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[CG Drum]

I don't care how Bioware "fix" this issue - I just wish they had the bottle to come on to this thread and talk to us about it.

They could have easily diffused the issue by letting us know that they are aware of it and addressing it and yet seem to have decided that ignoring this issue will be the best way to keep their customers sweet. Amazing customer care - and not in a good way!

[Daramatis]

Krogangreetings wrote...

Gtacatalina wrote...


Has anyone managed to get the N7 Master and Commander achievement playing single player only?

'Deliver most of the galaxy at war assets to the final conflict'

I've done all side quests N7 missions etc, but haven't managed to get the achievement. Just wondering if this is connected to the problem of reaching 4000EMS.

nope I didn't get it but both my friends who played mp as they both are not the type to ever finish games just play the online got it one of them didn't even import a file as he's never finished ME2 or even played ME1 

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Excellent - so now we have Achievements we can't get either!!!

I just checked, and nope, I didn't get it.

So MP is the ONLY way to get that Achievement?

So what does it matter, we spend over 100 hours of our lives in SP to try to complete something that we can't possibly complete - and someone else can achieve by playing MP for a few hours?  Is that what is happening?

What I don't understand about the "economic model" being driven by EA - DLC and microtransactions are all well-and-good for continuing revenue streams, but they have to get customers (I don't believe they think of us as "gamers") to buy the core game first.

This below-standard product (for a Bioware game, with face import issues at the start, EMS at the end, as well as the endings controversy) is undermining the core foundation of their client base - alienating the gamers who supported Bioware, built a relationship with them through many great games and expansions over many years.

Are we so taken for granted that whomever makes the management decisions really thinks all of this is the best way to treat their customers, retain that core foundation?

I'm not merely a demographic; I'm an intelligent rational person who'se not going to be exploited - I want what I paid for.

Bioware - the EMS problem needs to be addressed or it quite simply does constitute a breach of contract and misrepresentation of the product before sale.

[jakenou]

I went into end-game with somewhere around 3500-3600 EMS with current import. This was a ME1>ME2>ME3 Shepard. I realized after the fact that I didn't do the Kasumi and possibly Shadow Broker DLC in ME2 for this particular import, since it was the first Shep I played in ME2. I did absolutely everything possible in SP in ME3 - at least from what I could find (100% in each system, all N7 missions, all eavesdropping etc.)...

Point being that someone starting a brand new character in ME3 couldn't possibly get close to 4000 EMS in SP alone, which seems to me like a very limited outcome for the ending. Doesn't seem fair to new players, and seems just as unfair for long time players who simply want to play everything within the game - just like we did in the first two games.

Considering this and the fact that I felt like I sat through about half the game doing nothing but watching the gorgeous cinematics... well, thanks for that half a game I guess?

[jakenou]

Daramatis wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

Gtacatalina wrote...


Has anyone managed to get the N7 Master and Commander achievement playing single player only?

'Deliver most of the galaxy at war assets to the final conflict'...

nope I didn't get it but both my friends who played mp as they both are not the type to ever finish games just play the online got it one of them didn't even import a file as he's never finished ME2 or even played ME1 

!

Excellent - so now we have Achievements we can't get either!!!

I just checked, and nope, I didn't get it.

So MP is the ONLY way to get that Achievement?

So what does it matter, we spend over 100 hours of our lives in SP to try to complete something that we can't possibly complete - and someone else can achieve by playing MP for a few hours?  Is that what is happening?...

I've also heard that the Defender achievement - Attain the highest level of readiness in each theater of war - is impossible without MP? Has anybody gotten this with SP only?

Modifié par jkthunder, 22 avril 2012 - 05:28 .

[abaris]

Daramatis wrote...

I'm not merely a demographic; I'm an intelligent rational person who'se not going to be exploited - I want what I paid for.

Yet you are.

From their market analysis standpoint you're nothing but a demographic. And numerous quotes, mainly by EA brass, have made it very clear they're out to milk a different cow. They probably expect more than enough revenue from casual gamers doing micro transactions to no longer care about any given fanbase, except for one: They crave for the COD crowd.

And future games, regardless by which studio under their wing, will probably mirror exactly that.

[Ravennus]

So still nothing new on this? *sigh*

[dtroyer]

No, you cannot get the "Defender" title without multiplayer time. This is why i will never buy Origin again if they wish to continue this total violation of SINGLE vs. MULTI player game.
Go back to school game maker, learn the definition of SINGLE PLAYER vs MULTIPLAYER games!!!

[Krogangreetings]

yup both "Master and Commander" & "Defender" are unobtainable through single player without the apps confirmed on true achievements

most achievements have a single plater option and a generally easier multiplayer option (Lv 60 SP vs Lv 20 MP for example) but these 2 have no alternative

not that it's anything odd games always have multiplayer only achievements

Modifié par Krogangreetings, 22 avril 2012 - 06:16 .

[Daramatis]

abaris wrote...

Daramatis wrote...

