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[quote]crimzontearz wrote...

I have it in my PM Box...but here is the quote

Brenon Holmes
08:41 AM 2012-03-19 Hmm, so Bjorn is back - asked about some of that stuff. Turns out your suspicions were correct - you can't get enough assets with the main game alone to get that additional secret bit. He says in order to get enough you do need to engage in one of the side games (MP, Facebook or IOS thingie).[/quote]

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I don't know what all this is about, but I can tell you what it smells like.

*sigh* I miss the days when Bioware's marketting tactic was just to make great games people want to play, not to play games with their customers...

Modifié par RaggieRags, 18 avril 2012 - 06:37 .


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So the sticky was removed yet they haven't come forward & acknowledged the fact that this game is incomplete without multiplayer.  The conclusion to a single player rpg trilogy at that.  Awesome.

Modifié par Benny8484, 18 avril 2012 - 07:53 .


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So another day and still no reply to my PM or any official reply to this thread! "sigh"

I finished my Paragon import game yesterday (still not liking the end - roll on the summer!) and managed to get around 3600 EMS - come on Bioware give us a break. Three games, hours of play and no hope of getting all the endings - what is that about?

Why are my 100+ hours of single player mode worth so little, whilst a few hours of MP mode worth so much?

Can't play MP so am stuffed until you sort this for me - please help.

Modifié par CG Drum, 18 avril 2012 - 08:52 .


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CG Drum wrote...

So another day and still no reply to my PM or any official reply to this thread! "sigh"

I finished my Paragon import game yesterday (still not liking the end - roll on the summer!) and managed to get around 3600 EMS - come on Bioware give us a break. Three games, hours of play and no hope of getting all the endings - what is that about?

Why are my 100+ hours of single player mode worth so little, whilst a few hours of MP mode worth so much?

Can't play MP so am stuffed until you sort this for me - please help.


Might be worth sending him another, I did once and he answered the second one


unrelated note I just got my Baldurs Gate 4 in 1 boxset in the post!!

Modifié par Krogangreetings, 18 avril 2012 - 09:39 .


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Krogangreetings wrote...

CG Drum wrote...

So another day and still no reply to my PM or any official reply to this thread! "sigh"

I finished my Paragon import game yesterday (still not liking the end - roll on the summer!) and managed to get around 3600 EMS - come on Bioware give us a break. Three games, hours of play and no hope of getting all the endings - what is that about?

Why are my 100+ hours of single player mode worth so little, whilst a few hours of MP mode worth so much?

Can't play MP so am stuffed until you sort this for me - please help.


Might be worth sending him another, I did once and he answered the second one


unrelated note I just got my Baldurs Gate 4 in 1 boxset in the post!!


"unrelated note I just got my Baldurs Gate 4 in 1 boxset in the post!!"

Cool!  I didn't know this was available!

Oooooh the good old days!

Amazing characters, great story progression, stunning environment artwork, brilliant npc-npc interaction (to the extent that some would leave your party if they didn't agree with the way things were heading!) and best of all... the most satisfying ending I can remember - epilogues for each of the characters in your party!

Hours of fun!  Enjoy!

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Krogangreetings wrote...
unrelated note I just got my Baldurs Gate 4 in 1 boxset in the post!!


Good for you! I highly recommend looking into some mods. There's some great stuff out there.

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Daramatis wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

CG Drum wrote...

So another day and still no reply to my PM or any official reply to this thread! "sigh"

I finished my Paragon import game yesterday (still not liking the end - roll on the summer!) and managed to get around 3600 EMS - come on Bioware give us a break. Three games, hours of play and no hope of getting all the endings - what is that about?

Why are my 100+ hours of single player mode worth so little, whilst a few hours of MP mode worth so much?

Can't play MP so am stuffed until you sort this for me - please help.


Might be worth sending him another, I did once and he answered the second one


unrelated note I just got my Baldurs Gate 4 in 1 boxset in the post!!


"unrelated note I just got my Baldurs Gate 4 in 1 boxset in the post!!"

Cool!  I didn't know this was available!

Oooooh the good old days!

Amazing characters, great story progression, stunning environment artwork, brilliant npc-npc interaction (to the extent that some would leave your party if they didn't agree with the way things were heading!) and best of all... the most satisfying ending I can remember - epilogues for each of the characters in your party!

Hours of fun!  Enjoy!

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yup it's is available

http://www.amazon.co... 4 in 1&x=0&y=0

Baldurs gate 1 2 and expansions!

looking forward to it :o

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RaggieRags wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...
unrelated note I just got my Baldurs Gate 4 in 1 boxset in the post!!


Good for you! I highly recommend looking into some mods. There's some great stuff out there.


Intresting :)

I'll give them a look once I have it all set up and running

Modifié par Krogangreetings, 18 avril 2012 - 11:53 .


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I could be wrong but if one does not have a registered license they cant post to these forums - yes? Accordingly it kind of makes the entire naysayers argument null and void. 


