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Can you REALLY get 4000+ EMS points without Multiplayer?


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Ummm I got 5,100 in my play through without doing multiplayer I just collected every single artifact and war asset from every planet in every system and did every quest. So I don't get it when people say that its impossible maybe you can only do it on the pc? Because thats the version I have I did this within 2 weeks the game was released and I don't believe they updated in that time

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CG Drum wrote...

Nice to see that people are getting replies to their PMs - still waiting for one to mine!

Hopeful that they will sort this out so that the SP only gamers can finally access all parts of the game they purchased. I know many say it is only a small clip but that's not the point, and that clip could well be expanded on in the ending DLC they have promised us.

Come on Bioware we are eagerly awaiting your response and actions on this issue!



Hope you get a positive reply soon.

I can see how, to some, it may seem like a trivial few seconds of content, but like you, I want to be able to get there, as I should be able to, as the game stands.

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Kub666 wrote...

bluewolv1970 wrote...

Yes - Bioware, at this point, isflat out lying and ignoring the problem...


It looks more like a major f@%kup on their part and lack of communication inside the company to me. We do not really have any proof one way or another, we just don't know why the released game is short on war assets and who knew what in Bioware about it. 

Until some official announcement we are basically in the dark.


We have already had one person (the guy who worked on war assets) tell us it is NOT POSSIBLE - yet the usual PR people had continually lied and said we can (while NEVER providing answers as to how)...what is vague about it...there was a stickied thread on the front page of the forums saying we could...Chris Priestly closed a thread because soemone said Jarrett Lee's post was wrong, when in fact it WAS wrong...again Bioware is alternately lying about and ignoring the problem...what does that say about this company and how much they value customers???  At this point, this issue is 100% retail fraud because NOWHERE on the game box does it say you need an internet connection or iphone to access some of th SP content, when in fact, you do...  

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FTR GROG wrote...

Ummm I got 5,100 in my play through without doing multiplayer I just collected every single artifact and war asset from every planet in every system and did every quest. So I don't get it when people say that its impossible maybe you can only do it on the pc? Because thats the version I have I did this within 2 weeks the game was released and I don't believe they updated in that time


Suuure you did. Screenshot please. 

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FTR GROG wrote...

Ummm I got 5,100 in my play through without doing multiplayer I just collected every single artifact and war asset from every planet in every system and did every quest. So I don't get it when people say that its impossible maybe you can only do it on the pc? Because thats the version I have I did this within 2 weeks the game was released and I don't believe they updated in that time


Please provide visual documentation of your accomplishment and verify that you neither replaced nor modified the game's coalesced.bin file.

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@FTR Grog: No you didn't

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FTR GROG wrote...

Ummm I got 5,100 in my play through without doing multiplayer I just collected every single artifact and war asset from every planet in every system and did every quest. So I don't get it when people say that its impossible maybe you can only do it on the pc? Because thats the version I have I did this within 2 weeks the game was released and I don't believe they updated in that time


ummm you are lying because a developer confirmed, ummmm that there are ummmm, NOT 4000 in the game let alone 5000 (which would be 10000 TMS), so ummmm go troll somwhere else please

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For what it's worth, I don't think he/she is trolling, just confused or mistaken.

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bluewolv1970 wrote...

We have already had one person (the guy who worked on war assets) tell us it is NOT POSSIBLE - yet the usual PR people had continually lied and said we can (while NEVER providing answers as to how)...what is vague about it...there was a stickied thread on the front page of the forums saying we could...Chris Priestly closed a thread because soemone said Jarrett Lee's post was wrong, when in fact it WAS wrong...again Bioware is alternately lying about and ignoring the problem...what does that say about this company and how much they value customers???  At this point, this issue is 100% retail fraud because NOWHERE on the game box does it say you need an internet connection or iphone to access some of th SP content, when in fact, you do...  


I still want to give them benefit of doubt. The fact that many of them reply to tweets and PMs is very positive and not so common in other companies. Accusing them of fraud is taking it too far at this point, so far I would only accuse them of incompetence and - in some rare cases - arrogance. 

The PM from a dev is not an official statement per se - the same as Pat Weeks' interview on endings was not really an official interview. Right now all we know is that we have PMs from Bio both confirming and denying our side of the story. So until I see official statement about this I cannot really say if Bioware changed their view.

I do hope they will post something soon and fix it in the next patch.

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FTR GROG wrote...

