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[wh00ley 06]

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[ericjdev]

This is bordering on hysteria. Some of you need to seriously get a grip on yourselves. There is zero evidence to support that BIoware or EA did anything wrong here.

[Myrmedus]

This is un-****ing-believable - and people bash us for being apparently "aggressive" or "hostile"?

Attacking a damn children's charity simply because they're indirectly involved with us - that's lowest of the low.

EDIT: I'm not saying it's BW or EA, but they do appear to have been getting hate mail - THAT'S the lowest of the low.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 23 mars 2012 - 12:26 .

[Golferguy758]

progammler wrote...

ericjdev wrote...

There is absolutely no evidence to support that EA or Bioware had anything to do with this. Throwing around baseless accusations like that is disgusting. That's not holding the line, it's crossing it.

this.

This right here is why a lot of you people get banned and thread lockedl. Bioware/EA are NOT evil kitten killing companies. STOP throwing aroudn baselss accusations. You just make yourselves out to be the fools.

Make me sick.

[Zebra3]

adam32867 wrote...

anyone who sends hate mail to a charity is disgusting.

THIS

For the record, I don't believe for an instant that either EA or Bioware had anything to do with this.

Modifié par Zebra3, 23 mars 2012 - 12:27 .

[Adugan]

 

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[Asclepus]

ericjdev wrote...

There is absolutely no evidence to support that EA or Bioware had anything to do with this. Throwing around baseless accusations like that is disgusting. That's not holding the line, it's crossing it.

Actually, by suggesting the possibility, it makes certain that EA and Bioware know that we are paying attention. I also noted in the message how it was pointed out that no one believed Penny Arcade was behind it either. Thus we have all fallen into a catch 22. Child's Play shut it down for some reason, be it outisde pressure, internal pressure or simply because they wanted nothing more to do with such eager donors. Logically, there must be some sort of conclusion drawn. It doesn't mean that anything sinister happened,  but we do need to keep an eye on these people (Ea/Bioware/Other outlets like Penny Arcade) very closely.

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[Aesieru]

Golferguy758 wrote...

progammler wrote...

ericjdev wrote...

There is absolutely no evidence to support that EA or Bioware had anything to do with this. Throwing around baseless accusations like that is disgusting. That's not holding the line, it's crossing it.

this.

This right here is why a lot of you people get banned and thread lockedl. Bioware/EA are NOT evil kitten killing companies. STOP throwing aroudn baselss accusations. You just make yourselves out to be the fools.

Make me sick.

You do realize that the reason people assume EA did it is because they've destroyed a lot of good game developer companies.

Westwood being just the first.

They even killed their own Dead Space brand's primary designers.

They've done a lot of BAD.

[Zoedoll]

randalbattalis wrote...

Woah shocking that penny arcade, the site that gets paid by Bioware to make comics for them, has openly been insulting the retake mass effect campaign then suddenly Child's Play, the charity operated by penny arcade, asked them to stop.

How shocking.

QFT. I've got a lot of issues with Penny Arcade anyway but if this is true it's the cherry on top of my dislike.

[Eloize]

It was supposed to end today. Go check the facebook web site

http://www.facebook....ngToMassEffect3

A new charity campaign will be announced soon. The Retake movement has done too much good to stop now.

It's not about furthering our goals, it's about doing something to help others.

I'll keep you all up to date.

[Kilshrek]

Basically says they were pressured to stop receiving donations from the movement, because of.. haters. What a surprise!

So, giving to charity in support of a cause is wrong and immoral. Pressuring a charity into refusing further donations is so right. I see the cold hard logic of it all.

[ericjdev]

Asclepus wrote...

ericjdev wrote...

There is absolutely no evidence to support that EA or Bioware had anything to do with this. Throwing around baseless accusations like that is disgusting. That's not holding the line, it's crossing it.

Actually, by suggesting the possibility, it makes certain that EA and Bioware know that we are paying attention. I also noted in the message how it was pointed out that no one believed Penny Arcade was behind it either. Thus we have all fallen into a catch 22. Child's Play shut it down for some reason, be it outisde pressure, internal pressure or simply because they wanted nothing more to do with such eager donors. Logically, there must be some sort of conclusion drawn. It doesn't mean that anything sinister happened,  but we do need to keep an eye on these people (Ea/Bioware/Other outlets like Penny Arcade) very closely.