General discussion boards are open to anybody. Only the spoiler forums require a game registration. This was a problem for DA2 since there were a lot of ...... I guess I'd call them "terrorist" posts -- from anonymous users. ME fans have been much better behaved..


Thanks for the info. I was not aware of it. I simply assumed all the forms were locked given the moderation policy in recent years. 
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[quote]RaggieRags wrote...

[quote]crimzontearz wrote...

I have it in my PM Box...but here is the quote

Brenon Holmes
08:41 AM 2012-03-19 Hmm, so Bjorn is back - asked about some of that stuff. Turns out your suspicions were correct - you can't get enough assets with the main game alone to get that additional secret bit. He says in order to get enough you do need to engage in one of the side games (MP, Facebook or IOS thingie).[/quote]

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I don't know what all this is about, but I can tell you what it smells like.

*sigh* I miss the days when Bioware's marketting tactic was just to make great games people want to play, not to play games with their customers...

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exactly - it is fitting EA beat out a bank to become worst compnay in America, since they use the same tactic towards customers that banks use!!!  

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Well I got a reply to my PM from Thomas Abrams and he is apparently attempting another playthrough to try and achieve > 4000 EMS but as he notes it might take days or weeks. I appreciate that for someone like Thomas Abram game testing is something he is doing as an aside to his community role and thus must be placed below his actual day job as a priority. The question is why can't BW assign a tester to do this? They must have testers who can speed run the game and get 100% on the fetch quests inside a week.

The alleged dev comment from the chap who is responsible for the WA in BW is deeply troubling. I think I smell cross promotional BS as the reason we have to play MP/bloody apps.

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[quote]bluewolv1970 wrote...

[quote]RaggieRags wrote...

[quote]crimzontearz wrote...

I have it in my PM Box...but here is the quote

Brenon Holmes
08:41 AM 2012-03-19 Hmm, so Bjorn is back - asked about some of that stuff. Turns out your suspicions were correct - you can't get enough assets with the main game alone to get that additional secret bit. He says in order to get enough you do need to engage in one of the side games (MP, Facebook or IOS thingie).[/quote]

[/quote]

I don't know what all this is about, but I can tell you what it smells like.

*sigh* I miss the days when Bioware's marketting tactic was just to make great games people want to play, not to play games with their customers...

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So who wants to bet that Bioware close the thread that was started with that info, direct them over here and then carry on ignoring this thread*.



*  apologies to Bioware if you are reading this but your lack of input is beginning to make me think we are being sent over here and left to it! 

Ignoring this problem won't make it right or make it go away.  Problem is you have made a series of games that we have all bought into both financially and emotionally so I can't see us all just shrugging our shoulders and saying it doesn't matter!

Please acknowledge this problem or at least tell us you are looking into it....  doesn't seem a lot to ask.....

Modifié par CG Drum, 18 avril 2012 - 02:50 .


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Lalalandia wrote...

Well I got a reply to my PM from Thomas Abrams and he is apparently attempting another playthrough to try and achieve > 4000 EMS but as he notes it might take days or weeks. I appreciate that for someone like Thomas Abram game testing is something he is doing as an aside to his community role and thus must be placed below his actual day job as a priority. The question is why can't BW assign a tester to do this? They must have testers who can speed run the game and get 100% on the fetch quests inside a week.

The alleged dev comment from the chap who is responsible for the WA in BW is deeply troubling. I think I smell cross promotional BS as the reason we have to play MP/bloody apps.


that is a complete load of garbage, with all due respect...all he has to do is data mine the files like dozens of players have done already or just shout across desks to Brennon Holmes and ask him to find out it cnanot be done at all... I mean do the developers even talk  with one another???  

Modifié par bluewolv1970, 18 avril 2012 - 02:55 .


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bluewolv1970 wrote...

Lalalandia wrote...

Well I got a reply to my PM from Thomas Abrams and he is apparently attempting another playthrough to try and achieve > 4000 EMS but as he notes it might take days or weeks. I appreciate that for someone like Thomas Abram game testing is something he is doing as an aside to his community role and thus must be placed below his actual day job as a priority. The question is why can't BW assign a tester to do this? They must have testers who can speed run the game and get 100% on the fetch quests inside a week.

The alleged dev comment from the chap who is responsible for the WA in BW is deeply troubling. I think I smell cross promotional BS as the reason we have to play MP/bloody apps.


that is a complete load of garbage, with all due respect...all he has to do is data mine the files like dozens of players have done already or just shout across desks to Brennon Holmes and ask him to find out it cnanot be done at all... I mean due the developers even take with one another???  


I agree and seriously are they saying that they don't know what assets are in the game? - they have to play it through.  

No one thought..."hey war assets are a big factor lets make sure they work, list them out and all the various patterns of getting them"..... Really??????


