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[Queenie4000]

 I've been following (lurking more like ) since my first playthrough in hopes of any new info about this.  I know nothing new has come out but I was wondering if I listed here or PM'd someone here my exact totals for EMS and give a list of all decisons from previous games - would that help at all?  I followed the Game Guide to a "T" and completed all side, hub and N7 missions.  Or is it better to to just continue to follow here and hope and pray for fix?

Thx!

Edit:  I also realize others have listed totals and gone so far as to post a wonderful spreadsheet but I didn't know if one more person would help matters or not.

Modifié par Queenie4000, 24 avril 2012 - 04:18 .

[Krogangreetings]

Queenie4000 wrote...

 I've been following (lurking more like ) since my first playthrough in hopes of any new info about this.  I know nothing new has come out but I was wondering if I listed here or PM'd someone here my exact totals for EMS and give a list of all decisons from previous games - would that help at all?  I followed the Game Guide to a "T" and completed all side, hub and N7 missions.  Or is it better to to just continue to follow here and hope and pray for fix?

Thx!

Edit:  I also realize others have listed totals and gone so far as to post a wonderful spreadsheet but I didn't know if one more person would help matters or not.

It wouldn't hurt, I don't think it'll spur them to action by any means

but if you don't mind taking the time to do it it'll at least be more proof for us all

[Queenie4000]

@Krogangreetings - so post it here, make a seperate thread PM? Which do you thing is better. I know it might get buried but at least I will feel like I did do something.

[formshifter]

I'd like to ask, could someone send a link to the list of choices that gives the "optimal" 7550 TMS?

I've played MP to have readiness at 100% anyway, but it seems like it would be an interesting playthrough (even if you DID have to play ME1 5-6 times w/ a character and ME2 3 times to get it), since it's a mix of things. Plus, I'd like to see for myself this "perfect playthrough".

Also, a PM of Gibbed's save editor! I heard it was the best for PC, and it'd be nice to be able to play around with things, especially with choices I couldn't make while playing. There are some things that, even w/ role-playing, I can't do in the game.
lol

[MaxQuartiroli]

AlanC9 wrote...

Szuli wrote...

Right now it seems like they herded all the people interested in this issue here and suppressed all other signs everywhere else by locking down the other threads. This way it's easier to confine the issue to one thread and a relatively small group of people, so it's easier to ignore it.

Or it could be, you know,  what Bioware always does with single-issue threads. You get a thread, but only one.  That's been standard practice here for months, if not for ever.

What about those 92648248 threads related to the ending then?
It seems to me that this rule is applied only to uncomfortable issues.. like this one.

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 24 avril 2012 - 05:48 .

[AlanC9]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Szuli wrote...

Right now it seems like they herded all the people interested in this issue here and suppressed all other signs everywhere else by locking down the other threads. This way it's easier to confine the issue to one thread and a relatively small group of people, so it's easier to ignore it.

Or it could be, you know,  what Bioware always does with single-issue threads. You get a thread, but only one.  That's been standard practice here for months, if not for ever.

What about those 92648248 threads related to the ending then?
It seems to me that this rule is applied only to uncomfortable issues.. like this one.

Yo\\u mean the ending threads weren't uncomfortable for Bio?

[MaxQuartiroli]

AlanC9 wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Szuli wrote...

Right now it seems like they herded all the people interested in this issue here and suppressed all other signs everywhere else by locking down the other threads. This way it's easier to confine the issue to one thread and a relatively small group of people, so it's easier to ignore it.

Or it could be, you know,  what Bioware always does with single-issue threads. You get a thread, but only one.  That's been standard practice here for months, if not for ever.

What about those 92648248 threads related to the ending then?
It seems to me that this rule is applied only to uncomfortable issues.. like this one.

You mean the ending threads weren't uncomfortable for Bio?

They are both uncomfortable issues but in a different way.
No matter what will happen with the endings it's still how they planned them. And they can always justify themselves with "artistic integrity". 
It's not like to aknowledge a gross mistake or, perhaps, a lie. Because you cannot justify it. 