Suggesting it is scandlalous and unethical and paints us as paranoid and reactionary.

[Wolfsong27]

I bet the site's just crashed from so many people trying to visit it all at once. It can only do so much you know.
I highly doubt EA or BioWare would do something like that.
If so, why not just take the whole forums offline?
It just doesn't make sense.

[ericjdev]

Who's modding right now cause someone needs to shut this mess down.

[Heather Cline]

The Child's Play Retake ME3 site does not load and is not working. Not sure if it is a server problem or if it was forcibly shut down. All I know is it doesn't work.

[KingKhan03]

Wow wont open for me, this would be a disaster.

[DuneMuadDib]

It's very disappointing that this result has occurred. I wish that both sides of the issue were fairly reported on, but so much of the media coverage doesn't seem to be grasping what both sides are saying. I genuinely hope that hate mail was not sent to the charity, that just makes me feel sick to think about.

Maybe it's just me and I have a biased view, but does it seem like those who oppose Retake display more hostility than Retake does?

[Vikali]

This is how rumors are spread. Have you seen the people who openly attack the charity on the forums? I wouldn't be surprised if some of the folks of like minds like that took it upon themselves to be jerks.

DuneMuadDib wrote...

It's very disappointing that this result has occurred. I wish that both sides of the issue were fairly reported on, but so much of the media coverage doesn't seem to be grasping what both sides are saying. I genuinely hope that hate mail was not sent to the charity, that just makes me feel sick to think about.

Maybe it's just me and I have a biased view, but does it seem like those who oppose Retake display more hostility than Retake does?

 

Don't bring in that bias. I donated a huge chunk of money straight from my own wallet and I don't associate with Retake.

Modifié par Vikali, 23 mars 2012 - 12:30 .

[MrPuschel]

Of course not. Stop posting such a crap.

[spacefiddle]

sistersafetypin wrote...

I think someone else should simply start a new drive. It doesn't make sense to willfully stop a charity drive just because you don't agree with why people are giving. At the end of the day, children were benefiting.

The sad truth is one of PA's employees, I forget his name, the fellow who stewards CP, has been a tool since the beginning.

I saw how the drive started: you know what, people say we're just being negative and complaining, so what the hell, we're all here: let's do something positive while we're all wired up about something!  And it might as well be something game-related!

That's all there was to it.

But watching whatisname's twitter from the start, he was one of the most vitriolic, bile-spewing trolls to the Retakers from the moment he heard about it.

SOMEONE must have finally pointed out the inherent boneheadedness of constantly insulting people donating thousands of dollars to his charity, though, 'coz he finally twittered some backhanded "oh, huh. well at least some good's coming out of it," and his twitter buddies continued to spew bile and vomit.  I mean, seriously, not even like they were arguing, "Well, I believe this is an important issue..."

Nah, it was more like "wish those whiny ---wits would stfu already."  IGN-kinda stuff.

I don't see any BW or EA hand here.  The guy's a schmuck, he's acted like a schmuck, he's been unprofessional as the face of a charity, and rude and derisive of the many thousands of gamers who believe in this effort, and gave to his charity.  Screw 'im.  There are fortunately other ways to get money to people who need it.

St. Jude's Children's Hospital is a good example.  Heck, Blizzard works with them for charity auctions, so you can even claim a game relation there if you want.

Bioware and EA have nothing to do with this.  Sometimes a nimrod is just a nimrod.

Modifié par spacefiddle, 23 mars 2012 - 12:31 .

[Garathe]

Attacking Bioware/EA for the charity being ending early isn't constructive at all. We don't know that they had a direct influence in it closing, Much like everything that has been going on from the ending of ME3 to what is happening now, it's all speculation. Saying it was Bioware/EA without any kind of proof and insulting them is just going to cause problems and possibly get bans handed out for it. I agree that it sucks the charity is ending, but we just need to stay constructive in our efforts to be heard. So lets just move on and continue to Hold the Line!

[Jomino]

Pages are not loading, the conspiracy begins D:

[Reptilian Rob]

It has been confirmed in the official thread that a rep from Child's Play has shut down the donation due to vocal outcry of it being associated with a movement.

While this is sad, the money did go to help a lot of kids so it was worth it.

Keep the line held.

Modifié par Reptilian Rob, 23 mars 2012 - 12:30 .