Edit ... thinking about that last question, obviously no one did that or we wouldn't be in this mess!:(

Modifié par CG Drum, 18 avril 2012 - 03:06 .


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Lalalandia wrote...

Well I got a reply to my PM from Thomas Abrams and he is apparently attempting another playthrough to try and achieve > 4000 EMS but as he notes it might take days or weeks. I appreciate that for someone like Thomas Abram game testing is something he is doing as an aside to his community role and thus must be placed below his actual day job as a priority. The question is why can't BW assign a tester to do this? They must have testers who can speed run the game and get 100% on the fetch quests inside a week.

The alleged dev comment from the chap who is responsible for the WA in BW is deeply troubling. I think I smell cross promotional BS as the reason we have to play MP/bloody apps.

Or they made a mistake, from the sound of it you can get really close to 4,000 EMS, so if something was taken out at the last minute then the need to get to 4,000 could have been lost in the chaos of trying to get everything finished. 

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Nomen Mendax wrote...

Lalalandia wrote...

Well I got a reply to my PM from Thomas Abrams and he is apparently attempting another playthrough to try and achieve > 4000 EMS but as he notes it might take days or weeks. I appreciate that for someone like Thomas Abram game testing is something he is doing as an aside to his community role and thus must be placed below his actual day job as a priority. The question is why can't BW assign a tester to do this? They must have testers who can speed run the game and get 100% on the fetch quests inside a week.

The alleged dev comment from the chap who is responsible for the WA in BW is deeply troubling. I think I smell cross promotional BS as the reason we have to play MP/bloody apps.

Or they made a mistake, from the sound of it you can get really close to 4,000 EMS, so if something was taken out at the last minute then the need to get to 4,000 could have been lost in the chaos of trying to get everything finished. 


and yet they ignore and deny it going on two months now, while telling us they are listening - pathetic...  

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bluewolv1970 wrote...

Nomen Mendax wrote...

Lalalandia wrote...
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Or they made a mistake, from the sound of it you can get really close to 4,000 EMS, so if something was taken out at the last minute then the need to get to 4,000 could have been lost in the chaos of trying to get everything finished. 


and yet they ignore and deny it going on two months now, while telling us they are listening - pathetic...  

I don't have any rational explanation for their terrible PR ...

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And I couldn't recommend trying to understand it, like contemplating the face of Cthulu that way madness lies.....

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Lalalandia wrote...

And I couldn't recommend trying to understand it, like contemplating the face of Cthulu that way madness lies.....


"Contemplating the face of Cthulu" would bring an end quicker and less painfully though...

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Just checking in here...has anyone from Bioware addressed this yet?

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BeefoTheBold wrote...

Just checking in here...has anyone from Bioware addressed this yet?

Not officially, but we've had messages confirming it is not possible (from the guy who implemented it no less) and a few confirming it is possible but with no proof

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Krogangreetings wrote...

BeefoTheBold wrote...

Just checking in here...has anyone from Bioware addressed this yet?

Not officially, but we've had messages confirming it is not possible (from the guy who implemented it no less) and a few confirming it is possible but with no proof


Gracias. Appreciate the response.

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No worries

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This whole thing is a joke.
 
So many of us from the first week ME3 was out have been saying it's not possible to get 4000EMS from Single player only.

And all we've had from Bioware is a load of ........Lock down thread - We are not lying - Lock down thread-You can get 4000EMS - Lock Down thread

It's just insulting that they can't even be bothered with this. I think they've forgotten that Mass Effect was a single player franchise.


And no I don't play multiplayer, I DON'T LIKE IT, and no I don't own an iphone or an ipad.

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Lalalandia wrote...

Well I got a reply to my PM from Thomas Abrams and he is apparently attempting another playthrough to try and achieve > 4000 EMS but as he notes it might take days or weeks. I appreciate that for someone like Thomas Abram game testing is something he is doing as an aside to his community role and thus must be placed below his actual day job as a priority. The question is why can't BW assign a tester to do this? They must have testers who can speed run the game and get 100% on the fetch quests inside a week.

The alleged dev comment from the chap who is responsible for the WA in BW is deeply troubling. I think I smell cross promotional BS as the reason we have to play MP/bloody apps.



Actually there is no need for him to play through the entire game or trilogy. There is a few ways to do this in under an hour

First, if Thomas Abrams' first game crossed 8k TMS, all he needs to do is post his screen shot and show if he has any promoted characters. That should be under the Alliance tab. We can minus off the promoted characters manually, ignore the war readiness and EMS and focus purely on TMS. The number for each section can then be looked at to see whioch one is going over anything we have. For example, Alien tab max is 1000, so if he has 1100, we just need to look at the alien tab.

Second method is to use the savegame editor and change the flags and variables as needed (such as Wrex alive oor dead, etc). The disadvantage here is that some people will blame the savegame editor but this method just requires running the cerebrus base and london, both of which is a fast game on casual (or maybe even narrative, never tried that mode)