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 24 avril 2012 - 06:26 .

[jakenou]

AHA! Apparently there is a way to achieve enough EMS (4000+) in SP for the so-called "best possible ending". First - play Mass Effect 1 enough times so that you have gotten 100% achievements and a maxed out Paragon with a level 60 finished game. Should only take about 100 hours or so to get there. Then - import that career into Mass Effect 2 and proceed to level up to the max, gain all achievements, play all DLC and make sure everyone is alive and well by the end (also have all available minerals scanned and collected!). The crucial thing in ME2 is to make sure you also buy up all the fish for the aquarium in your quarters, and then show Kelly Chambers a good time so she won't let your fish die (Hope you aren't squeamish if you're a heterosexual femshep! And if you're a manshep who wasn't attracted to Kelly and has a high degree of morality, well you're just gonna have to take one for the team). Only another 50 - 100 hours to get this all set. Import this save into ME3 and keep that prejak paddlefish alive by getting the aquarium VI... and POOF. There it is - a bonus war asset bringing your pathetic -4000 EMS up to par!




Edit: ^ Above post meant as sarcastic irony and is not based on any fact whatsoever

Modifié par jkthunder, 24 avril 2012 - 06:36 .

[jakenou]

Oh, and this: http://crave.cnet.co...story-50007624/

(might be old news, but it seems worth a repost since it sums this ordeal up rather well)

Modifié par jkthunder, 24 avril 2012 - 06:32 .

[IanPolaris]

jkthunder wrote...

AHA! Apparently there is a way to achieve enough EMS (4000+) in SP for the so-called "best possible ending". First - play Mass Effect 1 enough times so that you have gotten 100% achievements and a maxed out Paragon with a level 60 finished game. Should only take about 100 hours or so to get there. Then - import that career into Mass Effect 2 and proceed to level up to the max, gain all achievements, play all DLC and make sure everyone is alive and well by the end (also have all available minerals scanned and collected!). The crucial thing in ME2 is to make sure you also buy up all the fish for the aquarium in your quarters, and then show Kelly Chambers a good time so she won't let your fish die (Hope you aren't squeamish if you're a heterosexual femshep! And if you're a manshep who wasn't attracted to Kelly and has a high degree of morality, well you're just gonna have to take one for the team). Only another 50 - 100 hours to get this all set. Import this save into ME3 and keep that prejak paddlefish alive by getting the aquarium VI... and POOF. There it is - a bonus war asset bringing your pathetic -4000 EMS up to par!

Wrong.  This doesn't work.  This is how you get to the 7500ish War Assets.  There aren't enough War Assets in the game to get the best SP ending on SP alone (without hacking your game).  That's a simple and hopefully by now incontravertable fact.

-Polaris

[Arsenic Touch]

jkthunder wrote...

AHA! Apparently there is a way to achieve enough EMS (4000+) in SP for the so-called "best possible ending". First - play Mass Effect 1 enough times so that you have gotten 100% achievements and a maxed out Paragon with a level 60 finished game. Should only take about 100 hours or so to get there. Then - import that career into Mass Effect 2 and proceed to level up to the max, gain all achievements, play all DLC and make sure everyone is alive and well by the end (also have all available minerals scanned and collected!). The crucial thing in ME2 is to make sure you also buy up all the fish for the aquarium in your quarters, and then show Kelly Chambers a good time so she won't let your fish die (Hope you aren't squeamish if you're a heterosexual femshep! And if you're a manshep who wasn't attracted to Kelly and has a high degree of morality, well you're just gonna have to take one for the team). Only another 50 - 100 hours to get this all set. Import this save into ME3 and keep that prejak paddlefish alive by getting the aquarium VI... and POOF. There it is - a bonus war asset bringing your pathetic -4000 EMS up to par!

wrong. The paddlefish is not worth any war assets, it adds a 10% damage or power bonus.

