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[Ravennus]

Andrew Bourne wrote...

Alright, that's what I meant, that green bar said 7000 something. Looking at it right now, the actual numbers next to the categories (Alliance, Ex-Cerberus, etc.) is not adding up to that 7000 from what I'm seeing. Again, my mistake, sorry about my attitude and ignorance. Not an experienced threader/forum-er/whatever (hell, my first post was yesterday), so it's good I catch myself now, rather than later. I hope there is room for forgiveness in everyone's hearts and minds for me, hopefully there are no hard feelings.

Much appreciated, Andrew.  Honest mistake and it's a rare thing to admit to when you find out your are wrong.

EDIT: The next ranting bit isn't aimed at you Andrew, so please don't take it personally.  We all make mistakes and a few show great character when they can admit them, as you did.


On a related note... I'm actually starting to be really bothered by the amount of players that are blatantly calling us idiots out there all the while saying that they've done it easily and that we just haven't tried hard enough.

We get it here occasionally, but everyone jumps on it quickly enough and we are all civil enough to show people the error of their ways like Andrew here.
But I spend a lot of time on the multiplayer boards, and it came up in a thread that started because someone was a MP newbie and wanted help because they were only playing to get enough EMS for the best ending.

More than a few people jumped in saying it was possible, that they got over 7800 TMS on a playthrough with 'poor choices', and other such garbage.  Others were mistaking EMS with TMS, like usual.
I try to educate them and it's useless.  I'm the idiot.

God, I hate the internet sometimes....

It reminds me of certain people's reaction to the backlash of the ending... and bioware's own reaction.... that we just don't get it.  As if we are retarded fools.


Sure, debate the ending (even though, from a literary standpoint, it's about as cut-and-dry awful as you can get).

But this CANNOT BE DEBATED.  There is no question here.
I don't understand why some people still call us stupid or think we just aren't doing it right.

THE GAME FILES DO NOT LIE. THE CODE DOES NOT LIE.

With ONLY singleplayer... NO MULTIPLAYER... NO APPS... NO GAWLDARN PROMOTING...
THERE IS NO WAY to get the 'breath' scene!!!


Why still no word on this?

I had some hope when certain EA/Bioware employees started answering our PMs, but that was dashed when they proved that they are doing exactly the opposite of what they keep saying they are doing.... NOT LISTENING.


I'm seriously to the point I want to pull my hair out over this cow excrement, and the friggin' trolls and loudly uneducated people aren't helping.

I think I need a break from BSN.... *sigh*

[Tietj]

Has anyone heard from Thomas Abram lately? He seemed to be our best hope but lately he's kind of fallen off the grid.

[Ravennus]

Tietj wrote...

Has anyone heard from Thomas Abram lately? He seemed to be our best hope but lately he's kind of fallen off the grid.

I stopped hearing from him after he told me that Jerret Lee's sticky was removed by a 'random server hiccup' and that he would maybe be looking into our issue further in a few weeks.
Mind you, this was right after he closed a number of related EMS threads and even stated publically that the 4000+ EMS ending was possible with just Single Player.  He said this after he recieved all the information we had sent him, including a spreadsheet that I sent which included every single war asset from the retail version of the game we were shipped.

I was hopeful as well, but at the moment I'm disappointed.

[Gtacatalina]

Ravennus wrote...

I was hopeful as well, but at the moment I'm disappointed.

This is how I feel to

[coolbeans]

Tietj wrote...

Has anyone heard from Thomas Abram lately? He seemed to be our best hope but lately he's kind of fallen off the grid.

I lost faith when his response to my question regarding the possibility was

"I did it"

Which we all know now was a porky pie, as he apparantly wasn't playing Biowares supa dupa staff edition, with non speculative endings and extra war assets <_<

[Daramatis]

Ravennus wrote...

Sure, debate the ending (even though, from a literary standpoint, it's about as cut-and-dry awful as you can get).

But this CANNOT BE DEBATED.  There is no question here.
I don't understand why some people still call us stupid or think we just aren't doing it right.

THE GAME FILES DO NOT LIE. THE CODE DOES NOT LIE.

With ONLY singleplayer... NO MULTIPLAYER... NO APPS... NO GAWLDARN PROMOTING...
THERE IS NO WAY to get the 'breath' scene!!!

This is getting to me too - the endings situation is subjective, unquantifiable, open to debate from different points of view (and had a 4-odd hour meeting at the weekend to hash out the direction, if I read other threads correctly).

This *here*, the EMS situation isn't - it is quantifiable, mechanical, based on a black and white yes or no answer.  Ok, it is made more complex by mutually exclusive assets, but it is still numerically based - there is no point of view, merely hard empirical evidence, one way or another - I'm still open to being wrong about not being able to achieve 4,000 EMS, but I want it proved; I want to be shown the error of my ways.