Ummm I got 5,100 in my play through without doing multiplayer I just collected every single artifact and war asset from every planet in every system and did every quest. So I don't get it when people say that its impossible maybe you can only do it on the pc? Because thats the version I have I did this within 2 weeks the game was released and I don't believe they updated in that time


I am extremely curious to see how you did this.

I'm just starting act 2 right now and I have only 1,300 EMS.  And that is with importing a ME1/ME2 save (where I completed everything, all DLC, saved all members of the crew in ME2 from the collectors, saved the rachni queen the whole 9 yards on both of those games), having my galactic readiness at 85% and doing every single side quest and getting every single war asset possible up to the start of act 2.  I have doubts that you can get 5100 w/o multiplayer and would like to see a screenshot

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FTR GROG wrote...

Ummm I got 5,100 in my play through without doing multiplayer I just collected every single artifact and war asset from every planet in every system and did every quest. So I don't get it when people say that its impossible maybe you can only do it on the pc? Because thats the version I have I did this within 2 weeks the game was released and I don't believe they updated in that time


Can you give us some visual evidence? And if so, did you used some cheat or modifications? Or, in the worst case, are you sure that you are not confusing Effective Military Strength with the numbers before aplying the galactic readiness percentage? 

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bluewolv1970 wrote...

FTR GROG wrote...

Ummm I got 5,100 in my play through without doing multiplayer I just collected every single artifact and war asset from every planet in every system and did every quest. So I don't get it when people say that its impossible maybe you can only do it on the pc? Because thats the version I have I did this within 2 weeks the game was released and I don't believe they updated in that time


ummm you are lying because a developer confirmed, ummmm that there are ummmm, NOT 4000 in the game let alone 5000 (which would be 10000 TMS), so ummmm go troll somwhere else please


I don't think that he/she is lying. I think the poster confuses EMS with TMS.

Kub666 wrote...

I still want to give them benefit of
doubt. The fact that many of them reply to tweets and PMs is very
positive and not so common in other companies. Accusing them of fraud is
taking it too far at this point, so far I would only accuse them of
incompetence and - in some rare cases - arrogance. 

The PM from a
dev is not an official statement per se - the same as Pat Weeks'
interview on endings was not really an official interview. Right now all
we know is that we have PMs from Bio both confirming and denying our
side of the story. So until I see official statement about this I cannot
really say if Bioware changed their view.

I do hope they will post something soon and fix it in the next patch.


I also think that it's a case of incompetence and arrogance. It seems that even inside BW there is confusion about this issue. But if the dev himself, who actually worked on the war assets, said that there is no way to get 4000+ EMS in SP, then I take that as the truth and those who said that it was possible are just repeating what the PR has told us without actually checking themselves. I do wonder though how Thomas Abram could say that he did get 4000+ EMS when according to the dev it is impossible.

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Daramatis wrote...

CG Drum wrote...

Nice to see that people are getting replies to their PMs - still waiting for one to mine!

Hopeful that they will sort this out so that the SP only gamers can finally access all parts of the game they purchased. I know many say it is only a small clip but that's not the point, and that clip could well be expanded on in the ending DLC they have promised us.

Come on Bioware we are eagerly awaiting your response and actions on this issue!



Hope you get a positive reply soon.

I can see how, to some, it may seem like a trivial few seconds of content, but like you, I want to be able to get there, as I should be able to, as the game stands.



I totally agree.

Modifié par Szuli, 17 avril 2012 - 03:29 .


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It may be only a few seconds of content but it completely changes the outcome for a character we care about. Plus, it will probably be expanded in the extended cut.

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@FTR GROG All i can do is laugh...I cant wait to see this screenshot/proof ... I saw this one guy who attempted to post his screen. Long story short the krogan had 1500 strength (an obvious file edit).

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Well, that's what a "we listen to our fans" phrase looks like in real life. Do Bioware ignore the community on purpose or have they been instructed so by the biggest -censored- of gaming, our most beloved -censored-? First, the DA2 let-down, now this. The lack of communication and treating fans like -censored- will inevitably result in further damage to Bioware's reputation.
I translate Bioware's/-censored's latest actions to: "We have already got your money, we do not care anymore. Next please."
Truly sad what has become of my once-favourite games developer.
And there is one more thing:
HOW MANY WAR ASSETS CAN WE GET IN THE SP CAMPAIGN? Furthermore, there is something important I would like to know an answer to:
CAN WE GET THE BEST ENDING JUST BY PLAYING THE SP CAMPAIGN?
Yes, I almost forgot about this:
IS IT POSSIBLE TO REACH THE 4000EMS THRESHOLD JUST BY PLAYING THE SP CAMPAIGN?
Excuse me, I just need to spit out something bitter on my tongue:
DO WE HAVE TO TOUCH THE MP MODE TO GET THE BEST ENDING IN SP?
And least, but not last, this is really driving me crazy:
HOW DO WE CHANGE THE GALACTIC READINESS MULTIPLIER IN SP?
HOW MANY PEOPLE AT BIOWARE HAS REACHED THE MAGIC EMS VALUE JUST BY PLAYING SP?