[jakenou]

IanPolaris wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

AHA! Apparently there is a way to achieve enough EMS (4000+) in SP for the so-called "best possible ending". First - play Mass Effect 1 enough times so that you have gotten 100% achievements and a maxed out Paragon with a level 60 finished game. Should only take about 100 hours or so to get there. Then - import that career into Mass Effect 2 and proceed to level up to the max, gain all achievements, play all DLC and make sure everyone is alive and well by the end (also have all available minerals scanned and collected!). The crucial thing in ME2 is to make sure you also buy up all the fish for the aquarium in your quarters, and then show Kelly Chambers a good time so she won't let your fish die (Hope you aren't squeamish if you're a heterosexual femshep! And if you're a manshep who wasn't attracted to Kelly and has a high degree of morality, well you're just gonna have to take one for the team). Only another 50 - 100 hours to get this all set. Import this save into ME3 and keep that prejak paddlefish alive by getting the aquarium VI... and POOF. There it is - a bonus war asset bringing your pathetic -4000 EMS up to par!

Wrong.  This doesn't work.  This is how you get to the 7500ish War Assets.  There aren't enough War Assets in the game to get the best SP ending on SP alone (without hacking your game).  That's a simple and hopefully by now incontravertable fact.

-Polaris

I hope you realize I was being sarcastic and mocking all the loops you have to jump through to get EMS up. Frankly, I have no idea how much or if the paddlefish gives any extra war assets at all. Just thought it was a ridiculous and funny irony to add to the mess

[Warbuckaz]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

I'd be more inclined to believe this OP if someone actually fleshed out the "optimal choices" in order to achieve the highest total possible EMS w/o multiplayer. Simply seeing the totals of the fleets isn't cutting it for me (won't believe it til I see it, you know?).

I'd like to see something like, "Save the Council, because it gives you "x" amount more assets than letting them die", then putting all the "optimal choices" together to show the total highest war assets possible. Has anyone done this before, and if so, link?

Its seem more like ever since they got wind of that one Dev spilling the beans that it isnt possible he stopped replying (or so I hear)....they've all retreated back to dark space.

[Swordfishtrombone]

Ridiculous that bioware still hasn't commented here.

To totally defuse this situation, ALL that would be needed is a simple message like:

"We have found that there are some planned war assets that did not make it into the final game. We will adress this issue in the next patch by [increasing the value of existing war assets / adding war assets / lowering the treshold EMS values / increasing the default readiness percentage]. We appologize for the confusion and the time it has taken for us to confirm this. We are very busy working on the Extended Edition and the next patch, and want to asure you that we are not ignoring this issue."

That is really all that we want. Not unreasonable, I think.

[jakenou]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

I'd be more inclined to believe this OP if someone actually fleshed out the "optimal choices" in order to achieve the highest total possible EMS w/o multiplayer. Simply seeing the totals of the fleets isn't cutting it for me (won't believe it til I see it, you know?).

I'd like to see something like, "Save the Council, because it gives you "x" amount more assets than letting them die", then putting all the "optimal choices" together to show the total highest war assets possible. Has anyone done this before, and if so, link?

I would also like to see this list. Very muchly. Data miners?

Modifié par jkthunder, 24 avril 2012 - 06:39 .

[Warbuckaz]

Regardless of the choices not mattering, bad endings, three colors or whatever you want to call it, THIS is exactly why letting ending be dictated by War Assets was a horrible idea!!! The “Major” plot choices and whether you were Paragon or Renegade should’ve always been driving force behind what ending you got. As Shakesphere would say - Bioware droppith thy ball. 

Modifié par Warbuckaz, 24 avril 2012 - 06:46 .

[Warbuckaz]

jkthunder wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

I'd be more inclined to believe this OP if someone actually fleshed out the "optimal choices" in order to achieve the highest total possible EMS w/o multiplayer. Simply seeing the totals of the fleets isn't cutting it for me (won't believe it til I see it, you know?).

