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[StarcloudSWG]

You're welcome. In amongst the rapidly scrolling forums, there are a few gems of posts. My goal with this thread was actually a little selfish; I wanted a way to track all of them without having to hunt through page after page of reactions.

Hopefullly other people will also find it useful and will suggest threads of similar quality when they come up.

Personally, after my second playthrough to follow up on the 'hint' that the iPad app gives you a post game mail, and finding out that it doesn't, I'm feeling more than a little disenchanted with ME 3 and Bioware.

[Doug M]

Great list of links! I couldn't find any links of my own that aren't already included in your list. Excellent job. This list should also be sent over to the Constructive Feedback & Suggestions thread stickied at the top.

[Robhuzz]

Tovanus wrote...

Maybe the best one I've read:

http://www.shamusyou...edtale/?p=15395

This is an awesome read. I love it how he calls it 'The ending-o-tron 3000 TM'

[StarcloudSWG]

It is unfortunate that the forum's scrolling so fast. Then again, that tells you exactly how ticked off people are about Bioware's failure to provide a proper ending.

People are certainly talking about it, Mr. Hudson. Pity they don't have much to say that's good.

[Doug M]

Just finished reading some of those links. Wow! There are some smart Mass Effect fans out there! I really hope this all gets back to BioWare and convinces them to change the ending.

[_NF_Von_Lipwig]

I'll definitely give this a read.

Also, kudos for creating such a repository. Good to have it all in one thread for easy reference.

[StarcloudSWG]

Thanks. Pushing this to the top again, hopefully to get people to see it more. I've added Shamus Young's Escapist article this time. While it's spoiler free, it makes some very concise points about the ending.

[SoulWeaver]

I would just like to recommed reading  Why you enjoy art and the one problem with Mass Effect 3 (it's already on the OP's list). It's the best I've read so far, although it's somewhat long.

[StarcloudSWG]

Pushing it to the top again; All these links deserve to be seen and read.

[GuardianAngel470]

SoulWeaver wrote...

I would just like to recommed reading  Why you enjoy art and the one problem with Mass Effect 3 (it's already on the OP's list). It's the best I've read so far, although it's somewhat long.

Yeah that one was pretty good and it gave a more detailed explanation for things I was feeling and had expressed. One that was more thoroughly explained from the art perspective.

[Legbiter]

Did I just blow up the galaxy? You know, small niggling details like that.

[Captain Victory]

Ser Bump of Bumpington.

[StarcloudSWG]

The ending really is that bad. One thing I noticed on the last playthrough was that ONLY the Synthesis ending was explicitly told to destroy the Mass Relays, but in all *three* endings, they blow up. This is another sign of a very rushed production process and another reason that Bioware had better fix the ending.

It would also be nice if they actually varied the endings to give us the great variation that they promised. As it stands, it boils down to "Reapers stop, Relays blow up, Normandy gets stranded. Everyone suffers terribly."

[Penitent]

http://social.biowar.../index/10066818

[Kumekerion]

This article gives meaning and purpose to our frustration about the endings and why they made so many of us feel sick.
http://www.themetaga...oblem-with.html

[StarcloudSWG]

It's one of the many links I have listed. I certainly hope people will read through that article, and the others.

[StarcloudSWG]

On the endings being written in isolation from the rest of the game, the signs are there that it's possible.

Everything after the 'platform rising in a beam of light' feels dramatically different in tone, theme, and pacing from the confrontation with the Illusive Man. It's entirely possible that everything had been scripted up to that point and cinematic work done, and then everything came to a halt while Casey Hudson and Mac Walters tried to hash out the ending between them.

Honestly, the ending should have been mostly scripted when work on Mass Effect started, and kept in mind throughout Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3; they did not do it that way, and that led to the disastrous scramble to reach this apparently unfinished ending with its seven minor variations.

[StarcloudSWG]

On the promise that the endings would be 'bittersweet', apparently Casey Hudson has no sense of taste for anything that's not bitter.

All the endings, even the 'good' Control one, leave the Mass Relay network in ruins, devastating galactic civilization. The crew is, unexplainedly, marooned on a planet far from Earth for no reason, which includes Shepard's LI. (Unless the LI was the Virmire Survivor and turned into a War Asset instead of coming along)

Synthesis and Control endings both have Shepard commiting *suicide*, an unacceptable fate for a true hero, and it's still uncertain whether Shepard died even in the 'best' Destroy variation.

All the major planets are devastated. Quarians and Turians are going to take decades to hundreds of years to get home, assuming that their ships even last that long, and assuming that they travel together to Palavan with any surviving Quarian Liveships. The Volus fleet is just plain doomed.

All in all, I fail to see how this nihilist arthouse ending matches the rest of the Mass Effect series.

[StarcloudSWG]

I certainly hope Bioware will look at the criticism leveled by the authors of the linked threads and articles, and address those issues to produce a proper, complete ending. Ideally one that also unites Shepard with his love interest should Shepard survive the ending.

[hanshotfirs]

nicely done!

[StarcloudSWG]

I'd particularly like it if they added a *fourth* ending, that specifically kills the Reapers and only the Reapers, thereby rejecting the 'Catalyst AI' and its reasoning, premises, and influence.

[Tovanus]

Two other very good articles by the same guy who did the "ending deconstruction" article. Both are also very good reads (though much shorter).

http://www.escapistm...ing-Controversy - A discussion of what makes a good ending, and how ME 3 abandoned all three requirements.

http://www.shamusyou...edtale/?p=15443 - Very short article of him addressing the problems with Bioware's approach that got them in this mess.

[jedsithor]

Mass Effect 3 And The Rainbow Beam Of Doom

[CrasVox]

great stuff OP. gotta keep this at the top.

[StarcloudSWG]

I prefer, and have linked to, The Corkonian's blog about artistic integrity or consumer product. The "Rainbow beam" post reiterates just about all of the arguments that the other ones do. And the Shamus Young piece is already linked, but it's definitely worth reading.