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[Evil_medved]

I won't be surprised.

[Aesieru]

Aesieru wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

progammler wrote...

ericjdev wrote...

There is absolutely no evidence to support that EA or Bioware had anything to do with this. Throwing around baseless accusations like that is disgusting. That's not holding the line, it's crossing it.

this.

This right here is why a lot of you people get banned and thread lockedl. Bioware/EA are NOT evil kitten killing companies. STOP throwing aroudn baselss accusations. You just make yourselves out to be the fools.

Make me sick.

You do realize that the reason people assume EA did it is because they've destroyed a lot of good game developer companies.

Westwood being just the first.

They even killed their own Dead Space brand's primary designers.

They've done a lot of BAD.

[Dridengx]

Priss Blackburne wrote...

No Charity wants to be linked to anything that would be considered a controversy. I for one am kind of happy, it was nice at beginning but this is just getting kinda uglier as time goes on so I think it's for the best.

[Vikali]

Reign762 wrote...

spacefiddle wrote...

Fame-KIllz wrote...

They say they requested that we stop donating to them as a group as they have received so much hate mail which is quite frankly astounding. Who sends hate mail to charity?

You know, this makes me angry.

Hey Doctor Ray!  Maybe next time you ask for us not to provide "negative criticism," maybe you can ask your SUPPORTERS not to send hate mail to charity?

I don't even have words.

That's why its a Public Relations situation.  They need to make us look like the only one's who are capable of hating and causing disruption.  Yet the so called Ending Supporters which are a true vocal minority managed to take money away from a charity for a good cause over an ending ... go figure.

I supporrt expanding the current endings and donated over $500. Don't you dare accuse me of taking away money from a charity.

[ericjdev]

Reign762 wrote...

spacefiddle wrote...

Fame-KIllz wrote...

They say they requested that we stop donating to them as a group as they have received so much hate mail which is quite frankly astounding. Who sends hate mail to charity?

You know, this makes me angry.

Hey Doctor Ray!  Maybe next time you ask for us not to provide "negative criticism," maybe you can ask your SUPPORTERS not to send hate mail to charity?

I don't even have words.

That's why its a Public Relations situation.  They need to make us look like the only one's who are capable of hating and causing disruption.  Yet the so called Ending Supporters which are a true vocal minority managed to take money away from a charity for a good cause over an ending ... go figure.

Threads like this prove we are more capable of hating and causing destruction, we are shooting ourselves in the foot.

[Fame-KIllz]

Zoedoll wrote...

Fame-KIllz wrote...

They say they requested that we stop donating to them as a group as they have received so much hate mail which is quite frankly astounding. Who sends hate mail to charity?

Disgusting people, that's who. Nothing in this whole saga of fail has made me feel angry until the notion of sending hate mail to a charity that benefits kids over the end of a game. And they say we're uncivil.

Agreed, I feel the same way. They're gonna send hate mail to a charity because we, as fans, channelled the negative into a positive and raised $80k for charity? It's quite simply absurd.

[Phaedros]

Ah found it from my home page:

http://social.biowar...19/231#10484097

[recentio]

AdmiralJacket wrote...

... They took down a charity? Is that possible?

That could be the most dastardly thing I've ever heard of.
"FIRST WE TAKE AWAY THE CHILDREN'S MONEY, THEN WE BLOW UP THE WORLD!"

I agree. How utterly disgusting to attack a charity just because you disagree with some people who are making donations to it.

[DentedHalo]

i dont think its fair to say Bioware or EA had anything to do with this but it is possibly the most disgusting thing ive ever heard none the less... i dont care if you think we are wrong about the ending but sending hate mail to a childrens charity is utterly repugnant.

[HenchxNarf]

Dridengx wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

No Charity wants to be linked to anything that would be considered a controversy. I for one am kind of happy, it was nice at beginning but this is just getting kinda uglier as time goes on so I think it's for the best.

If you think about it, it was never really nice. It was never about the kids, it was about a group of people complaining about a video game and waving around money trying to, in short, bully a company into complying.

Charity is about the act itself, it's because you want to do it or you feel compelled to do it. Not because you want to do it as leverage to make someone/something do something you want them to do.

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

Nobrandminda wrote...

In the thread on the subject, the OP said that he put a cap on it at the request of Child's Play because people thought that the organization was openly supporting the Retake Mass Effect movement:

http://social.biowar...5/index/9845819

QUOTING 'DIS

[Bebuse]

I'm going to wait and hear the actual story before making a proper comment. But there is no way on earth EA or Bioware are behind this, I believe it would literally be the end of their company if anything got out.

[Mesmurae]

This doesn't surprise me at all. Bioware is already locking threads that Retake Mass Effect has been using for information.

I'm starting to care less about them fixing the ending to Mass Effect, and instead I feel like giving up on them as a whole. Other developers are clearly willing to work harder for my money.

[snajones]

Phaedros wrote...

I was going to post a link to the main Retake Charity thread where there was a quote of what the Childs Play people said but.. I can't find it.. was there a while ago I posted in it.

Strange days we're living in.

It is still there -
http://social.biowar...dex/9845819/225

Hold the line!

[Asclepus]

antony1197 wrote...

Look regardless of your opinion of bioware/EA, they are not that stupid there is no way in hell they would ever go that far and thats saying something

Let me see if I can put this a diffferrentt way without offending the majority of people here. Bioware and it's management is scared. They are angry. What they thought was going to be the best received game of all time hasn't done it. Sales are down, negative pressure is up from the top down. I am not saying that they shut down the charity to deny us an ally, but scared and frightened people do irrational things. Somthing could have been said through back channels.