I'd like to see something like, "Save the Council, because it gives you "x" amount more assets than letting them die", then putting all the "optimal choices" together to show the total highest war assets possible. Has anyone done this before, and if so, link?

I would also like to see this list. Very muchly. Data miners?

I've always liked this breakdown ------>  http://social.biowar.../index/10119654

[Cratto]

jkthunder wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

I'd be more inclined to believe this OP if someone actually fleshed out the "optimal choices" in order to achieve the highest total possible EMS w/o multiplayer. Simply seeing the totals of the fleets isn't cutting it for me (won't believe it til I see it, you know?).

I'd like to see something like, "Save the Council, because it gives you "x" amount more assets than letting them die", then putting all the "optimal choices" together to show the total highest war assets possible. Has anyone done this before, and if so, link?

I would also like to see this list. Very muchly. Data miners?

No need for data mining - Though there's plenty of examples. Try here: http://social.biowar...ndex/10119654/1 instead. Compiled by users of BSN. Matches up with wiki, data mining etc. No one has found the extra 500-1000 assets needed. Its a list of all war assets in ME3 with how you get them and how each is effected by decisions across the games.

There's also a guide that tells you how to get the most across all three games on this thread. Sorry I don't have to hand. But the total is about 7500.

Modifié par Cratto, 24 avril 2012 - 06:57 .

[IanPolaris]

jkthunder wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

AHA! Apparently there is a way to achieve enough EMS (4000+) in SP for the so-called "best possible ending". First - play Mass Effect 1 enough times so that you have gotten 100% achievements and a maxed out Paragon with a level 60 finished game. Should only take about 100 hours or so to get there. Then - import that career into Mass Effect 2 and proceed to level up to the max, gain all achievements, play all DLC and make sure everyone is alive and well by the end (also have all available minerals scanned and collected!). The crucial thing in ME2 is to make sure you also buy up all the fish for the aquarium in your quarters, and then show Kelly Chambers a good time so she won't let your fish die (Hope you aren't squeamish if you're a heterosexual femshep! And if you're a manshep who wasn't attracted to Kelly and has a high degree of morality, well you're just gonna have to take one for the team). Only another 50 - 100 hours to get this all set. Import this save into ME3 and keep that prejak paddlefish alive by getting the aquarium VI... and POOF. There it is - a bonus war asset bringing your pathetic -4000 EMS up to par!

Wrong.  This doesn't work.  This is how you get to the 7500ish War Assets.  There aren't enough War Assets in the game to get the best SP ending on SP alone (without hacking your game).  That's a simple and hopefully by now incontravertable fact.

-Polaris

I hope you realize I was being sarcastic and mocking all the loops you have to jump through to get EMS up. Frankly, I have no idea how much or if the paddlefish gives any extra war assets at all. Just thought it was a ridiculous and funny irony to add to the mess

Oh, sorry.  Sarcasm sometimes doesn't parse well on the forums.  The point is I have datamined the game, and the needed assets simply aren't there as others have shown explicitly.

-Polaris

[pprrff]

Well, see what he (Hudson) said is that you can get the golden ending without doing any MP, which is true, in some point of view. If he consider synthesis to the the golden ending, then you don't need any MP to unlock it. I think he thinks that Synthesis is 'golden ending' that he promised.

[IanPolaris]

pprrff wrote...

Well, see what he (Hudson) said is that you can get the golden ending without doing any MP, which is true, in some point of view. If he consider synthesis to the the golden ending, then you don't need any MP to unlock it. I think he thinks that Synthesis is 'golden ending' that he promised.

It wasn't what he said.  He said that you could get any ending without using multiplayer, MP was simply a different way to get there.  This is a bald faced lie.

-Polaris

[Chris Priestly]

As people have pointed out, Mike Gamble has said on his Twitter account that we are investigating this . When we have information on it, we will let everyone know.

You can also post this topic, if it has not already been posted, in the technical support forum for your platform.


LOCKDOWN!

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 24 avril 2012 - 08:41 .