Could somebody at Bioware or possibly -censored- be so kind and provide me with a clear, unambiguous and honest response? Thanks in advance. A customer.

Modifié par Martanek, 17 avril 2012 - 03:54 .


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5100's a really odd figure. If FTR GROG is talking about WA points by mistake, it's way low. If it's really EMS, it's absurdly high.

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AlanC9 wrote...

5100's a really odd figure. If FTR GROG is talking about WA points by mistake, it's way low. If it's really EMS, it's absurdly high.


That might be on par with a well-played non-import playthrough.
Honestly, the non-import playthroughs ARE screwed in many ways, but I think that's about the TMS you would get if you did everything you could.

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I usually play a non-import and I've been able to get about 2600 EMS, so yeah, that's about right.

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Mike gambles Twitter 11hrs ago (some one more gifted then me might want to link it up better not sure of the ins and outs of twitter)

http://twitter.com/#!/gamblemike

"We are definately looking at the war assests thing" in response to Sons_O_Liberty

it's spread across a few messages from Sons_O_Liberty so you should check out his profile as well

http://twitter.com/#!/Sons_O_Liberty

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bluewolv1970 wrote...

FTR GROG wrote...

Ummm I got 5,100 in my play through without doing multiplayer I just collected every single artifact and war asset from every planet in every system and did every quest. So I don't get it when people say that its impossible maybe you can only do it on the pc? Because thats the version I have I did this within 2 weeks the game was released and I don't believe they updated in that time


ummm you are lying because a developer confirmed, ummmm that there are ummmm, NOT 4000 in the game let alone 5000 (which would be 10000 TMS), so ummmm go troll somwhere else please


Rules of the internet - 14. Do not argue with a troll — it means that they win.

However, You are correct.
The absolute minimum EMS required for "THAT" ending is 4000 which means your War Assets needs to be double that with just playing the ME3 single player campaign.

8000 War Assets * 50% Galatic Readiness = 4000 Effective Military Strength
Again, this is the bare minimum number, otherwise you need to somehow aquire 2k more for 10,000 war assets.

People in the community have already done code diving and found that it is mathematically impossible to achieve 4000 EMS just by playing SP. Even if you have a save game from ME1, with all the best possible choices to increase your EMS in ME3, it is still not possible.
Even if you choose to count the iOS game: Mass Effect: Infiltrator and "From the Ashes" DLC, they do not add enough war assets.

As many in the community have already said, the ONLY way you can reach 4000+ EMS is by playing multiplayer to temporarily raise your galatic readiness or promote enough squads from multiplayer to permanently raise your war assets.

This is how things are unless something changes.

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Modifié par JXS nWp, 17 avril 2012 - 03:55 .


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I've kept an open mind with this matter but can't anymore. A bit too big a f***up to go unnoticed this length of time. I call it like a see it, a ploy to populate mp.

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Luiginius wrote...

I've kept an open mind with this matter but can't anymore. A bit too big a f***up to go unnoticed this length of time. I call it like a see it, a ploy to populate mp.


Well with Thomas Abrams and Mike Gamble (see my post above) both looking at it perhaps something will happen now

I wouldn't be suprised if you're right about mp

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Krogangreetings wrote...

Mike gambles Twitter 11hrs ago (some one more gifted then me might want to link it up better not sure of the ins and outs of twitter)

http://twitter.com/#!/gamblemike

"We are definately looking at the war assests thing" in response to Sons_O_Liberty

it's spread across a few messages from Sons_O_Liberty so you should check out his profile as well

http://twitter.com/#!/Sons_O_Liberty


Interesting. Thanks for the post.

I hope that they will actually fix this issue and that they will consider PS3 players, too, who can never get some of the war assets because of the lack of ME1 on PS3.

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I'm happy to hear about the tweet from Mike Gamble! I'm more optimistic about this than I have been after the last two days.