What I am saying is that it should be looked at, notshouted from the clifftops. If they did it, then they massively screwed up and it gives us more leverage, If they didn't, no skin off our nose, but at least we considered the possibility. It's simply convenient that Child's Play cut it off, whether planned or nopt. I never once heard anything  about reaching some arbitrary limit here. I never believe in concidences, and that is what I am saying.

[VigilancePress]

NightHawkIL wrote...

The drive was set at an $80,000 goal. That goal was reached, so the drive completed and the page was closed. No conspiracy.

Edit- Okay, just read the official announcement- removing the speculative stuff

I'm happy we could help when we did, and while we did, because it made me feel better after the gut-punch of an ending the game offered me. But it's time to move on from the charity before we hurt their cause trying to promote our own. If they don't want the connection, then it's time to stop.

We need to resume focusing on the real drive- to use our voices (in a polite and civil way) to ask for a new, better ending to the franchise we've grown to love so much.

Modifié par VigilancePress, 23 mars 2012 - 12:41 .

[nevar00]

It's possible. Considering game corporations have pressured websites to fire journalists who give their games bad reviews before, we already know there is an incredibly dark underside of the gaming industry that is kept hidden from us thanks to these corporations having control of the media (hell just look at the response to the angry fans for proof). And while we've been lied to and whatnot in the past... I think this is really stretching it. I highly doubt EA/Bioware had anything to do with it.

I still think this is incredibly ridiculous that a charity for little kids would shut down something that made them $80,000 in little over a week and was still going strong if they truly cared about the kids over potentially looking bad from a few whiny folks, though.

I understand they want to avoid bad PR but Jesus, it's not like we're representing the KKK here.

[Xenite]

ericjdev wrote...

There is absolutely no evidence to support that EA or Bioware had anything to do with this. Throwing around baseless accusations like that is disgusting. That's not holding the line, it's crossing it.

To be honest I don't think EA would be that stupid, that's a PR nightmare. They already got caught a few months back brow beating a reviewer about battlefield 3.

[nrcrane]

Before accusations are made it would be best to have at least some evidence to support it. Otherwise it just makes everyone look bad.

[Vikali]

Mesmurae wrote...

This doesn't surprise me at all. Bioware is already locking threads that Retake Mass Effect has been using for information.

I'm starting to care less about them fixing the ending to Mass Effect, and instead I feel like giving up on them as a whole. Other developers are clearly willing to work harder for my money.

If you believe this horse ****, you're better off just leaving them at the door. and I'm sure Retake doesn't want people who spread and believe outright lies like this.

[Aesieru]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

No Charity wants to be linked to anything that would be considered a controversy. I for one am kind of happy, it was nice at beginning but this is just getting kinda uglier as time goes on so I think it's for the best.

If you think about it, it was never really nice. It was never about the kids, it was about a group of people complaining about a video game and waving around money trying to, in short, bully a company into complying.

Charity is about the act itself, it's because you want to do it or you feel compelled to do it. Not because you want to do it as leverage to make someone/something do something you want them to do.

This is ONE VIEW, but not really accurate in any regard.

[randalbattalis]

Mighty_BOB_cnc wrote...

Nobrandminda wrote...

In the thread on the subject, the OP said that he put a cap on it at the request of Child's Play because people thought that the organization was openly supporting the Retake Mass Effect movement:

http://social.biowar...5/index/9845819

QUOTING 'DIS

Again Penny Arcade does not want to support this movement so they told them to shut it down. It's not hard to grasp but this doesn't make it any more acceptable.

PA has been openly hostile to this whole thing from the beginning likely because they do not want to ruin their relationship with Bioware since they get paid a lot of money to do comics for them.

[Pathero]

Reign762 wrote...

spacefiddle wrote...

Fame-KIllz wrote...

They say they requested that we stop donating to them as a group as they have received so much hate mail which is quite frankly astounding. Who sends hate mail to charity?

You know, this makes me angry.

Hey Doctor Ray!  Maybe next time you ask for us not to provide "negative criticism," maybe you can ask your SUPPORTERS not to send hate mail to charity?

I don't even have words.

That's why its a Public Relations situation.  They need to make us look like the only one's who are capable of hating and causing disruption.  Yet the so called Ending Supporters which are a true vocal minority managed to take money away from a charity for a good cause over an ending ... go figure.

Thats some Fox News worthy interpretations there.  From the OFFICIAL THREAD:
" I have been in contact with a manager at Child's Play.  First, he wanted to stress how grateful they were for our efforts here, and the huge impact it will have in helping the charity. However, he pointed out that several sources are incorrectly assuming a link between the charity and the petition, or outright support of the petition by the charity.  This has been a source of difficulty for them, and it has been requested that we wind this effort down.  Again, I want to stress that the charity is not unhappy with our work, they are exceptionally pleased with what we have accomplished "

Not people who support the ending, not EA, not bioware.  'Sources'  this could be anyone from (most likely) Mainstream News to Kotaku.  Your baseless accusations are just that: BASELESS. 

[Thorn Harvestar]

Sure is misleading thread titles in here

[HenchxNarf]

Aesieru wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

No Charity wants to be linked to anything that would be considered a controversy. I for one am kind of happy, it was nice at beginning but this is just getting kinda uglier as time goes on so I think it's for the best.

If you think about it, it was never really nice. It was never about the kids, it was about a group of people complaining about a video game and waving around money trying to, in short, bully a company into complying.

Charity is about the act itself, it's because you want to do it or you feel compelled to do it. Not because you want to do it as leverage to make someone/something do something you want them to do.

This is ONE VIEW, but not really accurate in any regard.

Actually there are quite a few people who believe this. And it is accurate.