof one way or another, we just don't know why the released game is short on war assets and who knew what in Bioware about it. 

Until some official announcement we are basically in the dark.

[Daramatis]

Krogangreetings wrote...

Kub666 wrote...

Kitty Fae wrote...

I think they should change the OP's title to something more in line with what is actually happening.

The question is not "Can you REALLY get 4000+ ems points without Multiplayer?"
It is now "When will Bioware admit that you cannot get 4k+ EMS points (8k+ TMS points) ?"

Or something like - "Confirmed - 4k EMS not possible in SP"

yup it's been confirmed after all

Yippee!!!  I'm not going insane, I'M NOT GOING INSANE!!!

Nor am I being an incompetent gamer; after 25+ years of gaming I was starting to think I'd lost too many little grey cells to complete this game!