I'm not merely a demographic; I'm an intelligent rational person who'se not going to be exploited - I want what I paid for.

Yet you are.

From their market analysis standpoint you're nothing but a demographic. And numerous quotes, mainly by EA brass, have made it very clear they're out to milk a different cow. They probably expect more than enough revenue from casual gamers doing micro transactions to no longer care about any given fanbase, except for one: They crave for the COD crowd.

And future games, regardless by which studio under their wing, will probably mirror exactly that.

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear...

"I'm not merely a demographic..."

Oh, I understand completely that from one department of any given profit-oriented entity I'm a demographic, a statisitc.

Goodwill and brand loyalty are intangible assets that are subjectively quantified at best, but still represent an important asset to any company.

Losing this loyalty usually takes quite a bit of effort, but the compound effect of all that has happened with ME3 seems to be eroding this foundation.

If all "they" want is a "COD customer" then I suppose all of this is doing me a favour - effectively showing me the door and saying they don't want my custom any more.  It means my relatively high disposable income statistic can go elsewhere, support smaller studios that will cater for my style - and have no doubt this will happen - it has happened before, where the disillusioned creators of the games, the people putting in the hard work, haveleft and banded together to escape the shackles imposed by remote management.

I'll be there to support them with my £.

Anyway, this is woefully off-topic! 

I still hope to hear something official about the EMS problem so I can complete this game at least - probably the last one I'll be buying from BW, sadly.

[Scarlet434]

Here are the war assets I got before starting the Act 3 Priority Earth mission.  I don't know if you can get any more War Assets after that...  I did MP to get to 100%, otherwise I wouldn't have achieved the 4000+ ems to get the best ending. (red ending for me)

With an ME1/ME2 import.  I did all the DLC missions except, "Bring down the sky" for ME1. Destroyed the Collector's base, Maelon's data in ME2. Only Zaaed wasn't loyal. I played as mostly paragon so I couldn't betray Wrex, but I did make peace with Geth/Quarians.

Since I can't figure how to post a picture here it is in text:

Alien - 849
Alliance - 1566
Asari - 643
Crucible - 720
Ex-Cerberus - 250
Krogan - 820
Geth - 810
Salarian - 153
Turian - 628
Quarian - 525

Total 6964
without MP 6964 / 50% = 3482

[abaris]

Daramatis wrote...

I still hope to hear something official about the EMS problem so I can complete this game at least - probably the last one I'll be buying from BW, sadly.

But you won't. Only if they decide to fix that problem will they say anything.

Otherwise they're hoping this will blow over like all the other issues. That's the most basic and cheapest way of doing PR: Sit it out. And sadly, most of the time, it works.

[jakenou]

Krogangreetings wrote...

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not that it's anything odd games always have multiplayer only achievements

What's odd is that I feel like I was led to think that I could play ME3 in it's entirety without having to play anything outside of the actual single player core game.

ME3 is largely a single player game, with an added multiplayer component. Similar to other games that are single player at their core (Assassin's Creed for example) - With games like this it is expected to not have to play anything other than single player for the full experience, including all achievement options. It's not odd to have multiplayer only achievements in primarily multiplayer games.

[OMTING52601]

there's no way to get 4000 EMS without MP, but depending on what assets you bring into ME 3, you can just squeak by the 3750 needed for Master and Commander. The caveat? You'll need those 100 mineral import points. Without them, you're screwed.

[AlanC9]

Scarlet434 wrote...

Here are the war assets I got before starting the Act 3 Priority Earth mission.  I don't know if you can get any more War Assets after that...  I did MP to get to 100%, otherwise I wouldn't have achieved the 4000+ ems to get the best ending. (red ending for me)

With an ME1/ME2 import.  I did all the DLC missions except, "Bring down the sky" for ME1. Destroyed the Collector's base, Maelon's data in ME2. Only Zaaed wasn't loyal. I played as mostly paragon so I couldn't betray Wrex, but I did make peace with Geth/Quarians.

Since I can't figure how to post a picture here it is in text:

Alien - 849
Alliance - 1566
Asari - 643
Crucible - 720
Ex-Cerberus - 250
Krogan - 820
Geth - 810
Salarian - 153
Turian - 628
Quarian - 525

Total 6964
without MP 6964 / 50% = 3482

This looks a little shot, but not much. I believe that betraying Wrex does not actually end up maximizing WA (Wreav's another matter).

Modifié par AlanC9, 22 avril 2012 - 09:31 .

[tbb033]

coolbeans wrote...

Arsenic Touch wrote...

coolbeans wrote...



I dont have a lot to add today, so I thought I'd post the creative process for the DA3 endings

4 coloured endings? hey, it's an improvement.

Apparently they're listening to our feedback, nighty night chaps, fight the good fight

Does the unicorn show up 5 mins before the credits roll?

[Daramatis]

tbb033 wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

Arsenic Touch wrote...

coolbeans wrote...



I dont have a lot to add today, so I thought I'd post the creative process for the DA3 endings

4 coloured endings? hey, it's an improvement.