But most of all, I don't want to be ignored.

[CG Drum]

Tietj wrote...

Has anyone heard from Thomas Abram lately? He seemed to be our best hope but lately he's kind of fallen off the grid.

Nothing here - sent him a pm 10 days ago, and then another a few days later but neither have been replied to. 

They really are making this hard work aren't they? 

Bioware could be working away on this for us but the fact that they can't be bothered to even reply to this thread suggests to me that they aren't . 

Fingers crossed I'm wrong - but if they are then why don't they just tell us - seems a great way to get fed up customers back on side.  Seems to me that their PR bod has decided that the best way to deal with this issue is to ignore it and hope it dies out.  The fact that this thread is still marching on and is now past the 70 page mark suggests to me that they need to rethink that approach and address the issue.

[DamonD7]

I think it's just low on the totem pole at the moment, considering all the Extended Cut focus and clearing up MP stuff like the Raptor reward packs or the Sony thing etc.

No doubt in my mind that this thread is correct, you can't reach 4000+ EMS without MP. It's just a case of when they get round to admitting it.

Also reading between the lines, it's really feels like this was something that was MEANT to be completely possible and that line was passed on to those that make the public statements for Bioware and/or EA to present as gospel fact. Only afterwards now is iit getting recognition that, uh-oh, it actually doesn't all add up.

I'd imagine that'd be frustrating, going to bat strongly for this without the whole picture.

Also frustrating for you guys having to wait on this, but...Hold The Line You've got the right conclusion on this, I believe.

[ZombieKiller218]

It may be low on the totem pole but I have to think the problem isn't that complicated to begin with. Just tweak a few numbers to get the total over 8000 and push it out. Not sure exactly what they have for patching software to distribute it but I have to think they have something present already because of the dlc.

[Simotech]

They can't be silent forever...right?

RIGHT?

[IanPolaris]

ZombieKiller218 wrote...

It may be low on the totem pole but I have to think the problem isn't that complicated to begin with. Just tweak a few numbers to get the total over 8000 and push it out. Not sure exactly what they have for patching software to distribute it but I have to think they have something present already because of the dlc.

This.  This is what's so infuriating.  If you play the game on PC, you can FIX the issue by setting your galactic readiness to 100% and never play multiplayer again (by doubling your assets) with less than an hour's work hacking your coalesced.bin file.  It's something a trained ape can do given just a few minutes of training.

Given that, the fact that this hasn't been fixed in over a month is simply inexcusable.

-Polaris

[LostHH]

IanPolaris wrote...

ZombieKiller218 wrote...

It may be low on the totem pole but I have to think the problem isn't that complicated to begin with. Just tweak a few numbers to get the total over 8000 and push it out. Not sure exactly what they have for patching software to distribute it but I have to think they have something present already because of the dlc.

This.  This is what's so infuriating.  If you play the game on PC, you can FIX the issue by setting your galactic readiness to 100% and never play multiplayer again (by doubling your assets) with less than an hour's work hacking your coalesced.bin file.  It's something a trained ape can do given just a few minutes of training.

Given that, the fact that this hasn't been fixed in over a month is simply inexcusable.

-Polaris

Less than a hours work lol, pc gaming master race indeed lol

[Szuli]

Right now it seems like they herded all the people interested in this issue here and suppressed all other signs everywhere else by locking down the other threads. This way it's easier to confine the issue to one thread and a relatively small group of people, so it's easier to ignore it. I hope I am wrong and I hope that they will come out with a patch, but who knows if and when that will happen. I can't imagine either that it would be so hard to just change some numbers. It's definitely not a priority for BW, but at least they could say something about it.

[Ericus]

I'd be satisfied if they fixed it as part of the Extended Cut DLC, since it really doesn't matter before then. But it would be great if they'd just let us know!

[Krogangreetings]

Tietj wrote...

Has anyone heard from Thomas Abram lately? He seemed to be our best hope but lately he's kind of fallen off the grid.

Not since I sent him the quote about it not being possible from the other mod

[FlyinElk212]

I'd be more inclined to believe this OP if someone actually fleshed out the "optimal choices" in order to achieve the highest total possible EMS w/o multiplayer. Simply seeing the totals of the fleets isn't cutting it for me (won't believe it til I see it, you know?).

I'd like to see something like, "Save the Council, because it gives you "x" amount more assets than letting them die", then putting all the "optimal choices" together to show the total highest war assets possible. Has anyone done this before, and if so, link?

[MaxQuartiroli]

I am pretty sure that every single dev in BW received instructions to not answer to this question anymore. At first instance they probably stated that the official answer had to be a generic "It's possible". Someone contravened this statement - probably by mistake - so the new guideline now must be "ignore them and give no answers at all".