Apparently they're listening to our feedback, nighty night chaps, fight the good fight

Does the unicorn show up 5 mins before the credits roll?

Yeah, there was a tiny origami unicorn sticking out of Shepard's shirt pocket - maybe he's...*gasp*...synthetic!

(ref. Blade Runner = how to pull off an ambiguous ending).

Hello Bioware, please can you let us know the state of play of the EMS issue?

[Warbuckaz]

SHilton75 wrote...

Not sure why so many people are opposed to multiplayer. It's coop and easy to get your readiness to 100%. Hell, if you gather all the points, you don't even need to get to 100%. I didn't think I would like the MP, but after getting used to it I try to do a couple matches each night. More if it's with friends.

Its a nice option and it should have stay that way "AN OPTION!!!"

[Arsenic Touch]

Thanks for another day of silence Bioware.

[Andrew Bourne]

I've been maxing out since ME1 with my imports, and I got 7300-ish in my best playthrough. I am thoroughly pissed off at how everyone thinks that you HAVE to play multiplayer and other outside of SP mediums to get enough readiness.

[ParagonGreg]

Andrew Bourne wrote...

I've been maxing out since ME1 with my imports, and I got 7300-ish in my best playthrough. I am thoroughly pissed off at how everyone thinks that you HAVE to play multiplayer and other outside of SP mediums to get enough readiness.

You need 4000 EMS, not TMS.  That's my polite way of saying that you're wrong.

Modifié par ParagonGreg, 23 avril 2012 - 03:16 .

[voteDC]

Andrew Bourne wrote...

I've been maxing out since ME1 with my imports, and I got 7300-ish in my best playthrough. I am thoroughly pissed off at how everyone thinks that you HAVE to play multiplayer and other outside of SP mediums to get enough readiness.

Without multi-player or iPhone apps your Readiness is stuck at 50%.

This means that your Total Miliary Strength (TMS) is halved to create your Effective Military Strength (EMS).

So at 50% Readiness a TMS of 7300 will give you a EMS of 3650.

A score which is not high enough to see all available content during the game's ending, as short as that scene may be.

[Arsenic Touch]

Andrew Bourne wrote...

I've been maxing out since ME1 with my imports, and I got 7300-ish in my best playthrough. I am thoroughly pissed off at how everyone thinks that you HAVE to play multiplayer and other outside of SP mediums to get enough readiness.

The max amount of war assets(TMS - total military strength) in the game tops out around 7500ish.
EMS stands at 50% without multiplayer. Halving your TMS. Which will result in 3,000-3,700ish.
To obtain all single player content you need 4000 EMS if you chose to destroy the collector base in ME2.
To obtain all single player content you need 5000 EMS if you chose to keep the collector base in ME2.
These EMS numbers cannot be reached with single player alone. They require multiplayer to raise your readiness rating. The infiltrator game and Datapad app for iOS devices are an alternative to multiplayer to reach the required points.

Bioware clearly stated numerous times that neither multiplayer or the iOS apps would be required to enjoy all parts of single player.

(Keep in mind, the total war assets available in the game have been datamined from the game file themselves)

Your move, mr. thoroughly pissed off. Please dazzle and amaze us.

Modifié par Arsenic Touch, 23 avril 2012 - 03:19 .

[ParagonGreg]

Arsenic Touch wrote...

Andrew Bourne wrote...

I've been maxing out since ME1 with my imports, and I got 7300-ish in my best playthrough. I am thoroughly pissed off at how everyone thinks that you HAVE to play multiplayer and other outside of SP mediums to get enough readiness.

The max amount of war assets(TMS - total military strength) in the game tops out around 7500ish.
EMS stands at 50% without multiplayer. Halving your TMS. Which will result in 3,000-3,700ish.
To obtain all single player content you need 4000 EMS if you chose to destroy the collector base in ME2.
To obtain all single player content you need 5000 EMS if you chose to keep the collector base in ME2.
These EMS numbers cannot be reached with single player alone. They require multiplayer to raise your readiness rating. The infiltrator game and Datapad app for iOS devices are an alternative to multiplayer to reach the required points.

Bioware clearly stated numerous times that neither multiplayer or the iOS apps would be required to enjoy all parts of single player.

(Keep in mind, the total war assets available in the game have been datamined from the game file themselves)

Your move, mr. thoroughly pissed off. Please dazzle and amaze us.

Oh snap.  You just got served.

[Tietj]

Andrew's post was one of the more hilarious ones I've read that was confused about the EMS/TMS thing. Everyone get out their shot glasses, it's been a while...

Actually, there are fewer and fewer people disagreeing. As there should be as more and more are aware of this problem. And still no response.

[Madecologist]

Tietj wrote...

Andrew's post was one of the more hilarious ones I've read that was confused about the EMS/TMS thing. Everyone get out their shot glasses, it's been a while...

Actually, there are fewer and fewer people disagreeing. As there should be as more and more are aware of this problem. And still no response.

You do know why there is no response? Which is rather sad really.