They'll just wait for people to move on.. in few months SP DLC will provide enough WA to get those 4000 EMS. Meanwhile allmost players will manage to get them either by playing MP or by editing their saves and the number of players who will remain unable to get the breath ending scene will become smaller and smaller. Many of these players will also get tired to wait for an answer and will just give up and leave.

If they wanted to admit the mistake they probably would have done it a while ago. But this wasn't probably a mistake. This was a planned lie.

[royceclemens]

I am but a lowly console peasant, so if anyone could please provide me with instructions as to how to datamine the PC version of the game and what to look for? Like the conditions to get the highest score without multiplayer?

Please, it's very important, I'm... compiling something.

[AlanC9]

Szuli wrote...

Right now it seems like they herded all the people interested in this issue here and suppressed all other signs everywhere else by locking down the other threads. This way it's easier to confine the issue to one thread and a relatively small group of people, so it's easier to ignore it.

Or it could be, you know,  what Bioware always does with single-issue threads. You get a thread, but only one.  That's been standard practice here for months, if not for ever.

[bluewolv1970]

AlanC9 wrote...

Szuli wrote...

Right now it seems like they herded all the people interested in this issue here and suppressed all other signs everywhere else by locking down the other threads. This way it's easier to confine the issue to one thread and a relatively small group of people, so it's easier to ignore it.

Or it could be, you know,  what Bioware always does with single-issue threads. You get a thread, but only one.  That's been standard practice here for months, if not for ever.

so has misdirection, deceit and avoidance by Bioware employees regarding legitamite issues - 

[G00N3R7883]

Just want to say thank you to everyone who keeps posting in this thread and refusing to let the issue die. I don't have much time to dedicate to the cause, outside the odd post every few days. But we need it to be fixed for ME3 and we need Bioware/EA to realise we don't want this to happen again in future games.

[Szuli]

AlanC9 wrote...

Szuli wrote...

Right now it seems like they herded all the people interested in this issue here and suppressed all other signs everywhere else by locking down the other threads. This way it's easier to confine the issue to one thread and a relatively small group of people, so it's easier to ignore it.

Or it could be, you know,  what Bioware always does with single-issue threads. You get a thread, but only one.  That's been standard practice here for months, if not for ever.

That's fine, but they still have not officially reacted to this issue or posted in this thread, so it does seem like they are actively ignoring it. At the same time they do have the time to monitor and lock down other, similar threads.

[bluewolv1970]

Szuli wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Szuli wrote...

Right now it seems like they herded all the people interested in this issue here and suppressed all other signs everywhere else by locking down the other threads. This way it's easier to confine the issue to one thread and a relatively small group of people, so it's easier to ignore it.

Or it could be, you know,  what Bioware always does with single-issue threads. You get a thread, but only one.  That's been standard practice here for months, if not for ever.

That's fine, but they still have not officially reacted to this issue or posted in this thread, so it does seem like they are actively ignoring it. At the same time they do have the time to monitor and lock down other, similar threads.

Remember this thread the next time Bioware says "We are listening"

[ZombieKiller218]

Squallypo wrote...

RX_Sean_XI wrote...

DaewaNya wrote...

RX_Sean_XI wrote...

DaewaNya wrote...

i got more than 5000 with a ME1+ME2 save, so yes.

You have to remember that without playing multiplayer your EFFECTIVENESS is halved.

So you need 8000 total without multiplayer to get the "best" ending which was crap anyways.



I recommend Gibbed's ME3 edtior, and if you are on 360 then you need Horizon (or Modio, whatever you prefer but Horizon is better) as well.
Also, Bioware allows 360 modding discussions (and tutorials, look at sig) unlike some other companies *cough* Bethesda *cough*

Ok I might be wrong then. But my first playthrought was without multiplayer and I took the green ending. Didn't have shep breath though.

Shep's breath is only from Destroy (hence a lot of the early Indo Theories) and you have to have at least 4000 effective assets, without multiplayer at all you need a total of 8000.


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To anyone who wants to find Gibbed's Mass Effect 3 Editor go here

360 users will also need Horizon (I prefer that one anyways)

360 quick tutorial:
1. Move ME3 save to USB
2. Plug USB into PC
3. Open Horizon
4. Find your save and drag to desktop
5. Drag save into blank (in the middle) area of Horizon
6. Go to content and extract (right click) your save (Save_0001)
7. Open in Gibbed's Editor
8. Edit, then save when done
9. Replace your save (the Save_0001) in content with the new one (again right-click)
10. Save Rehash Resign, then drag back to USB

im gonna try this thanks

Found this posted earlier in the thread. Might help for xbox users in the mean time while we wait for word from Bioware

[girl666demon]

I use a cheat (PC) from Cheathappens.com. and it works.